Khan vs. Darth Vader (pre suit)

Originally posted by Robtard
Clearly stated that whatever Lucas says supersedes what anyone else says and it's the highest form of canon; including Chee, by Chee's own words.

You're now arguing that Chee's wrong about what he wrote, dummy. Then again, you referred to him as "Lee", which tells me your were desperate google searching, found a hit and only read a small segment of the Holocron.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Chee factored this all in and it's t canon. Lucas also doesn't own Star Wars any more. Do you not know what sold the rights actually means.

First rule of the Holocron: "G-canon is George Lucas Canon; the six Episodes and any statements by George Lucas (including unpublished production notes from him or his production department that are never seen by the public). Elements originating with Lucas in the movie novelizations, reference books, and other sources are also G-canon,"

Chee > you. You should have read your wookieepedia source better and you also shouldn't have lied and claimd Lucas had made a statement that the Clone Wars film wasn't canon, cos he didn't 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
First rule of the Holocron: "G-canon is George Lucas Canon; the six Episodes and any statements by George Lucas (including unpublished production notes from him or his production department that are never seen by the public). Elements originating with Lucas in the movie novelizations, reference books, and other sources are also G-canon,"

Chee > you. You should have read your wookieepedia source better and you also shouldn't have lied and claimd Lucas had made a statement that the Clone Wars film wasn't canon, cos he didn't 🙂

🙂

Undeniable. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Control yourself its simply t canon. Not highest level. Quit lashing out.

Control your mental masturbations, it's still canon, and still admissible as evidence. Quit trolling.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again control yourself. Do not let my opinion control you like this.

Again, obey the canon policy instead of trying to lawyer exeptions to suit yourself. Don't try to arbitrate your opinion into a debate that has no use for it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What did I get wrong ? I simply summarized a line in the movie. You raged over it. I saw the droids we see overwhelm the Jedi in mass numbers. The Jedi were well represented. Khan looked far superior than any single Jedi has ever looked. 😂

You take squad, and then compare it to several battalions, and you think you have a fair comparative? Clearly those shades are cutting off the blood flow to your 2 remaining brain cells.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not incapacitating your opponent and leaving isn't getting your ass handed to you. Please never get into a fight. Obviously, you haven't since you are at work all the time anyways. Dooku and Yoda both had saber pressed against saber. Dooku easily force attacked while,Yoda stood helplessly by and watched it. Awful showing of reflexes there for master Yoda.

He was forced to attack downed and helpless people to get Yoda to relent. Your Special Edition of AOTC is very special indeed.

That's one...

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Klingons are a war like people and they were trounced by Khan. They had airships as well and were handed their asses by Khan. I guarantee they'd overwhelm any one Jedi if you swapped the characters out. You are showing your bias.

You would obviously have no trouble proving this ludicrous claim.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In the second encounter this is exactly what he says, [B]OBI-WAN: It's over, Anakin. I have the high ground. ANAKIN: You underestimate my power!

It literally says and backs me up. You clearly don't know the meanings of simple words or are just trolling.

I was referring to the Dooku fight you idiot. Geez, you can't even keep up with the arguments!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Abc logic shows is Obi is better suited for Anakin and Dooku already
bested him twice.

Dooku beat Anakin once, and lost the 2nd fight emphatically.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it's in the same paragraphs as I am discussing Anakin and his instability while in combat. You're not bright though, paranoid guy.

Your grasp of English and KMC's quote system is very very bad Quan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You're so paranoid but ill strike this up to overworked. You have having to work and actually openly cry about it.

That's 2.

Your Quan logic shades have made you enter an infinite loop, you keep repeating the same line over and over and over, thinking you actually have something worthy of talking about. I believe I have explained to you 3 times about my work and why I brought it up, because you accused me of being cowardly. Well, now I'm here, and your still bitching and crying and moaning.

*Sigh* I guess the fact that the only time you even sing a different tune is when my work schedule allows. And even then, you wussed out of all threads in the Anything Vs forum. Your own words came back to bite you hard.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You sought me out due to your pain. You aren't anything to me but I am your entire world at the moment. 🙂

You are about as relevant to me as the turd I shat 10 minutes ago.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I don't. I pulled off t canon from the man whose job it to decide continuity. This is just an Internet message board. Don't let me ruin your day. Just relax, sport.

