Originally posted by operator616
i admit this evidence is new to me, and this looks old, are you sure this hasn't been retconned yet? because death of the endless is way above black racer, it's logical to assume that she has more authority than him.
Writer's comments (aka butthurt Gaiman) don't count.
Originally posted by zopzop
It doesn't work that way. You stated she was the one and only Death.Here is on panel evidence stating otherwise :
There are at least three faces of the Death abstract in DC : Black Racer - Death as Inevitability, Death of the Endless - Death as Compassionate Release, Nekron - Death as Cosmic Certainty AND Death as the Ultimate Foe.
Ok now your turn.
I've seen this before but that last page has something new I just spotted. Lower right hand corner has a hooded figure. Mistress Death?
Originally posted by curryman
lol.This is 100% because Hickman's pissing on that shitty Starbrand item and having a ball with off-panel comments 😄
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
I've seen this before but that last page has something new I just spotted. Lower right hand corner has a hooded figure. Mistress Death?
Originally posted by zopzopBooks of Magic showed us that Death of the Endless is the last concept left when the universe comes to an end:
I've never seen this retconned on panel.Writer's comments (aka butthurt Gaiman) don't count.
As for where Nekron stands in relation to Death of the Endless, I've always found this scene quite telling:
Lex: "The attack of the Black Lanterns! The dead rising! That's what this is about, isn't it? It was you behind that!"
Death of the Endless: "Oh yeah. I noticed that. It looked like they were all having a great time. You know, people do come back from the dead. It's not a big deal... I AM kind of busy.":
Lex: "The dead have come back to life! Several of them!"
Death of the Endless: "It happens! In the end, they ALL come back to ME.":
Death seemed to treat the entire Blackest Night affair like it was an insignificant event that barely warranted her notice. Funny.
Originally posted by Galan007
Books of Magic showed us that Death of the Endless is the last concept left when the universe comes to an end:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15847267/1.jpg.html
So even IF you want to try to argue that there are still multiple personifications of Death in DC, Death of the Endless is clearly the most powerful/important among them, given that she is the last thing left when creation itself comes to an end.As for where Nekron stands in relation to Death of the Endless, I've always found this scene quite telling:
Lex: "The attack of the Black Lanterns! The dead rising! That's what this is about, isn't it? It was you behind that!"
Death of the Endless: "Oh yeah. I noticed that. It looked like they were all having a great time. You know, people do come back from the dead. It's not a big deal... I AM kind of busy.":Lex: "The dead have come back to life! Several of them!"
Death of the Endless: "It happens! In the end, they ALL come back to ME.":Death seemed to treat the entire Blackest Night affair like it was an insignificant event that barely warranted her notice. Funny.
Was waiting for you to bring this 👆
It's messed up. Too many retcons and writers that can't agree.
Originally posted by Galan007
Books of Magic showed us that Death of the Endless is the last concept left when the universe comes to an end:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15847267/1.jpg.html
So even IF you want to try to argue that there are still multiple personifications of Death in DC, Death of the Endless is clearly the most powerful/important among them, given that she is the last thing left when creation itself comes to an end.
You're telling me Death as Compassionate Release aka Death of the Endless is the one to turn out the lights of a universe whose time has come/run it's course leaving behind nothing but a black, lifeless void?
Good thing there isn't an Aspect of Death that existed in such a black lifeless void, wants to return the universe to such a state, and is known as Death as Cosmic Certainty or else you'd have a point.
Oh wait..........there is. It's called Nekron.
As for where Nekron stands in relation to Death of the Endless, I've always found this scene quite telling:Lex: "The attack of the Black Lanterns! The dead rising! That's what this is about, isn't it? It was you behind that!"
Death of the Endless: "Oh yeah. I noticed that. It looked like they were all having a great time. You know, people do come back from the dead. It's not a big deal... I AM kind of busy.":Lex: "The dead have come back to life! Several of them!"
Death of the Endless: "It happens! In the end, they ALL come back to ME.":Death seemed to treat the entire Blackest Night affair like it was an insignificant event that barely warranted her notice. Funny.
Exactly like it was stated in the Captain Atom issue, Death is a big concept, it has many faces. Death of the Endless is just one of those faces. I don't have to bother with the scan, you saw it already.
