Voldemort vs. Sauron

Originally posted by quanchi112
thousands>>several.

Voldemort's wand wasn't his so there is context to it. Gandalf just lost and hid. Torches beat Nazgul.

Abc logic. Saruman crushed Gandalf in unde pr a few minutes.

The dwarf went down there to fight whereas Gandalf wanted them to flee.

Relevance being? Still not comparable to destroying a massive tower with a single attack

He was still capable of attacking with it, so yeah

No, Abc logic would be claiming Saruman could beat a Balrog because he beat Gandalf. Saruman can generate greater energy than Gandalf, who could defeat a Balrog magically. If Saruman couldn't generate more energy than a Balrog, he'd have been crushed immediately. This is not the case

Gandalf was keeping two dwarves from falling down a mountain at the time.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Relevance being? Still not comparable to destroying a massive tower with a single attack

He was still capable of attacking with it, so yeah

No, Abc logic would be claiming Saruman could beat a Balrog because he beat Gandalf. Saruman can generate greater energy than Gandalf, who could defeat a Balrog magically. If Saruman couldn't generate more energy than a Balrog, he'd have been crushed immediately. This is not the case

Gandalf was keeping two dwarves from falling down a mountain at the time.

Voldemort destroyed a shield which took thousands of blasts. 🙂

Gandalf was beaten by Saruman. He was also beaten by the same guy a torch owned.

Gandalf hid like a coward.

Lotr is an inferior verse to Potter. Obviously.

Gandalf can't even save himself much less anyone else.

Originally posted by Supra
Gandalf can't even save himself much less anyone else.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He is one massively pathetic wizard who passes the buck and frequently abandons his friends on major quests.

He beat the Balrog and lost all credibility after that because he started doing Sauron bidding.

Originally posted by Supra
He beat the Balrog and lost all credibility after that because he started doing Sauron bidding.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
He also was defeated along with his greatest feat.

😂

Hence why he was worthless in the rest of the films and was running around helping Sauron.

Are you two done being butt-buddies?

Originally posted by Firefly218
Are you two done being butt-buddies?

Originally posted by Firefly218
Are you two done being butt-buddies?

Silent, Epidural and both Steath's get the pass on butt buddies, sure jump on the /fail train of bandwagoneers. Ride that train to buttville with them.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Rob and Silent...I don't think so.

lamo

Originally posted by Supra
Silent, Epidural and both Steath's get the pass on butt buddies, sure jump on the /fail train of bandwagoneers. Ride that train to buttville with them.

How can three people "both" do something?

DO YOU EVEN GRAMMAR BRO?

Also, your pom-poms for Khanchi are utterly adorable. Do they come in any masculine colors?

Originally posted by Firefly218
lamo

Originally posted by Firefly218
lamo

You a Texan don't succumb to the scum on the earth of the "stealth masters."

Lone Star State Must Rise Above.

Originally posted by Supra
Silent, Epidural and both Steath's get the pass on butt buddies, sure jump on the /fail train of bandwagoneers. Ride that train to buttville with them.

I'm just joking innocent. You need to calm down bro

Originally posted by Supra

Lone Star State Must Rise Above.

Respect

Originally posted by Firefly218
I'm just joking innocent. You need to calm down bro

Keep Austin Weird🙂

So this is basically what your argument boils down to? Really? That's pathetic...

Originally posted by quanchi112
If the sword can cut his fingers off why can't something or equal or greater force penetrate Sauron. Sauron dies due to the ring being separated but this isn't proof this is the only way to kill him. If your claim is to that effect then you need to prove it.

Because nothing in Voldemort's arsenal is of equal or greater force than Narsil was, even when broken. Witness it's feats against the incorporeal Dead of Dunharrow.

After the Ring was made, it was indeed the sole way he could be brought down. The Necromancer, who does not posess the Ring would be more succeptible to damage, but he cannot be terminated as the link is still there.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It didn't provide him with invulnerability. We see his attacks killing the men not him resisting any attacks. When Isuldor attacks his damages him with a broken sword thus proving he was not invulnerable.

You are talking about a weapon that bit into the weakest part of Sauron's armor, a weapon with a powerful enchant and made using the finest smithing craft in Numenor. Now prove Voldemort can achieve the same result, without knowledge of where to aim for.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You'd have to prove it since a broken sword had the power to damage him.

Bladewall of the Last Alliance. You'd have to be stupid to believe Sauron didn't receive any blows against so many warriors solo, especially given his sheer size.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You made a claim without proof. Awful debater. Honestly.

Are you cycling back into stupid arguments and name-calling again?

It was the sole way that actually worked? Even after Issildur got the Ring, Sauron was still alive and functioning. Barad-dur was still standing, the rest of Mordor remained intact, The Nine still function. And in both Hobbit movies, the Necromancer is Sauron, and in the War Of The Ring, Sauron is still at work. Kinda the premise of all the movies...

So yes, to defeat Sauron permanently, one must separate him from the Ring, then destroy it. it's the only way that actually worked once the Ring was made.

And another point of contention, Sauron is actually immortal even before the Ring was made, he could very easily outlast Voldemort, who, by any account is still a mortal man, and much more succeptible to physical, spiritual, and mental damage, despite his numerous horcruxes.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
So this is basically what your argument boils down to? Really? That's pathetic...

Because nothing in Voldemort's arsenal is of equal or greater force than Narsil was, even when broken. Witness it's feats against the incorporeal Dead of Dunharrow.

After the Ring was made, it was indeed the sole way he could be brought down. The Necromancer, who does not posess the Ring would be more succeptible to damage, but he cannot be terminated as the link is still there.

You are talking about a weapon that bit into the weakest part of Sauron's armor, a weapon with a powerful enchant and made using the finest smithing craft in Numenor. Now prove Voldemort can achieve the same result, without knowledge of where to aim for.

Bladewall of the Last Alliance. You'd have to be stupid to believe Sauron didn't receive any blows against so many warriors solo, especially given his sheer size.

Are you cycling back into stupid arguments and name-calling again?

It was the sole way that actually worked? Even after Issildur got the Ring, Sauron was still alive and functioning. Barad-dur was still standing, the rest of Mordor remained intact, The Nine still function. And in both Hobbit movies, the Necromancer is Sauron, and in the War Of The Ring, Sauron is still at work. Kinda the premise of all the movies...

So yes, to defeat Sauron permanently, one must separate him from the Ring, then destroy it. it's the only way that actually worked once the Ring was made.

And another point of contention, Sauron is actually immortal even before the Ring was made, he could very easily outlast Voldemort, who, by any account is still a mortal man, and much more succeptible to physical, spiritual, and mental damage, despite his numerous horcruxes.

To be permanently stopped just like the Horcruxes need to be destroyed to permanently stop Voldemort. In a versus battle you destroy the body you win.

Voldemort doesn't need to aim there. There is no proof the other parts of his body were immune to damage. None. You offer no proof and just long winded rants.

He did not receive any blows from anyone. He blew them back while they were in awe.

Sauron did not have a body. Voldemort existed as well and eventually got a new body. Not the same as Sauron who failed and did nothing.

Voldemort was immortal due to the Horcruxes. Sauron was not unkillable therefore his humiliation is even bigger.

Voldemort achieved immortality on his own.

Originally posted by Supra
So you never saw the Desolation of Smaug?

Wether or not he has seen it, I does not remove the burden of proof from Quan's shoulders.

Infact, here is a protip: If you can't prove a case, wether or not the opposition has seen the media in question, don't claim it.

Basically this means that if you can't explain your evidence to the opposition yourself, then it is illegitimate. A bit like how Quan ignores the video evidence of others all the time...