Thor and Hulk during that time haven't fought yet, right? Hulk/Banner is unsure of Thor strength, so he is unable to determine if he is stronger than Thor. The only thing he can base this off of is the lifting of Mjlonir and that is something he failed at lifting. So I can see why he is doubting himself.
Originally posted by carver9
Thor and Hulk during that time haven't fought yet, right? Hulk/Banner is unsure of Thor strength, so he is unable to determine if he is stronger than Thor. The only thing he can base this off of is the lifting of Mjlonir and that is something he failed at lifting. So I can see why he is doubting himself.
That Thor hadn't yet met the Hulk prior to his arrival in Asgard, but that is current Banner/Hulk.
Funny how Thor makes a comment under the writer penning his ongoing series/mini-series event stating "I could never beat you, Hulk" and Banner underneath a writer of a Hulk ongoing series states it's an eternal debate over who's stronger between Hulk and Thor.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankAwesome if you ask me. Their rivalry is greater than Superman and Captain marvel and I like it.
That Thor hadn't yet met the Hulk prior to his arrival in Asgard, but that is current Banner/Hulk.Funny how Thor makes a comment under the writer penning his ongoing series/mini-series event stating "I could never beat you, Hulk" and Banner underneath a writer of a Hulk ongoing series states it's an eternal debate over who's stronger between Hulk and Thor.
Here is to Superman and Marvel having a rivalry as intense in New52(not gonna happen)
Hulk and Thor's rivalry is so good because they actually have decisive wins and loses. Supes and Marvel just stalemate all the fkn time and it sucks.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankFunny how Thor makes a comment under the writer penning his ongoing series/mini-series event stating "I could never beat you, Hulk" and Banner underneath a writer of a Hulk ongoing series states it's an eternal debate over who's stronger between Hulk and Thor.
And then you have battle boards. Where Hulk is far stronger than Thor and Superman is apparently 4x stronger then Thor. In fact, Thor is closer to Wonder Woman than to Hulk or Supes 😱
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
a writer of a Hulk ongoing series states it's an eternal debate over who's stronger between Hulk and Thor.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Awesome if you ask me. Their rivalry is greater than Superman and Captain marvel and I like it.Here is to Superman and Marvel having a rivalry as intense in New52(not gonna happen)
Hulk and Thor's rivalry is so good because they actually have decisive wins and loses. Supes and Marvel just stalemate all the fkn time and it sucks.
I think the reason why that is is because Hulk and Thor legitimately don't really like each other. Actually, I think as far as current comics go, this is them probably on the best terms with one another as they have ever been.
Superman and Cap/Shazam genuinely do like and respect the other and only really get into it when mind control is involved. I do hope Johns either gives us a real fight with a winner or at least makes their stalemate/dubious ending well written.
Originally posted by dmills
And then you have battle boards. Where Hulk is far stronger than Thor and Superman is apparently 4x stronger then Thor. In fact, Thor is closer to Wonder Woman than to Hulk or Supes 😱
lol, right?
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Yup. That very clearly is a reference to the contests the 2 have had in the past, and it reflects Marvel's [b]actual opinion on the matter, not that of fanboy-fueled crap we got in Fear Itself and LTBB. [/B]
Personally, I take both Thor's comment in Fear Itself and Banner's comment here with grains of salt; Thor has beaten Hulk in the past and I do believe that Hulk is stronger than Thor, but yes, the statement is intended to be Marvel's "official" opinion between the two, ie. who would win in a fight.
Of course, someone will come around and dismiss Banner as being too humble or dumb (which is anything but the case in recent times considering Banner is actually kind of an egomaniac with feats to back it up) or state that one comment is more "right" than the other.
In fact, I'm counting on Banner's statement being tossed out and dismissed by the usual parties.
http://s980.photobucket.com/user/ankur2292/media/IncredibleHulk611005.jpg.html
Since we are accepting statements in comics, I guess we can finally agree, WWH>>>>Thor and avengers.?
People don't realize that Savage Hulk's strength in comics was variable. That means he was operating from a little over hundreds to billions of tons. That is why Ben, Colossus, Rhino, Thing, Thor, etc. could match him for a while.
