Batman vs. Link

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Okay, how is the bow indestructable. Now you're just being silly.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Batman's high end explosive batarangs can certainly hurt Link.

But that's about it.

I don't know who to call as having the speed edge.

Anyway...I think its some OCD on my part, but threads like this that are a complete clash of styles/genres just make me want to barf. I mean, Batman doesn't even have a sword. 😬

The only "diamond" it ever shattered was the shadow jewel on the goron. For all we know, it was made of hollow glass.

Well, Batman's batarangs have hurt General Eiling for example.

...And could probably snap a hundred year old bow string...

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
The only "diamond" it ever shattered was the shadow jewel on the goron. For all we know, it was made of hollow glass.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
...And could probably snap a hundred year old bow string...

Are you being intentionally dismissive for the sake of it?

What we know of the bow
A) it was owned by a previous link, making it hundreds of years old.
B) it slayed a demon.
The only demons that were killed by bow were the monsters inc. ripoff from SS, and majora. Neither of these bows had magical properties. Some gem stones break pretty easy. There is nothing to suggest this bow is anything more than well kept and accurate.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
What we know of the bow
A) it was owned by a previous link, making it hundreds of years old.
B) it slayed a demon.
The only demons that were killed by bow were the monsters inc. ripoff from SS, and majora. Neither of these bows had magical properties. Some gem stones break pretty easy. There is nothing to suggest this bow is anything more than well kept and accurate.

In game it proves that it can handle propelling arrows through giant gem stones, (try this with a real bow, tell me how easy it is to break any kind of stone with an arrow) and long distances with no loss in accuracy or velocity.

And you think this is just an easily breakable item, despite it lasting hundreds of years with no wear and enduring tons and tons of tension from use?

Whatever, man haermm

Except it wasn't used for a hundred years and was treated as a treasure by thr gorons. They refer to it many times as their treasure and probably took good care of it. By goron(super strength) standards, it's just a bow. But I don't think the string can take a supersharp exploding baterang.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Except it wasn't used for a hundred years and was treated as a treasure by thr gorons. They refer to it many times as their treasure and probably took good care of it. By goron(super strength) standards, it's just a bow. But I don't think the string can take a supersharp exploding baterang.

Nothing you've just said dismisses that the bow is very clearly durable, Bats doesn't have the strength to destroy it, and the idea he has anything resembling a chance in this thread is pure fantasy. 😐

On I've indulged too long and too gently.

1. Batman cannot kill Link, or KO Link. He simply cannot. Even with the lava, if he tries, he dies.
2. Batman would not if he could. He has a rule. I've let this slide because I didn't think anyone here was as thick as they apparently are. Batman has a rule, the first thing he does is not going to be 'try to dump the guy in green in laval.
3. New 52 Batman. All of those feats I've just been rolling with. A) Not enough, Batman is outstatted in every way. B) Old feats, that Batman no longer has access to as of new 52. 😄!

Link is stronger, more durable, has better reaction time, better combat speed, an indestructible shield and a sword swing Batman can do **** all about. Link wins, without a scratch on him, 100/100 times.

The arguments against Link have been

"Maybe he'll slip on marbles, directly into the lava he has no reason to be near. AND Link will stay there for no reason other than to be nice."

"Maybe Batman can throw him into the lava, if he somehow doesn't die 0.2 seconds into the fight from supersonic arrow to the dome."

"Maybe Batman can throw him into the lava, if he somehow doesn't die 0.2 seconds into the fight from supersonic arrow to the dome. AND he doesn't get killed by Link's sword. AND Link doesn't accidentally crush him to death."

"Maybe Batman can throw him into the lava, if he somehow doesn't die 0.2 seconds into the fight from supersonic arrow to the dome. AND he doesn't get killed by Link's sword. AND Link doesn't accidentally crush him to death. AND Link doesn't drag Batman along into the lava and hold him under until nothing is left but an oily, flaming soup, before leaving with some burns."

So on and so forth. Batman has to cross the lava just to get to Link, who could easily drop him in right then.

There is simply put, no ****ing way Link is losing this, and I'm done trying to convince you otherwise, since if you can't see that Batman would lose in the face of a class 100 character with durability beyond Batman's ability to deal with, quicker reflexes and combat speed, and just as many gizmoes as Batman has, with no compunctions about killing, then I can't help you, and I'm done wasting my time trying to.

