Ravenna (Universal movie) vs. Zant

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Originally posted by quanchi112
No.
No.

No.

No.

Yes, it's a concession. Made something up. Ravenna wins.


You just conceded on every point, so the irony is delicious. Grats, you have no defense against Zant's curse.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You just conceded on every point, so the irony is delicious. Grats, you have no defense against Zant's curse.
No, I didn't.
Shapeshifter and superior magic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I didn't.
Shapeshifter and superior magic.

The curse strips the target of their powers and Zant's magic is superior. You lose.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The curse strips the target of their powers and Zant's magic is superior. You lose.
Only stripped unproven Midna. No.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Only stripped unproven Midna. No.
Using a curse the light spirits could not reverse. It's plenty enough. Ravenna is helpless.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You can pretend whatever ridiculous stance you want to but that doesn't make it true.

It does when I have canon statements to back me up 😛 Midna states it has nothing to do with Twilight. Your argument only covers Twilight magic, thus you have no argument for the Crystals.

And it stops a shapeshifter from changing back, so she wont be able to.

Originally posted by BloodRain
It does when I have canon statements to back me up 😛 Midna states it has nothing to do with Twilight. Your argument only covers Twilight magic, thus you have no argument for the Crystals.

And it stops a shapeshifter from changing back, so she wont be able to.

No, all their magic has to do that event and the world being out of balance.

Yes, I do.

When does she change shape under her own power ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, all their magic has to do that event and the world being out of balance.

Yes, I do.

When does she change shape under her own power ?


You failed to respond to me so I'll destroy your response to BR.

The balance of the world has nothing to do with the powers of any character in Zelda. That things can by their own power tip the balance proves that same power is not dependant on imbalance.

Read HH. The curse strips the target of magical power, Ravenna will lose her ability to shapeshift.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You failed to respond to me so I'll destroy your response to BR.

The balance of the world has nothing to do with the powers of any character in Zelda. That things can by their own power tip the balance proves that same power is not dependant on imbalance.

Read HH. The curse strips the target of magical power, Ravenna will lose her ability to shapeshift.

An oversight.

The balance of the world has to do with why the world was cloaked in twilight. Hatred amped Dorf proving an outside event was needed to fuel his powers further.

No, since her power is greater. No limits fallacy. We don't know what level Midna was at. By your logic it strips Dorf of his as well. I'm sure you will say huh that's different though.

The balance of the world is used to tell Link that just cause shit sucks doesn't mean there's no way to make it better, nothing more.

Her power is not greater, and to say a superior power can strip her of her magic is not a no limit fallacy. Problem with your little argument: The curse comes from a fraction of Ganon's own power.

The light spirits can't deal with it, neither can Ravenna.

Dick, that was my response >[

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, all their magic has to do that event and the world being out of balance.
Yes, I do.
When does she change shape under her own power ?

Wrong. Your 'balance' thing only has to do with Twilight, nothing more. Crystals are canonly stated by Midna to not have anything to do with Twilight.

If you believe that all magic in LoZ can't be used due to this balance than prove it, back up your claims or give it up.

Shapshifters can't shift back under the curse, so Ravenna can't shift. Can try prove her shifting is for some reason on a higher level to save her.. but I doubt you could prove this as much as I'm convinced the reply will be a 'shes better' one 😛

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The balance of the world is used to tell Link that just cause shit sucks doesn't mean there's no way to make it better, nothing more.

Her power is not greater, and to say a superior power can strip her of her magic is not a no limit fallacy. Problem with your little argument: The curse comes from a fraction of Ganon's own power.

The light spirits can't deal with it, neither can Ravenna.

no, world is about checks and balances. You just fail to grasp it.

No, you saying it can is a no limits fallacy. We see his power in combat. Pathetic.

Ravennas magic works differently and she is harder to beat than light spirits.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Dick, that was my response >[

Wrong. Your 'balance' thing only has to do with Twilight, nothing more. Crystals are [b]canonly stated by Midna to not have anything to do with Twilight.

If you believe that all magic in LoZ can't be used due to this balance than prove it, back up your claims or give it up.

Shapshifters can't shift back under the curse, so Ravenna can't shift. Can try prove her shifting is for some reason on a higher level to save her.. but I doubt you could prove this as much as I'm convinced the reply will be a 'shes better' one 😛 [/B]

Both are due to unbalance of both worlds aka Dorf and top.

Just cake the enemies in twilight.

Prove it. No limits fallacy. Healing, her magic had power over entire land as well, just like Dorfs save there are different ways to beat Dorf but not Ravenna. Dorf supplies Zant his power so that's how bad it is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
no, world is about checks and balances. You just fail to grasp it.

No, you saying it can is a no limits fallacy. We see his power in combat. Pathetic.

Ravennas magic works differently and she is harder to beat than light spirits.


No, it is not about checks and balances, it simply contains them. Lol.

No, what I'm saying is blatant truth. By feats Zant's power widely outstrips Ravenna's, and the curse could not be lifted by light spirits, it leaves Ravenna powerless.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No, it is not about checks and balances, it simply contains them. Lol.

No, what I'm saying is blatant truth. By feats Zant's power widely outstrips Ravenna's, and the curse could not be lifted by light spirits, it leaves Ravenna powerless.

You don't understand Hyrule.

Faulty logic. Ravennas logic poisoned her entire land which isn't built on checks and balances, Ravenna wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't understand Hyrule.

Faulty logic. Ravennas logic poisoned her entire land which isn't built on checks and balances, Ravenna wins.


Coming from someone whose beaten one ****ing game. haermm

Ravenna's logic must be nearly as bad as yours. Zant shrouded Hyrule in a completely separate realm with a thought. His is greater, and he turns her into a <small animal of choice> and then makes a crush video with her.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Coming from someone whose beaten one ****ing game. haermm

Ravenna's logic must be nearly as bad as yours. Zant shrouded Hyrule in a completely separate realm with a thought. His is greater, and he turns her into a <small animal of choice> and then makes a crush video with her.

Part 1, 2, and ALTTP. That is 4, lol.

Due to specific event unlike Ravenna.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Part 1, 2, and ALTTP. That is 4, lol.

Due to specific event unlike Ravenna.


And yet you can't seem to remember shit about any of them. haermm The only one I have any reason to believe you've beaten is TP. Which isn't impressive since it's the simplest game in the series.

The event that makes it possible is Ganon making it possible.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
And yet you can't seem to remember shit about any of them. haermm The only one I have any reason to believe you've beaten is TP. Which isn't impressive since it's the simplest game in the series.

The event that makes it possible is Ganon making it possible.

I don't care what you think. Quit lying.

Wrong.

Ravenna wins.

And I don't care about your rampant speculation and mental gymnastics.

Like these here. Ravenna ends up a helpless forest critter and she can't do shit about it. haermm