In a forum Hulk has high herald level strength (at least tens of thousands of tons) but in a comic (where people are referencing) he does not always have this level of strength.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I think the reason why that is is because Hulk and Thor legitimately don't really like each other. Actually, I think as far as current comics go, this is them probably on the best terms with one another as they have ever been.Superman and Cap/Shazam genuinely do like and respect the other and only really get into it when mind control is involved. I do hope Johns either gives us a real fight with a winner or at least makes their stalemate/dubious ending well written.
lol, right?
Personally, I take both Thor's comment in Fear Itself and Banner's comment here with grains of salt; Thor has beaten Hulk in the past and I do believe that Hulk is stronger than Thor, but yes, the statement is intended to be Marvel's "official" opinion between the two, ie. who would win in a fight.
Of course, someone will come around and dismiss Banner as being too humble or dumb (which is anything but the case in recent times considering Banner is actually kind of an egomaniac with feats to back it up) or state that one comment is more "right" than the other.
In fact, I'm counting on Banner's statement being tossed out and dismissed by the usual parties.
Thor 385 IMO is the definitive fight between the two and the answer as to how they relate to one another physically. Barring shit like warrior madness etc.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
There are battleboards where Wonder Woman is considered much stronger than Thor.
In a "feats only" oriented forum you could prolly make the case. But then again in you could argue all sorts of idiocy in a "feats only" setting.
Originally posted by carver9
There are a lot of people here (mainly new members) that thinks Wonder Woman is much stronger than Thor.
Well let me see.
WW has the strength from Gaia which iirc was documented to be greater than that of heracles (Hercules).
So IF Hercules marvel is remotely close to Hercules D.C. in strength AND Thor is remotely close to Hercules Marvel in strength then WW should be stronger than Thor by the above.
As far as feats Diana has feats that can match anything Thor has done strengthwise. Thus by feats she is not weaker.
Originally posted by h1a8
Well let me see.
WW has the strength from Gaia which iirc was documented to be greater than that of heracles (Hercules).So IF Hercules marvel is remotely close to Hercules D.C. in strength AND Thor is remotely close to Hercules Marvel in strength then WW should be stronger than Thor by the above.
What the f*ck?
That logic man.
Seriously, what the f*ck? I sincerely hope you're trolling and don't legitimately reach conclusions with leaps like that, although that does explain a lot.
Originally posted by carver9
http://s980.photobucket.com/user/ankur2292/media/IncredibleHulk611005.jpg.htmlSince we are accepting statements in comics, I guess we can finally agree, WWH>>>>Thor and avengers.?
Lol?
You are the one bringing up statements when they suit you (Like that scan) and dismissing them when they don't. If anyone needs to come to a conclusion on their stance, it is you
Originally posted by abhilegend
This was the scan you used to "prove" that Thor stalemated hulk twice in that stance on ICT, right?Thor is weaker than Rhino btw. An hour? Talk about days of constant fight while hulk was in "save betty" mode.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsRhino14.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsRhino15.jpgThat's just two years before Defenders 10 btw.
hmm
Why are you bringing up the Rhino?
What does he have to do in a Thor vs. Black Adam thread? Because he somehow had a high end showing, that in turn devaluates a good showing of Thor?
So I can, I don't know, mention a time when Power Girl was completely worthless and point out how Black Adam isn't impressive manhandling her now?
This lowballing on your part is ridiculous. You aren't even referencing the same story-arc but shit by your own admission is years apart.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What the f*ck?That logic man.
Seriously, what the f*ck? I sincerely hope you're trolling and don't legitimately reach conclusions with leaps like that, although that does explain a lot.
It was a deductive argument. If the premises are true then the conclusion is necessarily true.
Reread the second part again. You will see a classic deductive 'if then' statement.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol?You are the one bringing up statements when they suit you (Like that scan) and dismissing them when they don't. If anyone needs to come to a conclusion on their stance, it is you
Never argued against Thor strength. I am one of the peeps that said Thor strength is on Superman and Hulks level because it is. Now a angry Savage Hulk, that's a different story.