Sorry, you don't get to decide what is or isn't allowed. You want that kind of debate, go elsewhere.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Control your mental masturbations, it's still canon, and still admissible as evidence. Quit trolling.

Again, obey the canon policy instead of trying to lawyer exeptions to suit yourself. Don't try to arbitrate your opinion into a debate that has no use for it.

You take squad, and then compare it to several battalions, and you think you have a fair comparative? Clearly those shades are cutting off the blood flow to your 2 remaining brain cells.

He was forced to attack downed and helpless people to get Yoda to relent. Your Special Edition of AOTC is very special indeed.

That's one...

You would obviously have no trouble proving this ludicrous claim.

I was referring to the Dooku fight you idiot. Geez, you can't even keep up with the arguments!

Dooku beat Anakin once, and lost the 2nd fight emphatically.

Your grasp of English and KMC's quote system is very very bad Quan.

That's 2.

Your Quan logic shades have made you enter an infinite loop, you keep repeating the same line over and over and over, thinking you actually have something worthy of talking about. I believe I have explained to you 3 times about my work and why I brought it up, because you accused me of being cowardly. Well, now I'm here, and your still bitching and crying and moaning.

*Sigh* I guess the fact that the only time you even sing a different tune is when my work schedule allows. And even then, you wussed out of all threads in the Anything Vs forum. Your own words came back to bite you hard.

You are about as relevant to me as the turd I shat 10 minutes ago.

Sorry, you don't get to decide what is or isn't allowed. You want that kind of debate, go elsewhere.

I said the feats count per thread. Quit obsessing over it.

I simply paraphrased the film and you went on a rant. Hysterical. Klingons and airships>>droids. Khan destroyed them singlehandedly according to Kirk.

It proved effective, he survived and Yoda failed to even harm him. 😂 canon. G canon.

Jango Fett clearly is proof enough or Order 66.

No, you weren't. But like I said this applies to Vader and backs my claim that he overestimates his own powers.

Dooku beat him twice and lost the third fight.

Says the paranoid crybaby who works for a living.

More tears.

Khan wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Chee also says its t canon and Lucas no longer owns Star Wars.

🙂

Undeniable. 🙂

Your argument is basically: 'Chee's in charge of what's SW canon and what he says goes.'

Then you ignore the part of his first rule in that whatever Lucas says is highest.

You're a clown; that is undeniable.

First rule of the Holocron: "G-canon is George Lucas Canon; the six Episodes and any statements by George Lucas (including unpublished production notes from him or his production department that are never seen by the public). Elements originating with Lucas in the movie novelizations, reference books, and other sources are also G-canon,"

Chee > you 🙂

Is Kahn going to shoot differently?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not the highest levels so not canon to me. Quit crying about it.

Don't care what canon it is to you, you aren't GL or Chee, quit bringing it up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I said the feats count per thread. Quit obsessing over it.

You wouldn't answer points raised. Your spamming.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I simply paraphrased the film and you went on a rant. Hysterical. Klingons and airships>>droids. Khan destroyed them singlehandedly according to Kirk.

You paraphrased entirely incorrectly then. Don't get bitchy when called out on something you stated incorrectly. I have not seen where you proved your assertion that the Klingons > the Battle Droids.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It proved effective, he survived and Yoda failed to even harm him. 😂 canon. G canon.

The converse is also true, despite Dooku's multiple attempts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Jango Fett clearly is proof enough or Order 66.

That was a staged maneuver that took decades of planning. and Jango killed a grand total of 1 Jedi. The Klingons would get slaughtered, because their weapons don't fire at that rate, and they enjoy close range combat, they would get absolutely chewed up when the lightsabers slice through the batleths like a hot knife through butter.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you weren't. But like I said this applies to Vader and backs my claim that he overestimates his own powers.

Are you now assuming to speak for me again? You are a mongoloid Quan. I was reffering to the 2nd Dooku fight because that is what we were discussing. Anakin losing to Dooku in AOTC was caused by his arrogance. I rebutted this with the fact that when he took him on in their 2nd fight, Anakin soloed Dooku.

