Khan vs. Darth Vader (pre suit)

Started by quanchi11288 pages

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
He is superior both physically snd mentally, but his tech isn't leaps and bounds ahead of blasters and he isn't wearing armor. If he can't get him from afar and can't get close, how's he gonna win?
its bigger and wider thus Vader can't block it. He does get him from afar. He would crush him in close combat minus a saber. Far stronger, can regenerate, and highly trained.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What ? He was blowing away multiple Klingons away as well as the ships. Easily took out Spocks gun as he had it aimed on him before he could react. Only you would say he Wasnt skilled. 😆

Show me a screen feat to support the evasive tactic you are arguing for. Quit just making things up. 😂

So what I said, his aim isn't some insanely great thing and you wank. Are you talking about the grabbing Spock's gun when Spock wasn't trying to kill him? That's not an aiming feat. Think, man. Think.

Been shown and you ignore or downplay. Force users have Force speed. Dodging and downplay, it's all you have here.

Originally posted by Robtard
So what I said, his aim isn't some insanely great thing and you wank. Are you talking about the grabbing Spock's gun when Spock wasn't trying to kill him? That's not an aiming feat. Think, man. Think.

Been shown and you ignore or downplay. Force users have Force speed. Dodging and downplay, it's all you have here.

His aim is accurate as shit. But Anakin deflects shitty droid fire. Lol. Biased. Fair weather Star Trek fan.

He didn't grab it he shot it out of his hand.

Show me the feat dome by Vader. Fanboyism is showing qui and Obi running down a hallway and ignoring how they fight 100 percent of the time.

Fanboys cling to noncombat feats and ignore how they actually fight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His aim is accurate as shit. But Anakin deflects shitty droid fire. Lol. Biased. Fair weather Star Trek fan.

He didn't grab it he shot it out of his hand.

Show me the feat dome by Vader. Fanboyism is showing qui and Obi running down a hallway and ignoring how they fight 100 percent of the time.

Fanboys cling to noncombat feats and ignore how they actually fight.

Yeah, what I said before. You're pretending he's Swagger, he's good, but stop wanking. Any shot Anakin deflects would be a shot that would have hit, unless you're suggesting Anakin goes out of his way to move into shots that would have missed? You still don't understand what a "fair weather fan" implies.

I'll have to check when I get home; but iirc, it was a close range shot.

Back to that same clown tactic eh? "Jedi can only use their powers in the exact same scenario". Cry more, bandwagon-boi. "I hate Star Trek" *movies to well* "I love Star Trek!"

Khan punches the lightsaber through Anakin's face.

khan is super intelligent so he somehow gains all force knowledge and becomes like 5x more powerful than vader cuz you know its obvious since he's superhuman and soooo handsome...i mean "AWESOME"!.

Originally posted by Mindset
Khan punches the lightsaber through Anakin's face.

A better argument than Quanchi's made in 25 pages.

So I'll give you an 👆 on that merit alone.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, what I said before. You're pretending he's Swagger, he's good, but stop wanking. Any shot Anakin deflects would be a shot that would have hit, unless you're suggesting Anakin goes out of his way to move into shots that would have missed? You still don't understand what a "fair weather fan" implies.

I'll have to check when I get home; but iirc, it was a close range shot.

Back to that same clown tactic eh? "Jedi can only use their powers in the exact same scenario". Cry more, bandwagon-boi. "I hate Star Trek" *movies to well* "I love Star Trek!"

When has Khan missed his target ? So the droids can shoot accurately but not a Khan ? Awful.

You said he grabbed the gun now are saying it is a shot. Just say you were wrong. He shot the gun out of his hand despite having Spocks gun aimed at him faster than Spock can react.

You can't even give an example and we have plenty of scenes to choose from. That's bias.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When has Khan missed his target ?

So the droids can shoot accurately but not a Khan ? Awful.

You said he grabbed the gun now are saying it is a shot. Just say you were wrong. He shot the gun out of his hand despite having Spocks gun aimed at him faster than Spock can react.

You can't even give an example and we have plenty of scenes to choose from. That's bias.

