Originally posted by celeyhyga17
K I'm not sure what ure saying anymore. Ure kinda all over the place now. What are u saying exactly?
This again? How many times are you going to be regurgiating the same shit?
Are u saying that the realms are not fully formed universes? No one is saying it 616 in level, but pretty much complete as far being its own dimension. Which still makes it incredibly large in comparison to just land mass.
It was explained in Fraction's run(modern take)...
http://oi65.tinypic.com/2w7k09z.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/sl9bprkez/RCO004.jpg
And then further touched upon by Aaron.
https://postimg.cc/JsR25HkJ
Haha, WTF. This is just lying now, that "universe" was old Asgard and it was small as shit.
Collector stole the entire realm in a ship the size of a small solar system.
Or are u agreeing that the realms are fully functioning universes, but only Heven proper was transported away and placed in another dimension?
No, the realms are pocket realms and Heven is just a city which was transported to another dimension. Which you argued had its own galaxies BTW.
If that's the case, it's still a massive feat and beyond your terms of "galactic" since the Angels were free to move about and travel to different celestial bodies in that dimension/void... Which means the whole dimension or mini universe or what have you was sealed off since they still could not reach other dimensions/universes. Add to that they were literally wiped off from memory. As in basically no one from the other 9 realms knew of their existence save from the Watcher and maybe other powerful beings. It's a massive showing of power no matter how u look at it.
Dude, we went over it. Heven was a floating city which was sent to another universe where angels found other worlds and the door was sealed with a barrier which Thor broke.
Yeah, such a galactic feat.
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I think you pull out scans without having proper context because you don't read the full story.
This scan is a flashback from the final issue of Angela Asgard's Assassin. When Freyja "sundered Heven from the World Tree", it's referencing the Angel's further being removed from normal connection to Yggdrasil. Freyja set a curse on them when she literally hacked off pieces of the World Tree to complete the process. The Angels now become the lowest of Hel and suffer greatly once they pass on. They now don't even have their own normal fate. It even references Odin removing
Alright, but Angela Asgard's Assassin already retconned it. So meh.
Originally posted by Mr Master
False. In Marvel comics, a "pocket" reality is NEVER referred to as just a universe.It is always labeled a "pocket" universe/dimension for clarification.
Uh-huh.
Actually, the very fact that they needed a "nexus," is the proof the universes were [b]outside 616.
Asgard is "outside" 616 universe genius, it's an extradimensional realm but it's not a different universe.
uhh, that's what a Marvel "nexus" is: an access point to other realities outside your own.
Different universes in marvel multiverse don't need a nexus to do that.
Rage, this is my game, I'll take this if you don't mine..
I already have bout 30 scans in wait, since I've owned others in this subject. [/B]
Since rage is too coward to do that, sure.
Also I just reread the world eater saga and what did I find? The very comic which says Asgard is a "full formed universe" explicitly states that when Asgard's city was brought to Earth, there is nothing left in the Asgard dimension.
"Nature abhors a vacuum".
The city of the Asgard is literally the complete Asgardian dimension, without it there is nothing there. Exploding the scans so even Leo can read it.
Same confirmed by Loki in Thor 619.
Fraction literally hoodwinked every Thorbag out there.
😂
Still not convinced? Well, this should otherwise you're just dumb.
See, there was this small event in marvel in 2015 called secret wars where universes collided with universes. Now did "fully formed universes" of nine universes collided with other universes? No, 616 universe collided with 1610 universe and all of the "fully formed universes" of ten realms were destroyed alongwith 616 universe.
Like I said, if you can't accept that "ten realms" are not actual universes like 616 universe, you're either dumb or a moron. Or both.
Abhil keeps confusing the Asgardian landmass/city with the Actual Asgardian dimension. Asgard and the Asgardian city have classically been used interchangeably. This is not a difficult concept to understand.
Also, I think he doesn't read his own scans:
https://i.postimg.cc/0Q1QMVD2/image.jpg
Edit: Hooboy. Didn't even notice.
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
now that the troll is gone........i think the classic odin is a little bit above mordru based on what ive read here. seems like theyre in the same ball park of power but odin would edge him out most of the time.
i agree that it could be close but i still think odin's base power level is a fair ways beyond mordru's base level--which is difficult to determine, admittedly. his ability to absorb power is impressive though so if he were able to absorb odin's power like he did to nabu odin could be in trouble. in that fight though he was working the spell throughout their battle. the other big absorption feats i saw (infinite man and all the teacher/sorcerers) happened when the enemy wasn't ready--the sorcerers even said they didn't have time to defend. when he absorbed nabu, i think that was the battle where they were both weakened in dov as well. correct me if that isnt' the case. looked through so much nabu stuff i may be mixing it up.
bottomline--i said a while back i thought mordru was in the skyfather tier. i still believe that. at base level i think he'd be at the lower end, but with his absorption powers he could go to the top, and even beyond that. /shrug
IF it happens. you are NOTORIOUS for jumping the gun. we'd need to see the context behind the feat too. didn't you post him "owning" the t-bolt?
i'm not sure i understand this feat tbh. it looks like in mid summons the t-bolt was taken out, but it was never given direction or never had a chance to defend or anything. then you said the t-bolt was cut off from the 5th dimension? where was that said? this appears to be a surprise attack against a defenseless opponent who wasn't even fully formed at the time... am i missing somethng here? 😕
you also said it was mordru's greatest feat...?
this isn't beating a dead horse. just trying to have a rational discussion about this guys and his feats.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JSA-1999/Issue-50?id=44199
You can also flip over to 78 to read another arc of his. T-Bolt stuff as well. Not the best end for him but meh.
Originally posted by leonidas
IF it happens. you are NOTORIOUS for jumping the gun. we'd need to see the context behind the feat too. didn't you post him "owning" the t-bolt?i'm not sure i understand this feat tbh. it looks like in mid summons the t-bolt was taken out, but it was never given direction or never had a chance to defend or anything. then you said the t-bolt was cut off from the 5th dimension? where was that said? this appears to be a surprise attack against a defenseless opponent who wasn't even fully formed at the time... am i missing somethng here? 😕
you also said it was mordru's greatest feat...?
this isn't beating a dead horse. just trying to have a rational discussion about this guys and his feats.
Like Galan said, nanu and mordru have been equals or close to it. Read justice league dark. It was hinted in the start of the series that Mordru is key in taking down the other kind, Nabu, etc... IF it happens, it would put him well above the skyfather category.