A line of Debate Quan, if you can't follow it, then you are a lost child who cannot be helped.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dooku beat him twice and lost the third fight.

He only fought him twice in the movies, or have you retracted your stance and reffered to TCW?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Says the paranoid crybaby who works for a living.

Says the jobless bum who is 2 years older than me and has the mental capacity of a carrot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
More tears.

From your thoroughly owned ass.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan wins.

Unsubstantiated wanking.

According to Quan, Babydoll's feats never really happened to the real Babydoll, so they can't be used.

Going by that logic, alternate timeline Khan's feats can't be used because they didn't happen to the original Khan.

Right?

Originally posted by quanchi112
The feats, the skill, the experiences were all different. We also see Kirk unable to even faze him unlike original Kirk. It's obvious he had honed his skills, etc.

No, he was unphased against Kirk's punches to the head and face in the original series, too: he immediately turned around and started beating down Kirk despite Kirk's punches. Watch that hilarious video posted, earlier, of the Kirk vs. Khan scene. (lol)

Originally posted by quanchi112
Anakin was kod just by force lightning against one opponent. Khan is beyond his foes one on one. Proven.

That was also a younger, less powerful, less experienced version of Anakin. That's not the same version fighting in this thread, remember?

Originally posted by KingD19
According to Quan, Babydoll's feats never really happened to the real Babydoll, so they can't be used.

Going by that logic, alternate timeline Khan's feats can't be used because they didn't happen to the original Khan.

Right?

I guess that sounds about right... it's Quan Logic though, and only he and those he sells it to understand it.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
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Originally posted by Robtard
Your argument is basically: 'Chee's in charge of what's SW canon and what he says goes.'

Then you ignore the part of his first rule in that whatever Lucas says is highest.

You're a clown; that is undeniable.

First rule of the Holocron: "G-canon is George Lucas Canon; the six Episodes and any statements by George Lucas (including unpublished production notes from him or his production department that are never seen by the public). Elements originating with Lucas in the movie novelizations, reference books, and other sources are also G-canon,"

Chee > you 🙂

Not canon to me.

Chee and me agree, hee hee.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Is Kahn going to shoot differently?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Don't care what canon it is to you, you aren't GL or Chee, quit bringing it up.

You wouldn't answer points raised. Your spamming.

You paraphrased entirely incorrectly then. Don't get bitchy when called out on something you stated incorrectly. I have not seen where you proved your assertion that the Klingons > the Battle Droids.

The converse is also true, despite Dooku's multiple attempts.

That was a staged maneuver that took decades of planning. and Jango killed a grand total of 1 Jedi. The Klingons would get slaughtered, because their weapons don't fire at that rate, and they enjoy close range combat, they would get absolutely chewed up when the lightsabers slice through the batleths like a hot knife through butter.

Are you now assuming to speak for me again? You are a mongoloid Quan. I was reffering to the 2nd Dooku fight because that is what we were discussing. Anakin losing to Dooku in AOTC was caused by his arrogance. I rebutted this with the fact that when he took him on in their 2nd fight, Anakin soloed Dooku.

A line of Debate Quan, if you can't follow it, then you are a lost child who cannot be helped.

He only fought him twice in the movies, or have you retracted your stance and reffered to TCW?

Says the jobless bum who is 2 years older than me and has the mental capacity of a carrot.

From your thoroughly owned ass.

Unsubstantiated wanking.

What points have I ignored ?

You haven't seen the movie. It's obvious because you are arguing with the films words not mine. More firepower and better reflexes. What have the droids done to even show they are formidable since we have seen Jar Jar's crappy people were handling them. Only thing they have is numbers but aren't really that fork sable.

Dooku was inferior to Yoda. That's embarrassing for Yoda to let Dooku dictate the circumstances of the fight to him.

The maneuver took years to acquire the troops and what not. The order was simple to execute. Watch the movies and see what the Klingons are capable of. You clearly have not see the movie. It's obvious.

