Originally posted by Damborgsonthor has exotic powers were as hulk uses pure strength.
That doesn't prove a 10X amp. Thor after getting rocked by Kurse proceeded to slap him around after. He must've increased his strength 8x over.
Also it was stated by hulk that he became 10x stronger, not just something i thought happened
Originally posted by deathlifeIn other news, the sky is blue.
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Thor is stronger than Wonder man.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not the way you describe it. Hulk didn't get very strong when he was angry under Englehart. Hulk was class 90 at calm state in those days. Only an angry hulk was class 100.It wasn't a cheap shot. Simon directly overpowered thor.
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That's what define characters in superman class. Wait till you see superman twoshotting a creature with the powers of superman, captain marvel, j'onn, aquaman and elongated man.
Not true either.
In a handbook. Lol. Did you know Odin is class 65?
The wrecker most certainly did cheap shot Hulk. That was the point.
That Thor was weakened anyway. The beard was to hide the scar he had on his face that wouldn't heal from Hela's curse iirc.
Even if that weren't the case, so what? It was a good showing for Simon who was then one shot. Yipee.
That feat defines Thor well also. It goes both ways.
Yes it is. That's not something someone can sanely disagree with lol.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Do you have ANYTHING of value to said or just randomly shout lowballing?
And..
Originally posted by JakeTheBank...anyway
Simon isn't stronger than Thor. Simon pushing Thor away from him doesn't equate to him "overpowering" Thor.
Originally posted by curryman
That's great.Glad we're only following one writer's 3-4 year run and letting that determine just about everything in regards to Thor's 50 years.
Originally posted by deathlife
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Thor is stronger than Wonder man.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Simon isn't stronger than Thor. Simon pushing Thor away from him doesn't equate to him "overpowering" Thor.
Originally posted by DamborgsonNot from a handbook. Hulk was given a drug that made him unable to get angry and he stalemated a class 90 being.
In a handbook. Lol. Did you know Odin is class 65?The wrecker most certainly did cheap shot Hulk. That was the point.
That Thor was weakened anyway. The beard was to hide the scar he had on his face that wouldn't heal from Hela's curse iirc.
Even if that weren't the case, so what? It was a good showing for Simon who was then one shot. Yipee.
That feat defines Thor well also. It goes both ways.
Yes it is. That's not something someone can sanely disagree with lol.
Wrecker most certainly didn't cheapshot hulk. Gimme a minute.
Excuses, excuses and more excuses. Thor wasn't weakened, his bones were brittle. Also Thor using mjolnir to oneshot simon means nothing in comparison to strength level.
Ok.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17This is like accusing somebody of lowballing superman if he says Alex Ross portrayed Cap as more powerful than him. Shut up.
da fuk? u've been known to pick and choose what suits ure argument. Pretty sure ure quite aware of those scans from Deathlife since I know how u love to scour for scans over the internet (for lowballing purposes of course).And..
...anyway
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not from a handbook. Hulk was given a drug that made him unable to get angry and he stalemated a class 90 being.Wrecker most certainly didn't cheapshot hulk. Gimme a minute.
Excuses, excuses and more excuses. Thor wasn't weakened, his bones were brittle. Also Thor using mjolnir to oneshot simon means nothing in comparison to strength level.
Ok.
That classification is handbook. And even then, he was plenty angry against Thor.
That's a cheap shot. He got slammed before he even had any idea a fight was going to happen, which makes a tremendous difference in a fight.
It's context really, not excuses. That's a form weakness. 😬 Brittle bones don't give the same strength and he couldn't heal in addition to that iirc. I might be getting my arcs mixed up.
Originally posted by Damborgson
That classification is handbook. And even then, he was plenty angry against Thor.That's a cheap shot. He got slammed before he even had any idea a fight was going to happen, which makes a tremendous difference in a fight.
It's context really, not excuses. That's a form weakness. 😬 Brittle bones don't give the same strength and he couldn't heal in addition to that iirc. I might be getting my arcs mixed up.
That's nnt a cheap shot dambo.
Thor's strength was intact. There was no mention of him being weaker than usual.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Actually savage hulk is class 70 by handbooks in calm state. I'm talking from an on panel description.That's nnt a cheap shot dambo.
Thor's strength was intact. There was no mention of him being weaker than usual.
In some. Handbooks have always been all over the place.
Abhi, yes it is. Facing the Wrecker still qualifies as a cheap shot under the circumstances..
There doesn't have to be though really. It's part of the weakness afflicting him.
So do we agree that Thor got a hell of a strength feat by matching Hulk's increasing strength for an hour, or shall we go our separate ways with the subject?
Originally posted by DamborgsonI'm sure no handbook listed hulk as 90 tonner.
In some. Handbooks have always been all over the place.Abhi, yes it is. Facing the Wrecker still qualifies as a cheap shot under the circumstances..
There doesn't have to be though really. It's part of the weakness afflicting him.
So do we agree that Thor got a hell of a strength feat by matching Hulk's increasing strength for an hour, or shall we go our separate ways with the subject?
No, it isn't. Wrecker announced he was attacking defenders and attacks in front of hulk.
Not really. Thor's bones were brittle, his strength was intact.
Its a hell of a strength feat but as per Englehart's writing there is little evidence that hulk was past Thor when they were seperated. Englehart recently stated that when he wrote that scene, he didn't have the dynamic nature of hulk's strength in mind or something like that.
@bran, that was indeed a cheapshot.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm sure no handbook listed hulk as 90 tonner.No, it isn't. Wrecker announced he was attacking defenders and attacks in front of hulk.
Not really. Thor's bones were brittle, his strength was intact.
Its a hell of a strength feat but as per Englehart's writing there is little evidence that hulk was past Thor when they were seperated. Englehart recently stated that when he wrote that scene, he didn't have the dynamic nature of hulk's strength in mind or something like that.
@bran, that was indeed a cheapshot.
Ever? Bold. Wish I had the scans on hand to show you in a calm state he was in the 90ish range back in the day.
so? If someone says to you "Time to kick your ass!" while you were previously being helped by them, you're still off guard and still not ready for combat. Just like Hulk was.
Brittle bones =/= intact strength. They go along with each other.
👆 sure was
Link?
It's hulk's powerset though. The madder he gets, the stronger he gets. That doesn't get to go away.
That's no cheap shot if Hulk's scene wasn't a cheap shot.
Originally posted by DamborgsonOk. I'll wait.
Ever? Bold. Wish I had the scans on hand to show you in a calm state he was in the 90ish range back in the day.so? If someone says to you "Time to kick your ass!" while you were previously being helped by them, you're still off guard and still not ready for combat. Just like Hulk was.
Brittle bones =/= intact strength. They go along with each other.
👆 sure was
Link?
It's hulk's powerset though. The madder he gets, the stronger he gets. That doesn't get to go away.
That's no cheap shot if Hulk's scene wasn't a cheap shot.
Hulk had time to adjust. 10 seconds is quite a large gape in a fight. Thor snuck up on abom IIRC.
Not quite. Thor's strength was intact as noted against Blockbuster.
All that scene suggest that hulk started weaker than thor and even after an hour of amping didn't got past thor in strength if we take your stance. Its not that uncommon for hulk to amp extremly slowly. Rhino stalemated him for days in a fist fight while hulk was getting angry. Doc Samson fought Mindless Hulk for six hours straight while hulk was getting stronger.
I would look for Englehart interview.