Klingon fight scene, when he was spraying he wasn't hitting all the Klingon's and the one he killed that was about to kill Ohuru, he missed first and his second shot killed the Klingon. Khan was badass there, but stop with your "HE NEVER MISSES!!!11" wanks.

Another strawman, you do these when you can't counter the actual point.

I was wrong about the grab, I was thinking of the end-fight second where Khan kicked the gun away. Khan did shoot Spock's rifle from out his hand, Khan was also about 15 feet away and Spock wasn't trying to shoot him as he repeatedly asked Khan to "stand down", so you're wanking and making it seem like it was a long distance shot and that Khan was "too fast for Spock to react to". Khan's badass, but stop wanking.

I love destroying your wrong arguments with screen caps 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
Klingon fight scene, when he was spraying he wasn't hitting all the Klingon's and the one he killed that was about to kill Ohuru, he missed first and his second shot killed the Klingon. Khan was badass there, but stop with your "HE NEVER MISSES!!!11" wanks.

Another strawman, you do these when you can't counter the actual point.

I was wrong about the grab, I was thinking of the end-fight second where Khan kicked the gun away. Khan did shoot Spock's rifle from out his hand, Khan was also about 15 feet away and Spock wasn't trying to shoot him as he repeatedly asked Khan to "stand down", so you're wanking and making it seem like it was a long distance shot and that Khan was "too fast for Spock to react to". Khan's badass, but stop wanking.

I love destroying your wrong arguments with screen caps 🙂

I still don't see him missing. Sorry, but your screen caps are blurry and unable to see properly.

Who is the most skilled opponent Anakin has blocked blaster fire from ? Droids isn't impressive.

So you were wrong when you said he grabbed the gun. Idiot. Spock still had it aimed and Khan shot it accurately out of his hand before he could fire just as I said.

Your screen caps are awful and practically unwatchable. Put the clip up.

One thing we agree on you were wrong about saying Khan disarmed Spock with his hands.

🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
I still don't see him missing. Sorry, but your screen caps are blurry and unable to see properly.

Who is the most skilled opponent Anakin has blocked blaster fire from ? Droids isn't impressive.

So you were wrong when you said he grabbed the gun. Idiot. Spock still had it aimed and Khan shot it accurately out of his hand before he could fire just as I said.

Your screen caps are awful and practically unwatchable. Put the clip up.

One thing we agree on [B]you were wrong about saying Khan disarmed Spock with his hands.

🙂 [/B]

"The screen caps are lying!" Clown tactics again.

The fact that Anakin blocks hits that would have hit him > destroy your claims. He even blocks attacks he can't see.

😂 Look how angry you're getting. Don't be upset that I don't have to resort to clown tactics and can say I was incorrect about something. While you clearly wanked, were wrong and can't admit it despite proof being shown. Nothing new from you.

Sorry, but Khan doesn't have 100% accuracy as you implied. Screen caps > you. Cry now, bandwagon-boi.

Originally posted by Robtard
"The screen caps are lying!" Clown tactics again.

The fact that Anakin blocks hits that would have hit him > destroy your claims. He even blocks attacks he can't see.

😂 Look how angry you're getting. Don't be upset that I don't have to resort to clown tactics and can say I was incorrect about something. While you clearly wanked, were wrong and can't admit it despite proof being shown. Nothing new from you.

Sorry, but Khan doesn't have 100% accuracy as you implied. Screen caps > you. Cry now, bandwagon-boi.

He's now stealing the tactic of another known troll that got banned from HC, went by the name slaine and whenever you proved him wrong, he would claim that your post was empty, that no text was showing up.

Originally posted by Robtard
"The screen caps are lying!" Clown tactics again.

The fact that Anakin blocks hits that would have hit him > destroy your claims. He even blocks attacks he can't see.

😂 Look how angry you're getting. Don't be upset that I don't have to resort to clown tactics and can say I was incorrect about something. While you clearly wanked, were wrong and can't admit it despite proof being shown. Nothing new from you.

Sorry, but Khan doesn't have 100% accuracy as you implied. Screen caps > you. Cry now, bandwagon-boi.

Its black and I just see things circled. Post the clip. Obviously you have it so post it.

He has to block attacks from no skilled droids. We see even Mace has to block fire from Jango and he's superior to Mace.

