Originally posted by quanchi112
How so ?
Logan having a couple instances where low superhuman threats pose a danger. Couple times having Class 10-20 characters knocking him out. Same with Class 100+ characters.
Then theres his regen going from only being able to heal things like slash wounds+, to being able to come back from being blown to pieces or from a drop of blood. IIRC it can sometimes go even beyond that.
Just bouncing around these levels, tad confusing.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Link is not stronger than Colossus, Thing, Ms. Marvel, Gladiator and so on. Wolverine has beaten people in straight up brawls stronger than Link yet he can't beat Link in a straight brawl even though he's more skilled and durable?Link takes his eyes off of Wolverine then he's dead. The guy snuck up on Tony Stark, stealth is no problem for him.
If you think Wolverine tanking Hulk level blows isn't an average for him then let's settle it. Show an instance of where he was downed by lesser force easily and I'll show two exapmles of him taking higher for each one. He debuted tanking Hulk punches. Class 100 punches are the norm, not Spider-Man level. Handbooks and Marvel supported bios give him the highest rating for durabilty yet you still think he's less durable on average?
How does he knock him out? He starts swinging at Wolverine then he loses an arm. Wolverine doesn't win because he can't be knocked out, he wins because he's better and has a superior powerset. He's a brick slayer.
Anyway, I'm not sure what Colossus' strength is, I know he's class 100+ and has done some cool shit, but Link is also class 100+ and could replicate the feats I've seen from Colossus, such as the submarine lift. The Thing has OHKO'd Wolverine, Gladiator would have to be a victim of comicbook jobbing, he's FTL, but I can't recall that fight ever happening.
More skilled, sure, but his combat speed is lower, so good luck to him. Wolverine's skeleton can't be destroyed by Link, the rest of him is a non-issue, and Link is strong enough to send him airborne with each strike. shrug Link has no reason to take his eyes off of Wolverine, and is already aware Wolverine is present, so he's not caught unaware.
And his skeleton is coated in adamantium, of course his durability rating is high.
Link swings at Wolverine and Wolverine avoids it or takes a tumble, losing an arm just cause is out because until Link tires his combat speed is better. This is a forum battle, it's not drawn out with one character fighting down to the other's level to make it look cooler.
Back to the question:
Link gets Wolverine on the ground and hacks at him with class 100+ strength for three days straight, do you feel Wolverine still counts as 'alive' at the end of that?
Originally posted by BloodRainLink was kod by Bulbins henchmen as well. This happens all the time in fiction. This isn't exclusive to Wolverine by any means.
Logan having a couple instances where low superhuman threats pose a danger. Couple times having Class 10-20 characters knocking him out. Same with Class 100+ characters.Then theres his regen going from only being able to heal things like slash wounds+, to being able to come back from being blown to pieces or from a drop of blood. IIRC it can sometimes go even beyond that.
Just bouncing around these levels, tad confusing.
Originally posted by BloodRainWhen Wolverine regenned from a skeleton he had a deal with Death or something. His HF has gone down since then.
Logan having a couple instances where low superhuman threats pose a danger. Couple times having Class 10-20 characters knocking him out. Same with Class 100+ characters.Then theres his regen going from only being able to heal things like slash wounds+, to being able to come back from being blown to pieces or from a drop of blood. IIRC it can sometimes go even beyond that.
Just bouncing around these levels, tad confusing.
But yeah, Wolverine's been in legit danger from extremely skilled humans before. But sometimes he can fight Thor. They really need to divide him into two separate characters.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Link was kod by Bulbins henchmen as well. This happens all the time in fiction. This isn't exclusive to Wolverine by any means.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
When Wolverine regenned from a skeleton he had a deal with Death or something. His HF has gone down since then.But yeah, Wolverine's been in legit danger from extremely skilled humans before. But sometimes he can fight Thor. They really need to divide him into two separate characters.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Link was kod by Bulbins henchmen as well. This happens all the time in fiction. This isn't exclusive to Wolverine by any means.
Originally posted by BloodRainJust because I gain strength that doesn't mean a sword can't hurt me. Come on, br.
Just gonna say that matching the stats I see an average level Logan losing this match, even if he would still be a huge danger.In the Link case thats comparing a weaker Link to a stronger Link. The Logan thing is him throughout the years going up and down in power.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Just because I gain strength that doesn't mean a sword can't hurt me. Come on, br.
That.. Okay this is going to go off-topic if we start this. Link got stronger in some war or another, lets leave it at that.
And the point is theres is a, or in your case is a possibility or a reason for Link. There isnt one for the drastic jumps with Logan.
Originally posted by BloodRainIt is simple common sense that my strength could quadruple and I won't suddenly become sword proof or unkoable I will just be stronger.
That.. Okay this is going to go off-topic if we start this. Link got stronger in some war or another, lets leave it at that.And the point is theres is a, or in your case is a possibility or a reason for Link. There isnt one for the drastic jumps with Logan.
