Ravenna (Universal movie) vs. Zant · Foreign Cinema

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Due to not being able to break the curse.
Yes, I do, it's done so, and could not be broken by the light spirits. You lose.

It has never worked against a shapeshifter. Lol.

World is out of balance that is why. Light spirits are also sissies.

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Midna and Link were both cursed and neither could be reverted by the light spirits. This is simple.

No, Zant's power comes from the ToP.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Midna and Link were both cursed and neither could be reverted by the light spirits. This is simple.
No, Zant's power comes from the ToP.

Because they cannot shape change and the fact light spirits are sissies.

Only reason it worked is due to imbalance though.

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I lol'd. They have region spanning power, something Ravenna does not.

No, the ToP doesn't care about balance.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I lol'd. They have region spanning power, something Ravenna does not.
No, the ToP doesn't care about balance.

Not one shape changer.

That twilight magic only worked under those circumstances.

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And yet they show the power to revert shape changes, and could not overcome the curse.

It's not twilight magic, this is stated in game.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
And yet they show the power to revert shape changes, and could not overcome the curse.
It's not twilight magic, this is stated in game.

So it hasn't worked on a shapeshifter. K. Good.

I consider it twilight magic and its semantics either way.

Ravennas magic is powerful and she can change shapes.

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You can consider it Twilight magic, but its not. Stated facts.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
So it hasn't worked on a shapeshifter. K. Good.
I consider it twilight magic and its semantics either way.
Ravennas magic is powerful and she can change shapes.

Light spirits > Girl who can turn into birds.

Originally posted by BloodRain
You can consider it Twilight magic, but its not. Stated facts.

And even if it were Twilight magic, the quote you're attempting to misuse still wouldn't matter.

Ravenna's magic is not powerful enough to break the curse, hope she likes having gills.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Light spirits > Girl who can turn into birds.
And even if it were Twilight magic, the quote you're attempting to misuse still wouldn't matter.
Ravenna's magic is not powerful enough to break the curse, hope she likes having gills.

Baseless claim.

Never worked on a shapeshifter.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by BloodRain
You can consider it Twilight magic, but its not. Stated facts.

Semantics.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Baseless claim.
Never worked on a shapeshifter.

There's nothing baseless about it, nothing Ravenna does operates on a regional level like the light spirits do.

They are > her, and they could not break the curse, nor could she. Concession accepted.

BloodRain Knight of Retribution

Your whole point is that Twilight can only be used in LoZ due to the balance, light spirits, whatever.. The Shadow Crystals have nothing to do with either.

Ravenna gets fogged.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
There's nothing baseless about it, nothing Ravenna does operates on a regional level like the light spirits do.
They are > her, and they could not break the curse, nor could she. Concession accepted.

Baseless claim. You are just saying things and acting like that is how debating works.

No proof it can prevent a shapeshifter or overcome her magic.

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And yet you've debunked none of my points and supported none of your own. You lose, that is how debating works.

Been proven, the light spirits could not reverse the curse, Ravenna cannot.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by BloodRain
Your whole point is that Twilight can only be used in LoZ due to the balance, light spirits, whatever.. The Shadow Crystals have nothing to do with either.
Ravenna gets fogged.

You are forgetting why they can do so. One reason.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
And yet you've debunked none of my points and supported none of your own. You lose, that is how debating works.
Been proven, the light spirits could not reverse the curse, Ravenna cannot.

It's specific magic against them because of a specific event. Not the case with Ravenna.

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No it's not.

Ganondorf was sent to the Twilight Realm. There, the Demon King granted the ambitious Zant magical powers and began plotting to unite the Light World and the Twilight Realm into a single realm known as the Dark World.

^Ganon gave him magical powers which he uses to crush Ravenna.

BloodRain Knight of Retribution

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are forgetting why they can do so. One reason.

Not Twilight, so whats your argument?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No it's not.
Ganondorf was sent to the Twilight Realm. There, the Demon King granted the ambitious Zant magical powers and began plotting to unite the Light World and the Twilight Realm into a single realm known as the Dark World.
^Ganon gave him magical powers which he uses to crush Ravenna.

Yes.

Amped by hatred there. Moot point. Needed an army and others to do,so along with hatred amp.

Not enough and can't stop a shapeshifter since you can't prove it.