Morlun vs Colossus and Thing

Started by Oliver North9 pages

this thread is amazing...

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...ripping Adamantium like tissue paper should be enough proof that he is either on or above Thor. Not a single Herald in Marvel has damaged Adamantium, especially as easily as Morlun did. It's pretty clear what the writer intention was when he compared Morlun strength to the strongest character on the planet. No way of denying this. Now the dispute is...has Parker ever felt the punch of an angry Hulk?

Why I'm on this topic...Stiltman, didn't forget about you bro. Classic Ultron was made out of Primary Adamantium and Hulk one punched him denting his shell so that wasp can enter.

lmao u can't be serious

Originally posted by curryman
Didn't even see him rip the net...

It's not like Thor and Hulk hasn't dealt with Adamantium either.

Don't even bother trying to bring up JMS' credibility when you're trying to sell him with Hudlin's trash writing.


One pannel - Morlun cought in an adamantium net.
"RIIIP" sound effect.
Second pannel - the net is ripped to pieces in Morlun's hands.
Lets just agree to disagree as I really do not see what else is there to discuss or what other proof is required. Second part of your post I did not understand.

Originally posted by SamZED
One pannel - Morlun cought in an adamantium net.
"RIIIP" sound effect.
Second pannel - the net is ripped to pieces in Morlun's hands.
Lets just agree to disagree as I really do not see what else is there to discuss or what other proof is required. Second part of your post I did not understand.

Someone tried to pass off Spidey's remark as a fact because JMS is a respected writer.

The whole issue with the net. We don't know if it was primary adamantium or secondary adamantium. Or if it was just laced with a very small amount to strengthen it. It looked like a normal net, and if Morlun can just shred primary adamantium like nothing, then Adamantium's credibility has gone down, or some writer has too much power on their hands.

^ It was referred as "adamantium net" i believe its been agreed on the forum that its primary unless stated otherwise.

Originally posted by curryman
Someone tried to pass off Spidey's remark as a fact because JMS is a respected writer.
Wasnt me. I was going by feats.

Originally posted by carver9
Why I'm on this topic...Stiltman, didn't forget about you bro. Classic Ultron was made out of Primary Adamantium and Hulk one punched him denting his shell so that wasp can enter.

That was Secret Wars and it was Banner Hulk, so one of his weaker incarnations-as his intelligence hindered his rage amping ability, moreso than Merged/Professor Hulk. So if Morlun is a major threat to rank with Hulk and Thor, he could possibly rip through adamantium net.

Like I've stated before, Morlun is one of the only (minus Hulk and Nul) to rip through Adamantium effortlessly. I cant think of another time adamantium was shredded, especially as easy as Morlun did it. This doesnt include everything else he's done in that same arc. I haven't seen a shed of evidence pointed the other way proving Morlun isn't on the top of the food chain when it comes to strength...hell, add durability to that as well.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...ripping Adamantium like tissue paper should be enough proof that he is either on or above Thor. Not a single Herald in Marvel has damaged Adamantium, especially as easily as Morlun did. It's pretty clear what the writer intention was when he compared Morlun strength to the strongest character on the planet. No way of denying this. Now the dispute is...has Parker ever felt the punch of an angry Hulk?

Why I'm on this topic...Stiltman, didn't forget about you bro. Classic Ultron was made out of Primary Adamantium and Hulk one punched him denting his shell so that wasp can enter.

Right before Nuul tore adamantium like you keep bringing up, Thor kicked the shit out of a fresh Nuul
So I don't see why it puts him above Thor

And yes he has

He didn't one punch him you cretin

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Right before Nuul tore adamantium like you keep bringing up, Thor kicked the shit out of a fresh Nuul
So I don't see why it puts him above Thor

And yes he has

He didn't one punch him you cretin

We've been through this before and I owned you with scans. Don't know why you keep bringing this up to me because you're wrong.

No need to respond to the rest of your post.

