Gandalf the White (movie) vs. Ganondorf (TP)

Started by BloodRain30 pages

"As to the Balrogs durability we see a lightning blast destroy him after he was weathered by Gandalf who really demonstrated nothing really powerful IMO other than the lightning strike."

"The Balrog and Gandalf both survived but we've seen far less durability wise beat Gandalf the Grey."

"Powerful enough to ko a human or knock them back 15 feet or both. That's one example. That's more powerful than a Saruman push which defeated Gandalf in their pansy wizard battle."

Soo Gandalf demonstes nothing powerful besides the lightning charge, that with the falling-for-miles durability he still gets beaten by less, and that Gandalf gets defeated by attacks below the likes of 'ko a human'. By your word Gandalf has no feats above that of a human :T

Originally posted by BloodRain
"As to the Balrogs durability we see a lightning blast destroy him after he was weathered by Gandalf who really demonstrated nothing really powerful IMO other than the lightning strike."

"The Balrog and Gandalf both survived but we've seen far less durability wise beat Gandalf the Grey."

"Powerful enough to ko a human or knock them back 15 feet or both. That's one example. That's more powerful than a Saruman push which defeated Gandalf in their pansy wizard battle."

Soo Gandalf demonstes nothing powerful besides the lightning charge, that with the falling-for-miles durability he still gets beaten by less, and that Gandalf gets defeated by attacks below the likes of 'ko a human'. By your word Gandalf has no feats above that of a human :T

Gandalf is powerful but without his staff not as formidable. Saruman was greater than the Gray version but inferior to Gandalf the White. Gandalf is powerful enough to kill Dorf since swords pierce his flesh easily whereas Gandalf slaved a much more durable foe.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Castle busting > Gandalf.
Master Sword > Gandalf.
You cannot prove he died.
Speculation.

That's what happened. Gandalf>>Ms.

Gandalf>>Dorf.

Originally posted by BloodRain
1. Slow, flailing arms from the Balrog. Though we're getting somewhere; how durable does this make him then?
Yeah fastest speed Gandalf could have fallen is terminal velocity, and he fell into water, right?

2. Durability, not physical strength. Show me his physical strength.

How many times must you be asked to prove something before you manage to back up a claim? Is refusing to explain or prove things really how you argue?

1. Balrog weighs much more and Gandalf still bests him. Fell into rocks and was struck by the Balrog along the way.

Stabbing him shows physical strength. Gandalf wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Speculation.

That's what happened. Gandalf>>Ms.

Gandalf>>Dorf.


There is nothing speculative about castle busting being above Movie Gandalf. Nothing at all.

There is even less speculation about Gandalf's power relative to Fi, she dwarfs him.

Ganondorf is too far beyond movie Gandalf for this thread to be a thing.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
There is nothing speculative about castle busting being above Movie Gandalf. Nothing at all.

There is even less speculation about Gandalf's power relative to Fi, she dwarfs him.

Ganondorf is too far beyond movie Gandalf for this thread to be a thing.

We don't know what hit her, etc.

Speculation.

Based on ?

We know exactly what hit Dorf. A big magic, castle busting spear.

I lol'd, prove Gandalf is comparable to Fi or stfu.

Based on his greater power, speed, durability, and longer list of abilities.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
We know exactly what hit Dorf. A big magic, castle busting spear.

I lol'd, prove Gandalf is comparable to Fi or stfu.

Based on his greater power, speed, durability, and longer list of abilities.

Speculation. Portal making abilities. We see Dalf tank things unlike Slavedorf.

Gandalf wins.

We see the spear come down from Dorf's POV. Sorry boy.

Gandalf can't hurt Ganon.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
We see the spear come down from Dorf's POV. Sorry boy.

Gandalf can't hurt Ganon.

We don't see it connect. Not greater than Gandalf tanks.

He kills him as swords pierce his slave skin.

We know it connects because the scene fades when it does. Which is irrelevant here because even being near that attack places Ganondorf out of Gandalf's threat range. Gandalf can't hurt him.

So you have no argument and are regurgitating nonsense. Good.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
We know it connects because the scene fades when it does. Which is irrelevant here because even being near that attack places Ganondorf out of Gandalf's threat range. Gandalf can't hurt him.

So you have no argument and are regurgitating nonsense. Good.

We don't know how powerful the attack is which is my point. A sword can cut through him and Gandalf has a sword.

No, you concede since swords cut into his skin like butter.

Yes we know how powerful it is, it levelled Hyrule Castle. Not 'a' sword, the Master Sword, wielded by a class 100.

You're being intentionally dense, I guess.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Yes we know how powerful it is, it levelled Hyrule Castle. Not 'a' sword, the Master Sword, wielded by a class 100.

You're being intentionally dense, I guess.

Speculation. Baseless claim.

You making things up isn't debating.

Based in fact. Play the game through if you forget so many details.

Castle buster > Gandalf. Fact.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Based in fact. Play the game through if you forget so many details.

Castle buster > Gandalf. Fact.

You forgot Zant was killed by Midna. Lol. Gandalf wins as swords easily cut through Dorf.

Zant has nothing to do with this thread, lol. Ganondorf tanks castle busters without harm. Gandalf cannot hurt him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
his slave skin.

😐?

Originally posted by quanchi112
1. Balrog weighs much more and Gandalf still bests him. Fell into rocks and was struck by the Balrog along the way.
[QUOTE=14313992]Originally posted by quanchi112
Gandalf is powerful but without his staff not as formidable. Saruman was greater than the Gray version but inferior to Gandalf the White. Gandalf is powerful enough to kill Dorf since swords pierce his flesh easily whereas Gandalf slaved a much more durable foe.

Stabbing him shows physical strength. Gandalf wins.
[/QUOTE]
1. Key word ladies and gentlemen is 'rocks'. Its durability is hitting into, maybe breaking off chunks of rock with that being in its attack range too. Breaking off chunks of rock. That is the only strength and durability on offer here.

Then again, as you've said, despite these feats Graydalf would get defeated by attacks that register below 'human KO' level. Meaning by this Whitedalf's power is above Saruman and his sub-human KO power. Your words, not mine.

2. So what you're saying is that Gandalf needs his weapon to be charged by lightning to be able to damage someone with the Balrog's durability? A worthy note.

Gandalf is powerful enough to kill Dorf since swords pierce his flesh easily

Is this how he will win, a sword fight with Ganondorf?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Zant has nothing to do with this thread, lol. Ganondorf tanks castle busters without harm. Gandalf cannot hurt him.
Speculation as we don't see it.

Originally posted by BloodRain
😐?

Stabbing him shows physical strength. Gandalf wins.


1. Key word ladies and gentlemen is 'rocks'. Its durability is hitting into, maybe breaking off chunks of rock with that being in its attack range too. Breaking off chunks of rock. That is the only strength and durability on offer here.

Then again, as you've said, despite these feats Graydalf would get defeated by attacks that register below 'human KO' level. Meaning by this Whitedalf's power is above Saruman and his sub-human KO power. Your words, not mine.

2. So what you're saying is that Gandalf needs his weapon to be charged by lightning to be able to damage someone with the Balrog's durability? A worthy note.

Is this how he will win, a sword fight with Ganondorf? [/B][/QUOTE] When his weapon is gone; sure. Not the case here. Gandalfs sword cuts into him as both swords have done prior to.

I am saying he needs that to defeat someone of Balrogs durability which is greater than Slavedorf.

Stabbing him seems to go right into his skin.