***** Also love the fact that she never showed her face during the entire Blackest Night event and only opened her mouth once Nekron was banished back to his kingdom.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Which pretty much confirms that Nekron=/=Death.
Originally posted by Galan007
Books of Magic showed us that Death of the Endless is the last concept left when the universe comes to an end:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15847267/1.jpg.html
So even IF you want to try to argue that there are still multiple personifications of Death in DC, Death of the Endless is clearly the most powerful/important among them, given that she is the last thing left when creation itself comes to an end.As for where Nekron stands in relation to Death of the Endless, I've always found this scene quite telling:
Lex: "The attack of the Black Lanterns! The dead rising! That's what this is about, isn't it? It was you behind that!"
Death of the Endless: "Oh yeah. I noticed that. It looked like they were all having a great time. You know, people do come back from the dead. It's not a big deal... I AM kind of busy.":Lex: "The dead have come back to life! Several of them!"
Death of the Endless: "It happens! In the end, they ALL come back to ME.":Death seemed to treat the entire Blackest Night affair like it was an insignificant event that barely warranted her notice. Funny.
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Originally posted by zopzopLol, it is confirmed on panel that Death of the Endless is the ONLY 'thing' that remains when creation ends-- not Death of the Endless + Nekron. You can't argue with on panel, nor can you place your own interpretations on clearly-stated canon material.
Hold on one second!You're telling me Death as Compassionate Release aka Death of the Endless is the one to turn out the lights of a universe whose time has come/run it's course leaving behind nothing but a black, lifeless void?
Good thing there isn't an Aspect of Death that existed in such a black lifeless void, wants to return the universe to such a state, and is known as Death as Cosmic Certainty or else you'd have a point.
Oh wait..........there is. It's called Nekron.
Originally posted by zopzop*sighs*
Also love the fact that she never showed her face during the entire Blackest Night event and only opened her mouth once Nekron was banished back to his kingdom.
The entire event was beneath her notice, dood. She made it quite clear that Nekron's tangent "wasn't a big deal." Why? Because, "they ALL come back to her in the end."
That said, I'm sure that you'll just respond to me with [more] nonsensical BS, because it is exceedingly difficult to pry you from Nekron's bone... So don't expect me to respond again. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007
Lol, it is confirmed on panel that Death of the Endless is the ONLY 'thing' that remains when creation ends-- not Death of the Endless + Nekron. You can't argue with on panel, nor can you place your own interpretations on clearly-stated canon material. You might not want to believe it, but canon>zop's opinion.
~faceaplm~The entire event was beneath her notice, dood. She made it quite clear that Nekron's tangent "wasn't a big deal." She didn't care. Why? Because, "they ALL come back to her in the end."
And of course they come back to "her". She' Death as Compassionate Release, one of the many aspects of Death. Living things die and then their souls go to Nekron on their way to final judgement :
Originally posted by zopzopSo when creation ends, Nekron exits his realm and overtakes the empty void of space where creation used to be? Where was that stated?The ONLY thing to remain is a black, lifeless void right?
Has that been retconned? [/B]
Because in the scan I posted, Death of the Endless very clearly says that she is the ONLY thing left.
Originally posted by Galan007
So when creation ends, Nekron exits his realm and overtakes the empty void where creation used to be? Where was that stated?
Originally posted by zopzop
The ONLY thing to remain is a black, lifeless void right?
Has that been retconned?
I'll lol in advance at your incoming flimsy flop of an argument.
Originally posted by Galan007
So when creation ends, Nekron exits his realm and overtakes the empty void of space where creation used to be? Where was that stated?Because in the scan I posted, Death of the Endless very clearly says that she is the ONLY thing left.
Originally posted by zopzopYou didn't answer my question, dear zop.
Creation doesn't end. It loops :
Nekron is the sentient darkness and the void before life returns to the universe, then he's banished back to Purgatory.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
So Nekron being a vacuum somehow equates to him being a literal void? Do you even know what a void is? Spaceless, timeless, immaterial. Two of which are criteria that Nekron does not even fulfill.I'll lol in advance at your incoming flimsy flop of an argument.
