Star Trek reboot vs. Star Trek original

Started by quanchi11223 pages

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
You clearly know nothing about Data. He's a lot faster than Spock.

I would post videos. They're just hard to find. But anyone whose watched the Next Gen series knows this.

This is movies only so quit arguing against the rules. Please. Faster than original Spock but not this Spock in combat based off the movies.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Who?
Spoiler:
Khan
? You think he's that much more impressive than Data?

He was pwning an inferior Starfleet in a less advanced timeline. I don't see them standing up to a well coordinated Starfleet assault like in First Contact with much more impressive weaponry than the Starfleet in the 2009 film showed.

There's also the fact that the Borg adapt rather quickly to new types of attacks, so I doubt it would take them long to figure out a way to counteract Nero's goodies.

the originals clearly win this

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is movies only so quit arguing against the rules. Please.

So what? The Next Gen series and movies are in the same continuity. It's not like they're different characters with different power sets.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
So what? The Next Gen series and movies are in the same continuity. It's not like they're different characters with different power sets.
It is against the rules and gives the originals multiple seasons on top of 5 times the movies. Lol. Reboot wins, superior showings on screen. some random ignored feat from the tv series isn't going to change this anyway.

Unless Into Darkness has some sort of uber ship that can't be destroyed, this is pretty much a spite thread against the Reboot.

They're a century behind tech wise (bar the Narada, and that isn't beating a borg cube), and their best weapon, red matter, is horribly unsuited to combat situations.

So yeah, unless Into Darkness can shift the tide somehow, they get wiped out. Hard too.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Unless Into Darkness has some sort of uber ship that can't be destroyed, this is pretty much a spite thread against the Reboot.

They're a century behind tech wise (bar the Narada, and that isn't beating a borg cube), and their best weapon, red matter, is horribly unsuited to combat situations.

So yeah, unless Into Darkness can shift the tide somehow, they get wiped out. Hard too.

You can't say due to not seeing the 2nd out of two movies.

I accounted for it in my post, actually. So yes, I can, and I did.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I accounted for it in my post, actually. So yes, I can, and I did.
You can do whatever you want but without seeing 1 of 2 movies against ten it isn't saying much. What is stopping you from seeing the movie ? I saw it midnight when it came out.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, I had against the pathetic Borg. Awful all the way around.

Wrong.

Incorrect again.

Non sequitur, we're talking about Data. But you also know little about the Borg as well 🙂

Tell me, which movie did Data go bad-ass then? 🙂 (google time)

Still haven't figured out what The Scimitar is then. Can't even google search well while lying 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
You can do whatever you want but without seeing 1 of 2 movies against ten it isn't saying much. What is stopping you from seeing the movie ? I saw it midnight when it came out.

I accounted for the first movie, and admitted that the second one can possibly swing it if it has some sort of uber vessel. Does it? I've seen more of the originals than you have, so i'd say we're about even anyway.

Money. I'd have seen it opening night if i'd had the disposable income. Right now I'm trying to make sure I have a place to sleep and food to eat.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I accounted for the first movie, and admitted that the second one can possibly swing it if it has some sort of uber vessel. Does it? I've seen more of the originals than you have, so i'd say we're about even anyway.

Money. I'd have seen it opening night if i'd had the disposable income. Right now I'm trying to make sure I have a place to sleep and food to eat.

Stop listening to Quanchi's arguments from ignorance.

We're dealing with 23rd century tech here still, nothing that can take on likes of The Borg, The Scimitar or even the Enterprise E. Could even argue a single Defiant Class might be enough.

Originally posted by Robtard
Non sequitur, we're talking about Data. But you also know little about the Borg as well 🙂

Tell me, which movie did Data go bad-ass then? 🙂 (google time)

Still haven't figured out what The Scimitar is then. Can't even google search well while lying 🙂

Both were equally pathetic in the film. Borg Quuen was awful.

He never went badass. Trick question.

Some overhyped cloaked ship which Trekkies cling to. 😂

Originally posted by -Pr-
I accounted for the first movie, and admitted that the second one can possibly swing it if it has some sort of uber vessel. Does it? I've seen more of the originals than you have, so i'd say we're about even anyway.

Money. I'd have seen it opening night if i'd had the disposable income. Right now I'm trying to make sure I have a place to sleep and food to eat.

I've seen all of the originals. Although I wish I hadn't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I've seen all of the originals. Although I wish I hadn't.

I don't believe you, tbh.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't believe you, tbh.
I don't care. It's true. You didn't see the sequel so you don't really know.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't care. It's true. You didn't see the sequel so you don't really know.

I know how capable the ships in the first movie were. And how powerful the original universe ships are. so i'd say i'm actually ahead when it comes to total knowledge.

Feel free to continue dodging the question, though. I'm sure there's some wonderfully powerful ship in the sequel that will tip the balance, otherwise you wouldn't keep arguing that the reboot ships could possibly win, right?

Nothing in the first movie could win this, so there must be something else.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Both were equally pathetic in the film. Borg Quuen was awful.

He never went badass. Trick question.

Some overhyped cloaked ship which Trekkies cling to. 😂

Downplay tactics for Data and the Borg.

Incorrect. You don't know which film, since you've not seen any of the OS and TNG ones.

I see you finally googled The Scimitar and gleaned it can cloak and are now employing downplay tactics 🙂

How can the word trekkie be thrown around in a thread about people arguing about which star trek movies have better ships/characters? 😑

Originally posted by -Pr-
I know how capable the ships in the first movie were. And how powerful the original universe ships are. so i'd say i'm actually ahead when it comes to total knowledge.

Feel free to continue dodging the question, though. I'm sure there's some wonderfully powerful ship in the sequel that will tip the balance, otherwise you wouldn't keep arguing that the reboot ships could possibly win, right?

Nothing in the first movie could win this, so there must be something else.

There is nothing in the 2nd movie that would tip the balance, that is why quan refuses to post feats.