You Vs Villains II

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
What I think Newjak is trying to say is that once you're in her vicinity, in the area walking around that she'll see you and give you an ocular pat down. Like if she was in a donut shop and you walk through the door then her training will alert her to the door opening and just quickly seeing who's there and whatnot.

What I believe Delph is saying that it's unlikely for her to pinpoint him out when there's tons of civilians around and he's got the appearance and demeanor of just another ordinary guy. She doesn't know he wants to kill her, she doesn't know he's after her because there is no information on an immediate threat to her life.

Pretty much. I'm random Marvel civilian #5713 as far she is concerned. I just need to catch her slipping once and it's curtains. Particularly if this is a major city setting like New York, which is the likely location (most things Marvel being based in New York for some odd reason).

Originally posted by Newjak
Except that's what comic book characters like Black Widow do, they pick out threats from a faceless crowd like no one's business. As soon as you get 7-10 feet close to her she already knows you have a gun and plan on using it on her.

Not in this scenario. She's unaware per the OP.

That's the disconnect we're having here.

Originally posted by Newjak
What I'm saying is despite what Delph wants to believe picking out threats any situation despite the fact you think they shouldn't is what Black Widow does. She is constantly on hte lookout for trouble. Just because she doesn't know who you are doesn't mean she doesn't know whether you or not you a re potential threat. If you plan on harming her and don't have comic book skills she knows you;re threat, unless the OP throws a magic invisibility cloak over you that keeps her from seeing or thinking about you at all.

That's the only way you win in this scenario is if the OP is forcing the Black Widow not think and do what she does with everyone.

So I was right with what I believe you were saying? I'm not saying she's not going to notice the assailant I was just trying to clarify what you both were saying so I understood better. So if I'm right, by your logic and using the donut shop scenario again and she's there eating or net surfing. Door opens, couple walks in, young and in love, she watches the door and the customers through peripherals or something and deems them an average couple and goes back to her usual routine. Five minutes later, door opens again it's a single guy, he has a gun, so she notices the bulge, then pays more attention to his demeanor. He's not shaking or looking around nervously so it's not for protection and then it's to wonder if he's here to hold the place up, kill someone in here or if he's hiding etc? Like she does things like that?

The OP states NO SKILLS so I wouldn`t have a prayer at taking BW out with a gun or knife.

I think my best odds would be making a simple trap.. dropping a crate on someome tends to work in comics for some reason. Crates are not jobbers like bullets. Do it somewhere noisy and it miiight work. 😄

As he says that while he's listing what Bat-Mite starts you out with, I took it to mean you're not given any exta skills, not that your current skills are removed.

Originally posted by Placidity
You have NO skills.

Doesn`t get any clearer than this.

Like I said, As he says that while he's listing what Bat-Mite starts you out with, I took it to mean you're not given any exta skills, not that your current skills are removed.

And like I said, it really can`t get any clearer. "You have NO skills."

Originally posted by carver9
Don't know if anyone can make it past 1 unless you are a good sniper and learning how to snipe (being good at it) doesn't take a week to learn.

shrug I am...

Originally posted by -Pr-
shrug I am...

Hopefully he meant that it would take longer than a weak to become a good sniper.

However, this is carter we're talking about

Originally posted by Mshinu
And like I said, it really can`t get any clearer. "You have NO skills."

Everything from walking, controlling your bladder/bowels to driving etc are skills….I seriously doubt that the OP meant for us to use the 7 days of prep to relearn how to walk and not sh!t ourselves.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Everything from walking, controlling your bladder/bowels to driving etc are skills….I seriously doubt that the OP meant for us to use the 7 days of prep to relearn how to walk and not sh!t ourselves.

It is quite obvious what it means, you are just being silly now.

Originally posted by Mshinu
It is quite obvious what it means, you are just being silly now.

Like I said, Everything from walking, controlling your bladder/bowels to driving etc are skills….I seriously doubt that the OP meant for us to use the 7 days of prep to relearn how to walk and not sh!t ourselves.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Like I said, Everything from walking, controlling your bladder/bowels to driving etc are skills….I seriously doubt that the OP meant for us to use the 7 days of prep to relearn how to walk and not sh!t ourselves.

And like I said it is quite obvious what "You have NO skills" means and I am starting to think you are less than serious in your posts.

Originally posted by Mshinu
And like I said it is quite obvious what "You have NO skills" means and I am starting to think you are less than serious in your posts.

Sorry, but I disagree with your stance that the OP meant for us to use the 7 days of prep to relearn how to walk and not sh!t ourselves.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Sorry, but I disagree with your stance that the OP meant for us to use the 7 days of prep to relearn how to walk and not sh!t ourselves.

Your words (3 times over), not mine.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Hopefully he meant that it would take longer than a weak to become a good sniper.

However, this is carter we're talking about

Oh, I know that. I just remember it taking me longer too, is all.

Smh...

"No skills" as in not a skilled marksman or martial artist, you're just regular you with a gun, knives, and peak human physical attributes (granted by Batmite). A "peak human" Average Joe.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Your words (3 times over), not mine.

Your stance is that he meant to remove our already existing skills, so yes. Your stance is that the OP meant for us to use the 7 days of prep to relearn how to walk and not sh!t ourselves.

that "no skills" thing is actually a really weird stipulation...

I have a degree in psych, would I not be allowed to use whatever insight that might give me into BW's behaviour then?

not that it would change much, just wondering what the limit to "no skills" is