Originally posted by Oliver North
are there scans of BW having such a complex routine in her daily life?
Not that I'm aware of. then again whereabouts could mean anything from what city she's in to what house.....so I suppose the argument has some merit.
Even though not being able to even find BW seems to defeat the entire purpose of the thread.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Not that I'm aware of. then again whereabouts could mean anything from what city she's in to what house.....so I suppose the argument has some merit.
I agree, I'm just saying, people are suggesting she has a complex system of cameras and security systems that would prevent even watching her with a telescopic lens.
On the street, sure, it wont be easy to get her unawares, I just think the OP disadvantages her enough that it is ours to lose.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Even though not being able to even find BW seems to defeat the entire purpose of the thread.
ya, I certainly interpreted the OP as saying you knew her exact location and the 7 days prep was to try and find her routines.
Originally posted by Oliver North
no... it is like asking if there is evidence BW does these types of things at all...
I'm not as well read with BW as other people but the ones wherein I've read about her has her either in the Helicarrier or in deep cover missions or in Avengers mansion.
One has to provide scans of her even having a "normal" type routine/life.
But even then, we're talking about a different Black Widow who is living and (possibly) thriving in a different environment. As this BW has never existed in comics, no scans can ever be provided. Thus, it would have come down to making a few assumptions.
That or the OP has to clarify exactly how this BW has been able to survive/thrive in said environment.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I'm not as well read with BW as other people but the ones wherein I've read about her has her either in the Helicarrier or in deep cover missions or in Avengers mansion.One has to provide scans of her even having a "normal" type routine/life.
But even then, we're talking about a different Black Widow who is living and (possibly) thriving in a different environment. As this BW has never existed in comics, no scans can ever be provided. Thus, it would have come down to making a few assumptions.
That or the OP has to clarify exactly how this BW has been able to survive/thrive in said environment.
those are a number of interesting reasons why you shouldn't have to provide evidence to support your point.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Not that I'm aware of. then again whereabouts could mean anything from what city she's in to what house.....so I suppose the argument has some merit.Even though not being able to even find BW seems to defeat the entire purpose of the thread.
OP wasn't very clear about how detailed "knowing her whereabouts" would be.
Are you assuming that you'd be in the perfect spot to shoot someone at just the right time? Or are you assuming to shoot her thru a window or something. Please clarify exactly how you plan to accomplish this sniping plan of yours.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
This BW never existed in comics. You're asking for evidence that can't ever be provided?
by your definition, then, all of these scenarios are entirely unanswerable because we can't know anything about the characters, them being from an alternate reality existing only in this thread.
/thread I guess?
Originally posted by Oliver North
by your definition, then, all of these scenarios are entirely unanswerable because we can't know anything about the characters, them being from an alternate reality existing only in this thread./thread I guess?
We know powersets/skillsets of the target and we know the environment and we are given stipulations on what to do and a few info that'll help us out (such as location).
Everything else has to come down to making assumptions on what we might encounter.
"Knowing someone's whereabouts" was never mentioned as to be as detailed as a complete dossier of the person, pictures, routines, etc. A lot of times, it could be as simple as being given a name and address.
One can assume that a superspy living in a rather dangerous world would be vulnerable to any noob with a sniper rifle who gets her address. But I just happen to disagree.
Edit. Messed up on my typing, came out funny.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Well, I took the knowing her whereabouts to mean that I was given her location, at that point I'd use the 7 days for survalence and then set-up shop in a hotel room/building close to one of the places she visits and then wait.
And like I said, you'd be playing espionage against possibly one of the best spies in the business who's survived (and possibly thrive) in a world full of supervillains. Where you have no surveillance/espionage skills of your own and where your only advantage is surprise.
Again, I don't fancy your chances.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
We know powersets/skillsets of the target and we know the environment and we are given stipulations on what to do and a few info that'll help us out (such as location).Everything else has to come down to making assumptions on what we might encounter.
"Knowing someone's whereabouts" was never mentioned as to be as detailed as a complete dossier of the person, pictures, routines, etc. A lot of times, it could be as simple as being given a name and address.
One can assume that a superspy living in a rather dangerous world would be vulnerable to any noob with a sniper rifle who gets her address. But I just happen to disagree.
Edit. Messed up on my typing, came out funny.
or, we could follow standard forum procedure and use scans to determine how characters would behave, rather than our imaginations
Originally posted by Nibedicus
and where your only advantage is surprise.
you have to admit, that is a huge advantage though
Originally posted by Damborgson
yeah well, no one is killing Black Widow if she's operating the same as in a comic book. If it's a tad more realistic then someone can just be waiting on a rooftop with a sniper and end it.
Sniping someone isn't really that simple. You have to be at the perfect time/place to do it (know the target's routine, if any). You have to remain unseen else people might be calling the cops on you. You have to KNOW that you're shooting the right target (hard to do, especially in a crowd and most spies don'ty exactly paint a big bullseye on their hat) and you have to be shooting at a range where you'll know you'll hit cuz you'll most likely only have one shot.
I've never used a sniper rifle before, but handling an M-16 with a sniper scope, I gotta say it's hard to hit a stationary target with a big bullseye at about 50-60 yards (Granted, I'm a noob with a gun, but that's exactly what the OP stated we were.). We're talking about a moving target that you would possibly have to pick out in a crowd.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Sniping someone isn't really that simple. You have to be at the perfect time/place to do it (know the target's routine, if any). You have to remain unseen else people might be calling the cops on you. You have to KNOW that you're shooting the right target (hard to do, especially in a crowd and most spies don'ty exactly paint a big bullseye on their hat) and you have to be shooting at a range where you'll know you'll hit cuz you'll most likely only have one shot.I've never used a sniper rifle before, but handling an M-16 with a sniper scope, I gotta say it's hard to hit a stationary target with a big bullseye at about 50-60 yards (Granted, I'm a noob with a gun, but that's exactly what the OP stated we were.). We're talking about a moving target that you would possibly have to pick out in a crowd.
I do know her routine as stated in the OP I guess. Guess I'm just a stalker like that. It's a world of villains, I wouldn't think there are cops.
I'd have to pick a time when she's solo. She's not going to be in a crowd all the time. I'm a decent shot, but nothing special. I can hit 40+ yard stationary targets with my arisaka type 30 though lol. That's something I guess. I'd have to practice up that's for sure.