Originally posted by Nibedicus
And like I said, you'd be playing espionage against possibly one of the best spies in the business who's survived (and possibly thrive) in a world full of supervillains. Where you have no surveillance/espionage skills of your own and where your only advantage is surprise.Again, I don't fancy your chances.
I'd being using my prep time for the surveillance, which means per the OP she doesn't notice. and as I'd be in position before the match starts, BW wouldn't ever have a chance to see me...unless I missed something and current Black Widow has x-ray vision.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I'd being using my prep time for the surveillance, which means per the OP she doesn't notice. and as I'd be in position before the match starts, BW wouldn't ever have a chance to see me...unless I missed something and current Black Widow has x-ray vision.
Disagree.
This is the EXACT OP as written:
Originally posted by Placidity
Black Widow. This is not a "fight". She is going about her normal life, and is unaware you are wanting to kill her. You know her whereabouts - hunt her down and take her out.You have 7 days (prep included) to do it.
Unless I'm interpreting it wrong, it means that she doesn't know you want to kill her and you are given her whereabouts. THEN you hunt her down and take her out. Means that other than some info on her location and her being unaware of you at the start, you have to gather the rest of the info yourself (such as routines) w/in a 7 day period.
There is no "magic period" of prep wherein you are allowed to spy on her w/o her ever finding out that you are.
Originally posted by Damborgson
I do know her routine as stated in the OP I guess. Guess I'm just a stalker like that. It's a world of villains, I wouldn't think there are cops.I'd have to pick a time when she's solo. She's not going to be in a crowd all the time. I'm a decent shot, but nothing special. I can hit 40+ yard stationary targets with my arisaka type 30 though lol. That's something I guess. I'd have to practice up that's for sure.
There need not be any cops in a world full of villains, they could just be all corrupt or just be working for the villains or are just too cowed to do anything against said villains (but would just LOVE to take down some guy with a sniper rifle shooting at random civilians).
OP actually simply states "whereabouts". My assumptions would be an address and name. Even mentions that you have to "hunt her down".
These are huge assumptions to make when dealing with a super spy tho. Any spy (especially some1 who doesn't wear a mask all the time like BW does) would no doubt change their appearance at the very least (that is unless we're talking about a VERY inept super spy here).
Originally posted by Silent Master
Like I said earlier; I have a 50/50 chance, either I'll hit her with the first shot, or she'll kill me.
No, I'd say much much less than that.
Things to consider:
1) you have to be in the perfect place to shoot her, meaning you need to know where she'll be best found and at what time. knowing where she lives and then renting an adjacent hotel room isn't enough as many places have alternative exits.
2) you're not going to be on a perch with a rifle aimed out the window at all times, you'll be spotted by BW or by the cops or by some random civilian. You'll no doubt have to wait her out in the hotel window with a pair of telescopes thru some blinds. Something you might need to do for HOURS OR DAYS. With no one there to help you out when you go out to eat, take a pee, rest your eyes or sleep, you have a good chance of missing her altogether. And even IF you DO spot her, chances are you're already exhausted by the long stakeout that you had to undertake that your accuracy will do doubt suffer as you'll probably be doing this alone.
3) You're assuming that she'd be easy to pick out in a crowd and not (at the very least) wearing a hat/shades/wig. Meaning you're assuming her to be quite the inept superspy. You see, you have to CONFIRM that you're shooting the correct target before pulling the trigger else you'll end up shooting some poor schmoe.
4) Do ALL THIS w/o her (a superspy in a dangerous world full of supervillains) noticing.
No, not a 50/50 chance at all.
Originally posted by Oliver North
or, we could follow standard forum procedure and use scans to determine how characters would behave, rather than our imaginations
Ok, then provide scans of the current comic BW real life wherein she is totally vulnerable to some random noob with a sniper rifle.
Originally posted by Oliver North
you have to admit, that is a huge advantage though
Sure. But, I disagree about it being enough to circumvent her HUGE advantage in years of experience, training and skills in espionage and assassination.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Either I'll hit her or I won't, those are the only two options. thus 50/50.
You have to be in the right place at the right time withing the right conditions so I say not really.
Originally posted by Silent Master
BTW, why would I have my rifle hanging out of the window?
Kindly point out where I said that or are you simply speed reading thru what I post?
Originally posted by Nibedicus
No, I'd say much much less than that. No, not a 50/50 chance at all.
I don't think you realize that you're talking about the mutha ****in' Marwash. He doesn't need a gun. He walks up on her in the crowded streets and back hands the ho in front of everybody. It will be instant death and nobody will talk to the cops out of respect for the Marwash.
Originally posted by Silent Master
She doesn't know that anyone is after her, that means she has zero reason to remain holed up in her house/apt/bunker 24/7, that means in 7 days I should have several chances to pick from.
You're assuming that you'll spot her JUST as she's exiting her apartment/home/etc and be able to easily identify her via a telescope or that she'd have some sort of established routine that you'll be able to monitor w/in your first day stalking her.
None of these are easy to do, especially within a short period of time as she'll no doubt notice some noob in a hotel room with a telescope that seems to be peaking out if you're too close. At long range, it's hard to be able to pick her out if she slips in and out of a crowd wearing a hat and shades
Seriously, people are assuming that a super spy that exists in an extremely more dangerous world would be completely and totally inept. IF this BW behaves the way people are trying to make her look, you wouldn't need to kill her, she'd have been dead LONG before Batmite decided to have you kill her.
As I have 7 days, why wouldn't I spot her a couple times if I know where she lives? she is hardly going to be sneaking out windows or sneaking out the back and jumping several fences to get to a car she parked .5 miles away every time she leaves as that would draw attention from all her neighbors.
She'll be trying to blend in, which means acting like a normal person as much as possible.