Out.

I said link would win most of the time. Yeesh.

I thought the no kill rule was nullified in versus threads?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I said link would win most of the time. Yeesh.

I thought the no kill rule was nullified in versus threads?

Death counts as a KO imo. Plus you were the one arguing that lava doesn't actually kill Link, just KO him a few pages ago. 😉

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Neph suggest Batman beats Link. Calls me a fanboy in same thread. Righto.

Usually. Not in this case. Link has super human combat speed, and, wait, here's the best part, he doesn't need to tense his muscles. If Link throws a punch, and Batman attempts to counter it by throwing him, and Link doesn't react to him in any way, do you know what happens?

If Link simply follows through with his punch as he would had BAtman not grabbed his arm, Batman ends up crushed against Link's side with his bones reduced to splinters. 😐

Scan of Batman throwing a high end Solomon Grundy? How about even a low one?

WW can be hurt by bullets because she has retarded rules governing her durability. 😐 Not exactly concerned by that example.

Link waves his shield, lotta good that did.

You quite done?

Well I can already see that this is going to be a fruitful conversation. Also there should be an s after 'suggest'. Tut tut, grammar SP. Either way, would you really deny being a fanboy? Really? After all the lengths you've gone to just to talk up Link? I know I'm not a fanboy of Batman, I don't even collect the comics. If thats what you were implying. Moving on.....

Other than the lightning that I'm not going to touch, your only 'evidence' of Link having superhuman speed is gameplay animations, which hahahahaha sorry excuse me while I chuckle.

Why would that happen? Links ribs (wtf?) don't have enough momentum or force to affect Batman, especially since that sort of throw is usually done after they've stopped moving. Plus Batman doesn't need to actually engage Link to throw him, he could easily take him by surprise or leap out from the shadows.

Like:

If Batman can throw WW around, he can throw Link. Or just use the Batkick, punt him over the ledge. Don't make he post him drawing blood from Darkseid. Really, it should be amazingly easy for him to get Link over the edge. Links strength won't help him avoid being tossed around.

I only mentioned Grundy because he's a member of Batmans rogues whose stronger than Link. I don't know if he's actually thrown him or not.

WW's only weak to piercing attacks. Which Batmans attack wasn't. It's completely valid. And anyway, Batman has flashbangs etc that can do just as good a job of ****ing Link up without being in melee range.

😐 Well of course that will work. Like hell! Stop being ridiculous. You think all it would take is waving a dustbin lid around? Get real.

I'll be done when you're done fooling around and just admit that Batman spanks Link.

Could Batman maaaaybe kick his way to victory?

Do you even need to ask? I'm just assuming the Batkick is off the table because otherwise Link would be pulped in a nanosecond.

Death counts as a KO imo. Plus you were the one arguing that lava doesn't actually kill Link, just KO him a few pages ago.

Well I can already see that this is going to be a fruitful conversation. Also there should be an s after 'suggest'. Tut tut, grammar SP. Either way, would you really deny being a fanboy? Really? After all the lengths you've gone to just to talk up Link? I know I'm not a fanboy of Batman, I don't even collect the comics. If thats what you were implying. Moving on.....

This doesn't change that you calling me a fanboy in the same breath you defend Batman against Link is laughably ironic. 🙂

If Batman can throw WW around, he can throw Link. Or just use the Batkick, punt him over the ledge. Don't make he post him drawing blood from Darkseid. Really, it should be amazingly easy for him to get Link over the edge. Links strength won't help him avoid being tossed around.

I only mentioned Grundy because he's a member of Batmans rogues whose stronger than Link. I don't know if he's actually thrown him or not.

Drawing blood from Darkseid, lol. Heylook, Neph can use two, old, pieces of bad writing, aka PIS, to try to draw a conclusion no one sane would ever try to draw, purely for the sake of trolling. Surprising.

The Grundy that Batman fights is not stronger than Link, nor does Batman toss him around.

Originally posted by Yamcha
Could Batman maaaaybe kick his way to victory?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Do you even need to ask? I'm just assuming the Batkick is off the table because otherwise Link would be pulped in a nanosecond.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I never changed this stance, Batman however doesn't know that. I also never agreed it would KO him quickly enough to matter, or that Batman had any chance of knocking Link in.

