Originally posted by quanchi112
He grows stronger and is as strong as necessary feat. You lied when you said triforce of courage amps strength. You just make things up.So what ? Dorf doesn't look that strong to me at all.
Your opinion is worth less than nothing next to the canon.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He developed his skill and perhaps a strength increase. That's it. Wolverine is consistently on another planet than Link in terms of formidability, speed, skill, etc.
Let's say that he has been training and getting stronger (Sounds unlikely for his character, but I don't know), in the same sense and the Link example that would explain how his stats increase.
Difference is that his stats increase and decrease all the time. Like if Link went from being knocked out by that Bulbin, to later tanking that stronger hit from King Bulbin, to later than that being knocked out by another common Bulbin.
On another thing I'm confused on; What's your stance on gameplay? You always go on about Link not being durably because he can take damage in gameplay, but what about when gameply has him taking explosions, attacks from powerful characters and needing to be slashed tons of times to fall?
Oh my God I see why I left this little debate. I doubt there's anything in that room that's heavy enough to hold Wolverine down. A wall is not heavy enough. Wolverine is not an idiot, he's a more experienced fighter and he for sure is not slower than Link. He dodges lasers, bullets and speedsters on an every day basis. He's sneaked up on a flying Tony Stark, Tony's suit has sensors that would detect someone trying to attack him. He's a master of stealth, assassination, fighting, he has a history of fighting and beating people much stronger than Link. Are some people written down, yes, but not the majority, I'll agree he should be no problem for Thor but others who are weaker than Thor but stronger than Link have lost horribly. Think OHKO Wolverine is honestly an instance where he was jobbed since he took punches much stronger than that like WWH. He's not just going to get knocked out from some sword slash even with Link's supposed strength. The guy has had his entire region blown off from a rocket launcher and he's been conscious, pissed off and in pain but conscious. He's survived point blank explosions while still being conscious. Wolverine is the superior fighter and if he hits his Berserker's Rage then Link isn't touching him.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
You honestly think it's unlikely for Wolverine to train his body and skills?
No no no, just that I'm not sure if Logan is going through some constant training scheme where he's constantly getting stronger and more skilled.
And that was only an example/reasoning about his regeneration and survivability going from Low-superhuman levels to Hulk/godly levels.
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixI don't think I'll ever get into a debate involving Link. Seems like the most annoying and ridiculous crap ever.
Oh my God I see why I left this little debate. I doubt there's anything in that room that's heavy enough to hold Wolverine down. A wall is not heavy enough. Wolverine is not an idiot, he's a more experienced fighter and he for sure is not slower than Link. He dodges lasers, bullets and speedsters on an every day basis. He's sneaked up on a flying Tony Stark, Tony's suit has sensors that would detect someone trying to attack him. He's a master of stealth, assassination, fighting, he has a history of fighting and beating people much stronger than Link. Are some people written down, yes, but not the majority, I'll agree he should be no problem for Thor but others who are weaker than Thor but stronger than Link have lost horribly. Think OHKO Wolverine is honestly an instance where he was jobbed since he took punches much stronger than that like WWH. He's not just going to get knocked out from some sword slash even with Link's supposed strength. The guy has had his entire region blown off from a rocket launcher and he's been conscious, pissed off and in pain but conscious. He's survived point blank explosions while still being conscious. Wolverine is the superior fighter and if he hits his Berserker's Rage then Link isn't touching him.
Originally posted by Zack FairIt is for both sides, trust me. Wei is actually one of the more reasonable people to have to debate against. He doesn't lowball or ignore feats, he states his position on the character he supports.
I don't think I'll ever get into a debate involving Link. Seems like the most annoying and ridiculous crap ever.
Most of the time you just get clownshoes who don't like that the feats in Zelda disagree with their preconceived notions and will argue against the feats even being valid with things like gameplay mechanics and speculation.
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixYou and I disagree on certain points, but we came to the default agreement that it can't be proven Wolverine would die from a beating, or I'm too lazy to try. At this point I see no real reason to argue with you.
I don't bother with it. We seem to be on the same side on this one but for different reasons I think.
Quan on the other hand, I can make him look foolish while he dances around making speculative and inaccurate claims. Which is fun.
Originally posted by BloodRainWrong. His skill level and fighting experience got better so he wasn't caught off guard in this manner not like his durability and strength spiked. It's just bullshit from the Zelda brigade. I mean saying Link puts something heavy on Wolverine to beat him is so damn stupid I don't get why anyone would ever say it.
Let's say that he has been training and getting stronger (Sounds unlikely for his character, but I don't know), in the same sense and the Link example that would explain how his stats increase.Difference is that his stats increase and decrease all the time. Like if Link went from being knocked out by that Bulbin, to later tanking that stronger hit from King Bulbin, to later than that being knocked out by another common Bulbin.
On another thing I'm confused on; What's your stance on gameplay? You always go on about Link not being durably because he can take damage in gameplay, but what about when gameply has him taking explosions, attacks from powerful characters and needing to be slashed tons of times to fall?
You can cut his throat and he dies. Nothing special and he's far from invulnerable.
I mean saying Link puts something heavy on Wolverine to beat him is so damn stupid I don't get why anyone would ever say it.