Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How do you think that post makes any sense? If deflecting a ball and chain hurt his arm, blows that he would usually shrug off fractured bone, what do you think would happen if he hit something with all his might? His arm would shatter under the pressure.Here it was said Thor could call upon every ounce of his strength:
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/LiftsMidgardSerpent1.jpg.htmlNow I know you didn't know of this scan but I'm not one for leaving out evidence but I think that refers only to what is available to him.
It was said his strength was diminished in the Olympus arc (Don't have that scan) and the Midgard Serpent straight up said he was a mere shadow of his former glory:
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/LiftsMidgardSerpent4.jpg.htmlHe later again mentions Thor's diminished power and even directly references strength:
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsMidgardSerpent17.jpg.htmlHe even says that to go all-out would destroy Thor's own fragile body, armor or not.
If this isn't enough evidence for you, then I give up.
Yeah, that's pretty phucking clear.
Originally posted by -Pr-
You just hate women that aren't Lois, don't you.
Originally posted by dmills
Yeah, that's pretty phucking clear.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I know of all of them. Thor was healed by Hela just before that fight before in Thor 382.
http://marvel.wikia.com/Thor_Vol_1_382WCA annual happened one month after that.
http://marvel.wikia.com/West_Coast_Avengers_Annual_Vol_1_2
Nice try.
What do you mean nice try? I don't give a shit whether or not Thor was afflicted by Hela's curse during his fight with Wonder Man. For all I know Englehart thought Simon was ten times as strong as Thor. You trying to bring him up to try and demean Thor (With an incredibly inconclusive scene I might add) is laughable, it's like me pointing to Captain Nazi giving Adam so much trouble he had to resort to a lightning bolt.
What I do think is relevant is you straight up saying the curse did not weaken Thor's might then backtracking to try and cover your ass:
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor's strength was intact. There was no mention of him being weaker than usual.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That only proves hulk was amping very slowly and was still just as strong as thor. Thor stalemated a thor level hulk, awesome!
Originally posted by abhilegend
So, either hulk was amping too slowly or thor has a dynamic strength too. Or do you think that hulk was already thor's level and was getting vastly stronger but thor could stalemate with his original strength while being vastly weaker? You can't have it both ways.
I like how he's so adamant against the idea because Thor doesn't have an S on his chest.
There's nothing really difficult to understand about either the Thor/Hulk feat or Thor's brittle bones due to Hela's curse quite obviously effecting his physical strength.
Thor matched Hulk's strength for hours on end, who was angry (obviously) and whose strength increases with anger (obviously). Either Thor's baseline strength is equal to a sufficiently pissed off Hulk (who is top tier in strength) or Thor has reserves to fall back on to match Hulk's increased strength, which logically would have climbed quite high after hours of not "being the strongest there is" when it comes to Thor, who Hulk very obviously has a strong rivalry with and a desire to prove to be better.
As far as the curse goes, in what world does being afflicted with brittle and frail bones not effect how strong you are?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusLying about the condition thor was in.
What do you mean nice try?
I don't give a shit whether or not Thor was afflicted by Hela's curse during his fight with Wonder Man.Of course you don't. You are a thorbag.
For all I know Englehart thought Simon was ten times as strong as Thor.Haha.
You trying to bring him up to try and demean Thor (With an incredibly inconclusive scene I might add) is laughable, it's like me pointing to Captain Nazi giving Adam so much trouble he had to resort to a lightning bolt.If you can't figure out the difference between a peer overpowering a peer and an outlier showing from a very low level character, I don't know what to say to you. I wasn't trying to demean Thor here, I'm just trying to make a hierarchy of Englehart's characters.
What I do think is relevant is you straight up saying the curse did not weaken Thor's might then backtracking to try and cover your ass:What I think about you bringing up an entirely irrelevant condition to save your and thor's ass.
When it clearly did. You can come to any stupid conclusions that you want, just don't lie about whats on panel.Its irrelevant to this whole discussion.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I like how he's so adamant against the idea because Thor doesn't have an S on his chest.
Thor is weaker than Rhino btw. An hour? Talk about days of constant fight while hulk was in "save betty" mode.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsRhino14.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsRhino15.jpg
That's just two years before Defenders 10 btw.
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