You thought he disarmed him with his hands. Awesome you admitting to me you're wrong. Love it.

Yes, he does but you're whole I won't post the clip is further proof you know I'm right as always. Khan is more accurate than droids which have no problem aiming at Jedi. Even if he missed with one shot the next would hit which Anakin cannot block. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Its black and I just see things circled. Post the clip. Obviously you have it so post it.

He has to block attacks from no skilled droids. We see even Mace has to block fire from Jango and he's superior to Mace.

You thought he disarmed him with his hands. Awesome you admitting to me you're wrong. Love it.

Yes, he does but you're whole I won't post the clip is further proof you know I'm right as always. Khan is more accurate than droids which have no problem aiming at Jedi. Even if he missed with one shot the next would hit which Anakin cannot block. 🙂

Stop lying. I have the entire movie and youtube would kick it off due to copy write violation, dummy. But keep dancing around that you were wrong and the screen caps show it 🙂

Attacks that would have hit, meaning the aim was spot on. You're acting like Anakin blocks attacks that would have missed.

Keep ranting, it's great. You were wanking and were wrong, Spock was really close when Khan shot the rifle out of his hand, so you wanked Khan's aim and Khan didn't beat Spock to the draw, as Spock was repeatedly telling him to stand down.

You were wrong, film proves it. Khan while a badass, misses at times, deal with it, bandwagon-boi:

Originally posted by Silent Master
He's now stealing the tactic of another known troll that got banned from HC, went by the name slaine and whenever you proved him wrong, he would claim that your post was empty, that no text was showing up.

So what you're saying is that he's an unoriginal clown. Thanks 👆, but I knew that already.

Originally posted by Robtard
So what you're saying is that he's an unoriginal clown. Thanks 👆, but I knew that already.

Basically, he's just lucky that his trolling debating is allowed here.

troll? lolcow.

Originally posted by Robtard
"The screen caps are lying!" Clown tactics again.

But I agree with Quan, here. The screen cap did nothing to prove your point.

Make a gif or make a vid clip of the film.

Use FRAPS to make a vid clip (it records sound, too). It will let you record 30 second clips of video and sound, for free. Download it, start the app, play the movie, and start recording.

It took me a bit to get used to the controls but once I figured it out, it was easy to record clips with it.

And post the damn vid on youtube OR google dropbox. Don't be a vaaaagooo, get some google going and drop the file there. Then make sure the file is publicly "reachable" and then upload it.

OR...you can just send me the damn movie (digitally) and I'll do all that for you. 🙂

We both have P2P capabilities. Just create a torrent for me and I'll download it from your computer.

Originally posted by dadudemon
But I agree with Quan, here. The screen cap did nothing to prove your point.

Make a gif or make a vid clip of the film.

Use FRAPS to make a vid clip (it records sound, too). It will let you record 30 second clips of video and sound, for free. Download it, start the app, play the movie, and start recording.

It took me a bit to get used to the controls but once I figured it out, it was easy to record clips with it.

And post the damn vid on youtube OR google dropbox. Don't be a vaaaagooo, get some google going and drop the file there. Then make sure the file is publicly "reachable" and then upload it.

OR...you can just send me the damn movie (digitally) and I'll do all that for you. 🙂

We both have P2P capabilities. Just create a torrent for me and I'll download it from your computer.

Stop it, DDM. Unless you think I'm outright lying(you know me better than this) about the sequence of shots I circled and explained, it's clear to see that Khan missed his first shot and was spot-on in his second.

I can send you the torrent link if you like, but you don't D/L torrents, iirc. Anyways, Lestov has it and says he can make clips, I linked him early this morning.

But here, I found a youtube clip of what appears to be off a crappier cam version than mine.

YouTube video
The instance of saving Uhura starts at about 1:03. You seen Khan trying to save Uhura, but misses the Klingon in his first blast; then hits on the second. It's a fast exchange, so you have to stop it just right to see the first blast hit the ground first and then the second hit the Klingon in the chest, as I did with my captures.

what an exhausting movie though.

jj better not do that "no scene longer than 2 seconds" mega-michael bay shit on star wars. 🤪