There is inconsistency in every area of fiction including Link.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You didn't answer my question.Anyway, I'm not sure what Colossus' strength is, I know he's class 100+ and has done some cool shit, but Link is also class 100+ and could replicate the feats I've seen from Colossus, such as the submarine lift. The Thing [b]has
OHKO'd Wolverine, Gladiator would have to be a victim of comicbook jobbing, he's FTL, but I can't recall that fight ever happening.More skilled, sure, but his combat speed is lower, so good luck to him. Wolverine's skeleton can't be destroyed by Link, the rest of him is a non-issue, and Link is strong enough to send him airborne with each strike. shrug Link has no reason to take his eyes off of Wolverine, and is already aware Wolverine is present, so he's not caught unaware.
And his skeleton is coated in adamantium, of course his durability rating is high.
Link swings at Wolverine and Wolverine avoids it or takes a tumble, losing an arm just cause is out because until Link tires his combat speed is better. This is a forum battle, it's not drawn out with one character fighting down to the other's level to make it look cooler.
Back to the question:
Link gets Wolverine on the ground and hacks at him with class 100+ strength for three days straight, do you feel Wolverine still counts as 'alive' at the end of that? [/B]
My bad on not answering the question. No he's not going to win if Wolverine just sits there and lets him hack away at him. Not that it would keep him down or that he's going to let himself get caught in a situation like that and if so then not for long.
I can show you plenty of instances where he takes class 100 punches and he's still grounded. So link is going to watch Wolverine taking out the lights and watch the wall he's breaking down at the same time? Link can't fight as well as Wolverine blinded or in the dark and if he tries to break off a wall then he's dead after taking his sights off of Wolverine, not that breaking down a wall is his first thought. He's never really showed to be smart enough to think of something like that right on the fly from what I've seen.
Combat speed lower? Wolverine dodges lasers, speedsters and bullets on a daily basis. Also http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1830/strategyte6.jpg
I know this is a forum battle? There isn't some long drawn out cool battle in my head of how this goes down. Do you really think that the people he fights are written down for him?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Also, where is Srank the resident Wolverine supporter.
He's in the CB vs, you can tell him about it if you want.
Do you really think that the people he fights are written down for him?In many cases, absolutely. Thor being one of the best examples of it I can think of. mmm
So link is going to watch Wolverine taking out the lights and watch the wall he's breaking down at the same time? Link can't fight as well as Wolverine blinded or in the dark and if he tries to break off a wall then he's dead after taking his sights off of Wolverine, not that breaking down a wall is his first thought.There are a lot of lights, Wolverine would need time, smashing out a wall isn't hard for Link. shrug Also, his sword can work as a light source anyway.
Anyway, so you don't believe that having his flesh chopped from his skeleton for days on end could kill Wolverine, and I cannot confirm that it would either.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteLink just got stronger is all. That's it. His durability didn't magically change.
When Wolverine regenned from a skeleton he had a deal with Death or something. His HF has gone down since then.But yeah, Wolverine's been in legit danger from extremely skilled humans before. But sometimes he can fight Thor. They really need to divide him into two separate characters.
When it happened to Link it was because Link hadn't become superhuman yet, Wolverine bounces around like this without changes to his powers.
Originally posted by BloodRainHe developed his skill and perhaps a strength increase. That's it. Wolverine is consistently on another planet than Link in terms of formidability, speed, skill, etc.
Thats still about a characters stats increasing in some form, even if you don't believe he got more durable, the point is something changed.Logan's stats in no way changed throughout these instances.
Originally posted by quanchi112Except that we're shown multiple times that it does indeed change.
Link just got stronger is all. That's it. His durability didn't magically change.
Tanks axe to the face
Stops Dangoro without being crushed
Gets shot out of cannon in the sky at the ground
Stops charging Ganon and Ganondorf.
Stuff.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteYes, those things happened but his skill and strength had changed is all. These are all possibilities and you argue just nonsensically. Lots of stupid crap like being shot out of a cannon but in this verse this wasn't supposed to kill you. A ride anyone can get on and survive yet somehow this shows Link can't die from super high falls in your world.
Except that we're shown multiple times that it does indeed change.Tanks axe to the face
Stops Dangoro without being crushed
Gets shot out of cannon in the sky at the ground
Stops charging Ganon and Ganondorf.Stuff.
Wolverine tussles with the Hulk. Hyrule is a pansy universe.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteIt is Tooney at times and inconsistent. Both cannons prove in this verse you can survive this Tooney type crap.
I'm not talking about Fyer's cannon, I'm talking about the super cannon in the city in the sky, which fires Link directly at the ground.Everything I named proves Link's durability.
No, it just proves inconsistently. Arrows and swords still kill him. He's the same.
