Originally posted by One Big Mob
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JSA-1999/Issue-50?id=44199You can also flip over to 78 to read another arc of his. T-Bolt stuff as well. Not the best end for him but meh.
thanks. i'll def check it out. and thanks bada. 👆
Originally posted by leonidas
i agree that it could be close but i still think odin's base power level is a fair ways beyond mordru's base level--which is difficult to determine, admittedly. his ability to absorb power is impressive though so if he were able to absorb odin's power like he did to nabu odin could be in trouble. in that fight though he was working the spell throughout their battle. the other big absorption feats i saw (infinite man and all the teacher/sorcerers) happened when the enemy wasn't ready--the sorcerers even said they didn't have time to defend. when he absorbed nabu, i think that was the battle where they were both weakened in dov as well. correct me if that isnt' the case. looked through so much nabu stuff i may be mixing it up.bottomline--i said a while back i thought mordru was in the skyfather tier. i still believe that. at base level i think he'd be at the lower end, but with his absorption powers he could go to the top, and even beyond that. /shrug
I degree with all of this. In an actual fight there is a chance Mordru could absorb enough power to match or even take abwin vs Odin, but at there base level power level odin's definitely on a higher level.
Abhi referenced an amp based on mordru's performance vs amethyst. This is because his first post-crisis appearance in the 20th century was a loss to an neophyte amethyst who didn't really understand the scope or capability of her power in. The context of course excluded in referencing that was it that was mordru's first appearance in a mortal form. A form that weakens all of the Immortal Lords the exact same way weekend Nabu when he took on the mortal form in Egypt and when he found himself to the deceased body of his former post as Doctor Fate Kent Nelson. Later in that series of amethyst the tide was turned after mordru had found the soul of the gem world sorcerer whose body he had taken (said sorcerer made the mistake of sumonning Mordru and paid the price) to it's form giving him a second life force for magic to be wielded through. This second life form is exactly the reason why can't and inza merge together are more powerful than Kent as Doctor Fate with two life forms more energy can be wielded without damaging the host itself. When Mordru took the body of Arion as a host he did the same thing hence why Arion's soul going through the host body to free itself to the afterlife weakens mordru and allowed the Justice society to be able to take him down.
The other thing that allows a mortal form to wield more power than it can through itself is artefacts of power which is why he has tried to take the vestments of Fate so many times
This is lord or order shartru explaining it
Nabu (when in Kent's body )confirming
And Kent himself explaining
If I spent enough time looking I'm sure I could also find the scans of Phantom stranger explaining this very fact and how the only other way magic can be used by mortals is through the Lord's of power, familiars or talismans.
It's that very limitation that brings mordru down that step or two from Odin at base
You better hope that Mordru doesn't stalemate or defeat Nabu. Nabu is already well beyond Odin level.
The Helm of Fate carried power beyond gods.
Can't wait for Mordru's entrance.
Newly powered up by Mordru, the Justice League Dark have become the Lords of Chaos to stop Doctor Fate before it’s too late! But will this deal with the devil cost more than Wonder Woman and her team bargained for?
Nabu/Mordru rumble will be epic. Crosses fingers. 😄
Originally posted by Senor Cage
You better hope that Mordru doesn't stalemate or defeat Nabu. Nabu is already well beyond Odin level.The Helm of Fate carried power beyond gods.
Can't wait for Mordru's entrance.
Nabu/Mordru rumble will be epic. Crosses fingers. 😄
Why would I need to hope??
The debate is about the here and now and what has been, not what may be. If something changes in the future it doesnt alter the outcome in the here and now. Added to which if it does it wouldnt change the outcome of this debate
Rules/Standard Fight Settings
In most cases, the poster who originally set up the versus fight determines the conditions of the fight itself (ex. If a character like Superman is in a thread, it'll be assumed that it's the current version unless mentioned otherwise by the thread starter, the same goes with Thanos without the IG, and so on). However, in the cases where the original poster did not set down any constraints or conditions for the fight, then the match would default to the standard rules below.
Forum rules clearly state any thread is about the "current version". Any upgrade in power Mordru shows AFTER the thread creator started it (unless he states its included) is irrelivant to the discussion on mordru as he "Currently was" at the time the thread started.
Originally posted by beatboks
Why would I need to hope??The debate is about the here and now and what has been, not what may be. If something changes in the future it doesnt alter the outcome in the here and now. Added to which if it does it wouldnt change the outcome of this debate
Forum rules clearly state any thread is about the "current version". Any upgrade in power Mordru shows AFTER the thread creator started it (unless he states its included) is irrelivant to the discussion on mordru as he "Currently was" at the time the thread started.
No shit. I'm just bringing up the current storyline, which involves mordru.
Originally posted by Senor Cage
No shit. I'm just bringing up the current storyline, which involves mordru.
Which is relevant to characters as they were when this discussion started in may 2013 (6 years before this storyline currently happening in which nothing to do with the characters discussed in this thread is yet shown apparently) exactly how??
My point is it has no baring what so ever on the discussion being held, so why even mention it??
Once the storyline has finished we can discuss how things may have changed. That still doesnt alter or invalidate anybof the discussion held before. Nor is it relevant to the question asked by the OP
Originally posted by Senor Cage
If you dont want to discuss it, then fine, but we'll he discussing the most recent incarnation of mordru right around the corner. And it'll he interesting as to why he is the key in stopping Nabu.
I never said I don't want to discuss it
You made the comment "you'd better hope" as though it was some threat that would make me feel inadequate because I made some comment contrary before it occured.
WTF who gives a f.
My point is it's not relevant to the discussion happening now or previously so no one has to hope for anything. It changes nothing in regards to that discussion.
It's erroneous and of no bearing on any of the discussion held until the time it happens, so grow up.
Originally posted by beatboksNot sure if it's still this way, but the threads scale with the times. Meaning it's perfectly viable to debate later and current stories on old threads. Just don't expect old posts to reference new information, of course.
Forum rules clearly state any thread is about the "current version". Any upgrade in power Mordru shows AFTER the thread creator started it (unless he states its included) is irrelivant to the discussion on mordru as he "Currently was" at the time the thread started.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So Lords of Order are the beings who have made all rules of magic (fifty beings are capable of ending entire reality with magic), yet Zatanna breaks all rule of magic with Mordru's power and then Diana fixed all of reality and all the destroyed dimensions by it.
Holy shit. Mordru is insanely powerful.
as good a reason as any. 👆
incidentally, i'm not even sure i really ever said who i thought would win here. i was too busy trying to determine real feats from fan-fic ones. i did learn mordru is powerful--more powerful than i originally thought--but i'm still uncertain his best feats are beyond odin's best feats though. i conceded that mordru could drain odin though for some wins, but i do think odin could take some as well. i get that that take is really impossible for some to understand, but looking through the feats, not sure how one or the other can be said to be well beyond the other.
this thread.... 😂