Voldemort vs. Sauron

Started by quanchi11230 pages

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Wether or not he has seen it, I does not remove the burden of proof from Quan's shoulders.

Infact, here is a protip: If you can't prove a case, wether or not the opposition has seen the media in question, don't claim it.

Basically this means that if you can't explain your evidence to the opposition yourself, then it is illegitimate. A bit like how Quan ignores the video evidence of others all the time...

What have I ignored ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is due to Aragorn's role as the King and the nature of the curse.

A curse originally put in place by non other than Isildur, BEFORE he even obtained Narsil. The same Isildur who took up the hiltshard of Narsil to sever the Ring from Sauron.

Originally posted by quanchi112
To be permanently stopped just like the Horcruxes need to be destroyed to permanently stop Voldemort. In a versus battle you destroy the body you win.

And yet everything else bounced off Sauron while he had the ring. The last Alliance bladewalls and spearwalls, plus who knows how much Elven and Numenorean archery.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort doesn't need to aim there. There is no proof the other parts of his body were immune to damage. None. You offer no proof and just long winded rants.

See above. You ignoring a battlefield is not going to make the fact that Sauron literally walked through the last Alliance, weapons and all, does not spontaneously mean it no longer counts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He did not receive any blows from anyone. He blew them back while they were in awe.

Bullshit without evidence. He blasted them back 4 or 5 times

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sauron did not have a body. Voldemort existed as well and eventually got a new body. Not the same as Sauron who failed and did nothing.

Voldy needed how many Hrocruxes again?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort was immortal due to the Horcruxes. Sauron was not unkillable therefore his humiliation is even bigger.

Incorrect. Sauron lost his physical form, but he exerted influence beyond that despite the Ring being in Eregion, 2 countries away.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort achieved immortality on his own.

Voldy used his own Horcruxes, and he still aged and he still died to a 3 person teenage gang. Sauron had armies of elves and men and the other free peoples thrown at him that literally did nothing til Narsil and Isildur came along. And even when incorporeal, he was owning armies.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What have I ignored ?

Anything you claim you can't see.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No one tried to. It was a concentrated attack.

Voldemort destroyed a shield which took thousands of blasts. 🙂

Gandalf was beaten by Saruman. He was also beaten by the same guy a torch owned.

Gandalf hid like a coward.

Lotr is an inferior verse to Potter. Obviously.

Thousands of blasts akin to a hand grenade in destructive power. It takes much more energy to reduce a massive skyscraper-esque structure made of rock to rubble. Sauron is still massively superior.

Saruman is just powerful. Ofc. But hey, I'm talking to a prepubescent autistic kid

No, he was keeping two dwarves from falling to their deaths and was trying to protect his friends from being killed, because Gandalf is competent, unlike most of the HP-verse

Any LoTR higher tier could solo every named character in the HP-verse combined

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

Quans not showing up. I think you got him 👆

Don't jinx anything

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Don't jinx anything

Too late.

Ah, but Trolls are afraid of Fire. And real men wear cloaks of fire!

I believe I am ready.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Quans not showing up. I think you got him 👆
Premature boasting. To be expected from my lessers.

Originally posted by quanchi112
To be expected from my lessers.

hysterical

You're right. I am 'lesser' of a troll than you

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Ah, but Trolls are afraid of Fire. And real men wear cloaks of fire!

I believe I am ready.

Flame shield 100%!

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
A curse originally put in place by non other than Isildur, BEFORE he even obtained Narsil. The same Isildur who took up the hiltshard of Narsil to sever the Ring from Sauron.

And yet everything else bounced off Sauron while he had the ring. The last Alliance bladewalls and spearwalls, plus who knows how much Elven and Numenorean archery.

See above. You ignoring a battlefield is not going to make the fact that Sauron literally walked through the last Alliance, weapons and all, does not spontaneously mean it no longer counts.

Bullshit without evidence. He blasted them back 4 or 5 times

Voldy needed how many Hrocruxes again?

Incorrect. Sauron lost his physical form, but he exerted influence beyond that despite the Ring being in Eregion, 2 countries away.

Voldy used his own Horcruxes, and he still aged and he still died to a 3 person teenage gang. Sauron had armies of elves and men and the other free peoples thrown at him that literally did nothing til Narsil and Isildur came along. And even when incorporeal, he was owning armies.

Anything you claim you can't see.

The curse is why Aragorn could interact with the ghosts. It had nothing to do with his power level. You're a dishonest poster.

Nothing else hit him. We see Sauron acting and people flying backwards. The one time we see someone attack him he dies. 😂

Quit making stuff up, momma's boy.

Sauron didn't walk through anything. He took out some warriors and then died. Sauron did not defeat anyone with magical power but instead men with swords. Weaker universe.