It was my understanding that it was the unwritten rule that combatants start with basic knowledge of each other in these fight.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I never denied being a Link fanboy. I kind of spend time on a forum for arguing which fictional character beats up the other, at that point, regardless of what anyone says, they are a fanboy.

This doesn't change that you calling me a fanboy in the same breath you defend Batman against Link is laughably ironic. 🙂

I don't see how. Me championing Batman has nothing to do with my preferences and everything to do with my honest belief in his victory. However....

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Are you even aware what issue you're citing here? Pretty certain that is not new 52 Batman.

Drawing blood from Darkseid, lol. Heylook, Neph can use two, old, pieces of bad writing, aka PIS, to try to draw a conclusion no one sane would ever try to draw, purely for the sake of trolling. Surprising.

The Grundy that Batman fights is not stronger than Link, nor does Batman toss him around.

... If we really are only doing new 52 Batman then I doubt he has the feats to win, since he's only been around a single year. Though I personally still think Batman could take Link, theres too little content and I'm unfamiliar with it so there wouldn't be much of a case.

That was a joke. I'm well aware of the ridiculousness of the feat and wouldn't seriously use it. Though Batman could still easily kick him into the lava.

I never said he did.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Lolno. At best he just hits Link without damage, at worst he loses the foot or leg. He isn't strong enough to budge Link's diaphram. 😐

Pretty sure strength has nothing to do with not getting your ass knocked over. He's not going to grip the floor with his toes of something. Look at the above picture, sure Bats broke his hand trying to punch Diana, but he could still kick her backwards. If Link doesn't weigh much, then he gets his ass kicked backwards. Thats physics. A diamond isn't going to resist you kicking it just cuz its really tough.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Trolling confirmed, looks like you [b]are done. [/B]

Butthurt detected.

It was my understanding that it was the unwritten rule that combatants start with basic knowledge of each other in these fight.

I don't see how. Me championing Batman has nothing to do with my preferences and everything to do with my honest belief in his victory. However....

... If we really are only doing new 52 Batman then I doubt he has the feats to win, since he's only been around a single year. Though I personally still think Batman could take Link, theres too little content and I'm unfamiliar with it so there wouldn't be much of a case.

Pretty sure strength has nothing to do with not getting your ass knocked over. He's not going to grip the floor with his toes of something. Look at the above picture, sure Bats broke his hand trying to punch Diana, but he could still kick her backwards.

So, after being impaled by an arrow and pinned to the statue, then trying to cross the lava trench and getting dropped in when Link cuts his line, and crawling out of the lava, Batman attempts to kick Link into the lava which is now behind himself and infront of Link, loses his leg, and then, I guess roundhouse headbutts Link?

The problem here isn't just if Batman kicks Wonder Woman that for once in in a comic book physics wakes up and she moves back a bit, it's that 99% of the time, physics is asleep when things like Wonder Woman and Superman are hanging out, and there's no real excuse for them even being hit by him. New 52 actually has Batman confirming Wonder Woman has better combat speed than Superman, how likely is Batman to kick a Superman who doesn't want to be kicked, if he's not in some way weakened or otherwise disabled?

Wonder Woman also has the weirdest set of rules governing her physical stats I can recall in a comicbook character. Do you think TEH BATKICK could knock the wind out of Superman, Diana's peer in fisticuffs? How about Kratos, who is not Superman's peer? How about Spider-Man, who has to roll with the punches of human criminals he apprehends so that they do not break their own arms?

At the end of the day, Bats is peak human, DC peak human, but peak human, and he does have low showings comparable to his high showings, but lowballing a peak human against a mid meta with the same 'super power' Batman uses is kind of unnecessary.

Butthurt detected.

I'll admit to being frustrated, largely because I'm trying to give you the benefit of a doubt but I feel like I'm wasting my time in doing so.

I feel the same the exact same way. I've tried to engage in this debate but you've been nothing but needlessly dismissive and haughty. I've made my case, I don't need to prove anything by continuing to waste my time talking to someone who obviously isn't listening.

My vote is on Batman.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I feel the same the exact same way. I've tried to engage in this debate but you've been nothing but needlessly dismissive and haughty. I've made my case, I don't need to prove anything by continuing to waste my time talking to someone who obviously isn't listening.

Originally posted by Impediment
My vote is on Batman.