Originally posted by carver9
We've been through this before and I owned you with scans. Don't know why you keep bringing this up to me because you're wrong.

No need to respond to the rest of your post.

Never happened, literally ever.

But you're saying Morlun is possibly above Thor because he tore adamantium in the same posts that you're bragging about Hulk doing it. Yet, when Hulk did it, it was after getting knocked out by Thor, so clearly something is wrong here. I just don't agree with Morlun possibly being above Thor.

The rest of my post is in response to you asking questions, or saying shit like "Hulk one punched Ultron"

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Never happened, literally ever.

But you're saying Morlun is possibly above Thor because he tore adamantium in the same posts that you're bragging about Hulk doing it. Yet, when Hulk did it, it was after getting knocked out by Thor, so clearly something is wrong here. I just don't agree with Morlun possibly being above Thor.

The rest of my post is in response to you asking questions, or saying shit like "Hulk one punched Ultron"

Didnt he only dent a small portion of ultron? and wasnt that retconned as secondary adamantium anyway....i thought marvel retconned every occurence of adamantium being broken as it being secondary. the only instance of it actually being broken was by s'ym iirc.

Plus you make a good point about the hulk/null, thor argument

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Didnt he only dent a small portion of ultron? and wasnt that retconned as secondary adamantium anyway....i thought marvel retconned every occurence of adamantium being broken as it being secondary. the only instance of it actually being broken was by s'ym iirc.

Plus you make a good point about the hulk/null, thor argument


To my knowledge it was never retconned.

Hulk literally broke/dented Ultron's neck with a punch. Has Thor EVER damaged Ultron? And keep in mind this was when Hulk was having issues because he wasn't fully Banner or fully Hulk, so he felt he wasn't smart or savage enough to be useful to the Heroes in the Secret War :

Here is Hulk damaging Ultron with his punch :

Thor had his chance to shine vs Ultron but he ran before Ultron fired off his disintegration beam that Doom installed. Earlier when Thor actually attacked Ultron with Mjolnir, it did no damage, just knocked him off balance :

lol at Hulk getting dropped by a shot to the leg. All the times I've seen that, and I never noticed that before.

Also, Thor was fighting about 10 villains at once. Obviously he used his full power against Ultron in that throw to "damage Ultie a little"

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
lol at Hulk getting dropped by a shot to the leg. All the times I've seen that, and I never noticed that before.

Also, Thor was fighting about 10 villains at once. Obviously he used his full power against Ultron in that throw to "damage Ultie a little"


Good point. Now has Thor, sans any kind of amp like the Odinforce, ever damaged Ultron?

Originally posted by zopzop
Good point. Now has Thor, sans any kind of amp like the Odinforce, ever damaged Ultron?
Don't think so.

But he has dented a solid adamantium cylinder before.

Besides adamantium nets, I don't think you're going to see anyone outright destroying it.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Don't think so.

But he has dented a solid adamantium cylinder before.

Besides adamantium nets, I don't think you're going to see anyone outright destroying it.


Is this the incident you are referring to?

So Thor "scarcely dented" an adamantium cylinder with his "mightiest blow" but Hulk (that wasn't full on Savage Hulk or full on Banner) snapped Ultron's neck with a punch?

Thor knocked out himself attacking ultron. He's attacked secondary adamantium ultrons with wonder man and did no damage. Also that ultron in secret wars was retconned as a secondary adamantium ultron.

Originally posted by zopzop
Is this the incident you are referring to?

So Thor "scarcely dented" an adamantium cylinder with his "mightiest blow" but Hulk (that wasn't full on Savage Hulk or full on Banner) snapped Ultron's neck with a punch?
Yes. Thor with an uncharged blow was the first to damage Adamantium. You'll also notice pieces flying off.

Snapped neck? Look at his neck in the third and forth panels. The third one it's standing straight up, and the forth one has his neck bent on the complete opposite side.
http://i44.tinypic.com/2502gjk.jpg

Also notice how one shotted Hulk was with a leg shot.