BloodRain
Knight of Retribution
Originally posted by quanchi112
He needed to overpower her so strength is an absolute. You need to establish dominance over the animal not some girlie boy.
Zant mainly fought by himself so no.
In a fight if you don't have the weight to resist someone actively resist you then its called a dead lift with the weight stopping then lifting. That's what link can do. Very easy to bench 150 but harder to manhandle 150 pound person actively resisting you. He can lift them when his anchor gives him the strength/weight to resist him or it into a stationary dead weight.
There are more than one dark matter form so its even harder since its more stimuli for Zant to have to account for than just Link.
So you admit you started debating without knowing anything about her despite already reaching a conclusion. That's the definition of bias.
Faster than Link so there's that.
Zant didn't do so against Link so relax with your power set debating type of bias.
Zant is controlling the environment so he isn't strong enough he just control over the environment.
She can survive being burned and easily so I don't see why not. Dropping twilight over her would do nothing since you have never understood why its even possible to drop twilight on anyone in the first place.
"Even a quick google search says youre meant to calm horses down, not manhandle them" Putting pressure on a spooked animal or making them feel restricted will only make things worse.
But could summon them as easily as she does. Though I guess its fair, Shadow Beasts here would lopside the thread in Zant's favour.
Basically this is you agreeing that Link has this superhuman strength but his lighter frame obeys the laws of physics? Thats what we've been saying. And still nothing in that segment goes against Link having that strength in his arms. Pretend that Russell or Hancock had their strength but didn't have the supernatural/fictional grip-thing that allows him to resist momentum, even then we both know what would happen if they hit us. Link may not have the weight to stop the charge, but he obviously has the strength to lift them up and throw them. Link's strikes will be powerful if his arms can do this.
So a group of enemies? Okay, what types are we talking about? Flight, ranged attacks, grapples?
I haven't stated who will win yet.. why do you think I've been getting vids shown to me and asking for feats and scenes? I'm forming an argument based on what Zant's got and whats been shown about the queen, the rest to be filled in by whomever wants to debate for that side. Which leads to....; "Do show if you have something showing them above peak human, cause until then.."
By how much? Can you prove their speed? Also Zant is faster than Link, and Link is faster than peak human <- just to add to the speed feats they will need.
Zant flies around Link.. used the force push against Link.. and teleports against Link.. counter?
Based on what, evidence to this claim? Zant created the area, everything in the area was physically real, and with his strength could tip the stage. Nothing said about taking hits from an Ball&Chain Link. So what strength feats do they have to compete and contend?
What does surviving fire have to do with drowning, being in corrosive acid or lava? How does fire resistance help her against constant mauling, dismemberment and being crushed?
Twilight? Now that depends on which variant: Creating a vast shroud of Twilight will need him to first overcome the Light Spirits.. and no spirits or holy light in this thread to resist him here. Second is just forming Dark Fog which doesn't need any thing else but his own power. Third is to physically/individually cause the effects of Twilight on someone like he did with Link.