Point to the part of the video when they attacked him and struck his body.

Voldemort created a bunch to make himself harder to kill. Ingenious plan unlike Sauron's.

Voldemort also exerted influence without a body. Sauron was helpless and never recovered his ring. What a loser. He couldn't even get his body back.

Voldemort was immortal as per the movie. He would love forever. If you feel like all who opposed him were three teenagers then you never saw the films..

You have yet to make a legitimate case.

Just give up Quan. Darkstorm Zero has exposed your complete and utter stupidity.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Thousands of blasts akin to a hand grenade in destructive power. It takes much more energy to reduce a massive skyscraper-esque structure made of rock to rubble. Sauron is still massively superior.

Saruman is just powerful. Ofc. But hey, I'm talking to a prepubescent autistic kid

No, he was keeping two dwarves from falling to their deaths and was trying to protect his friends from being killed, because Gandalf is competent, unlike most of the HP-verse

Any LoTR higher tier could solo every named character in the HP-verse combined

Sauron had a concentrated energy blast. One blast seemed far more powerful than a hand grenade but you admitted a few blasts were impressive thus conceded your point.

Not really especially compared to Voldemort.

Failing to kill. Gandalf the Grey isn't that awesome.

Gandalf should have stepped away from the edge. He was stupid and was dragged downwards. He abandoned his dwarf friends as well during their quest multiple times.

You're harmless when you say something ridiculous.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Flame shield 100%!

Heh, I was actually playing around with different aura effects when I did these screencaps.

Originally posted by Firefly218
hysterical

You're right. I am 'lesser' of a troll than you

Lesser poster. You already conceded to me.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Just give up Quan. Darkstorm Zero has exposed your complete and utter stupidity.
He has lied and showed a complete lack of understanding surrounding Sauron's FOTR scene.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Heh, I was actually playing around with different aura effects when I did these screencaps.

It came out pretty good!

I need to make time for Skyrim.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Lesser poster. You already conceded to me.

I admit that I'm not very well-versed in Lord of the Rings movie mythology, as I have not read the books nor have I seen the movies in a couple of years.

And I honestly don't give a shit how good of a poster I am, nice try though.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sauron had a concentrated energy blast. One blast seemed far more powerful than a hand grenade but you admitted a few blasts were impressive thus conceded your point.

Not really especially compared to Voldemort.

Failing to kill. Gandalf the Grey isn't that awesome.

Gandalf should have stepped away from the edge. He was stupid and was dragged downwards. He abandoned his dwarf friends as well during their quest multiple times.

You're harmless when you say something ridiculous.

Yeah Sauron needed only a single (casual) attack to level it. Wizards would require thousands to come anywhere near that destruction (even then, they don't). Guess what's more impressive you ***?

Voldemort is a pussy, and no by sheer virtue of besting Gandalf Saruman can stomp Voldemort. Easily

Because Gandalf had things to do elsewhere. How the **** is that relevant you dipshit?

Originally posted by quanchi112
The curse is why Aragorn could interact with the ghosts. It had nothing to do with his power level. You're a dishonest poster.

I never even implied anything about Aragorn's power. You are functionally and deliberately stupid.

The power was in Narsil, which is the original point, something you can't seem to follow.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nothing else hit him. We see Sauron acting and people flying backwards. The one time we see someone attack him he dies. 😂

Quit making stuff up, momma's boy.

Sauron didn't walk through anything. He took out some warriors and then died. Sauron did not defeat anyone with magical power but instead men with swords. Weaker universe.

You REALLY wanna go there? Really? Ok then, prove that nothing else did hit him throughout that exchange, ya know, like Khan's 100% perfect accuracy. Your speculating he was never hit. And lol at Elves possessing no magic or skills.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Point to the part of the video when they attacked him and struck his body.

Voldemort created a bunch to make himself harder to kill. Ingenious plan unlike Sauron's.

Sauron was not killed though, and lived for thousands of years after the Ring was lost. Voldy couldn't outlast a child's development years before all his Horcrux's were rendered useless.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort also exerted influence without a body. Sauron was helpless and never recovered his ring. What a loser. He couldn't even get his body back.

Voldemort was immortal as per the movie. He would love forever. If you feel like all who opposed him were three teenagers then you never saw the films..

You have yet to make a legitimate case.

No, he didn't. All his supposed influence was due to the Horcruxes and the Death Eaters.

Love forever? 😆

It was those 3 that defeated him permanently. Are you denying this? Also, while I'm no HP fan, my younger brother was, so believe me, I've seen the movies and read the books.

That's rich coming from someone who arbartrarily goes against the LOTR lore from the movies to downplay Sauron's invincibility. Not to mention Narsil decried as a "normal sword"... 🙄