Jango did kill one Jedi but Obi failed to bring him in. Windu one of the best bested him. Jango is 1-1-1. Not bad considering it took one of the best if not the best swordsman Jedi to do so. Prove it.

Enough with the insults you halfwit. Anakin also lost to Obi due to arrogance so it still applied to him.

🙂

Says the guy who thinks I was insulting him. Hypocrite.

I'm probably in better shape and better looking. I do work but don't try to use that as some sort of sympathetic distraction to garner mercy in a debate.

You lost.

I have backed it up. I will do so even further in my battlezone while you work. 🙂

Originally posted by KingD19
According to Quan, Babydoll's feats never really happened to the real Babydoll, so they can't be used.

Going by that logic, alternate timeline Khan's feats can't be used because they didn't happen to the original Khan.

Right?

😂

I'm firing on all cylinders.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he clearly factored everything in and it's t canon. Makes sense because creators can bring Maul back etc.

Not canon to me.

[B]Chee and me agree, hee hee. [/B]

Hey buddy, have you read the first rule of the Holocron:

"G-canon is George Lucas Canon; the six Episodes and any statements by George Lucas (including unpublished production notes from him or his production department that are never seen by the public). Elements originating with Lucas in the movie novelizations, reference books, and other sources are also G-canon," 🙂

Who cares what you personally feel is canon, certainly not Chee and Lucas.

Chee > you. This is a fact.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, he was unphased against Kirk's punches to the head and face in the original series, too: he immediately turned around and started beating down Kirk despite Kirk's punches. Watch that hilarious video posted, earlier, of the Kirk vs. Khan scene. (lol)

That was also a younger, less powerful, less experienced version of Anakin. That's not the same version fighting in this thread, remember?

Yes, but the same one lost to an inferior opponents being overconfident in his abilities. That is the version we are using.

Originally posted by quanchi112
And neither are you. Chee and I are on the same page.

Hah!, I already quoted the canon policy in it's entirety for all to see, it's there in black and white. You are fooling nobody, and you are as far from right as it gets.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What points have I ignored ?

All of them. Everything to do with TCW for starters.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You haven't seen the movie. It's obvious because you are arguing with the films words not mine. More firepower and better reflexes. What have the droids done to even show they are formidable since we have seen Jar Jar's crappy people were handling them. Only thing they have is numbers but aren't really that fork sable.

Oh really? Please, enlighten us once again with your telepathic abilities Quan, amuse me more.

The Gungans. Learn what you are debating before spewing nonsense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dooku was inferior to Yoda. That's embarrassing for Yoda to let Dooku dictate the circumstances of the fight to him.

Oh, a desperation tactic aimed at killing defenceless wounded Jedi is suddenly Yoda failing? WAY to leap that logic Quan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The maneuver took years to acquire the troops and what not. The order was simple to execute. Watch the movies and see what the Klingons are capable of. You clearly have not see the movie. It's obvious.

You clearly are projecting and making wild assed assumptions straight out of your ass.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Jango did kill one Jedi but Obi failed to bring him in. Windu one of the best bested him. Jango is 1-1-1. Not bad considering it took one of the best if not the best swordsman Jedi to do so. Prove it.

I suppose ship guns that can frag asteroids don't register in your one tracked mind.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Enough with the insults you halfwit. Anakin also lost to Obi due to arrogance so it still applied to him.

CIS Does not apply in vs debates, and you brought the insults upon yourself acting like a moron and trying to slip one in hoping I didn't notice. you deserve every bit of vitrol anyone throws at you, because you are an assclown.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Says the guy who thinks I was insulting him. Hypocrite.

Which you did, you liar. I even quoted it back to you as proof. You pretending it doesn't exist does not make it so.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I'm probably in better shape and better looking. I do work but don't try to use that as some sort of sympathetic distraction to garner mercy in a debate.

I don't particularly give a f@ck. You are here more than I, post more than I, and then insulted me and accused me of cowardice when I can't always be here. So you brought all of it down on your own head by acting like a smartass.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You lost.

Take the Quan logic shades off and you would actually notice that reality disagrees with you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have backed it up. I will do so even further in my battlezone while you work. 🙂

You've back that ass up into hot coals, and that's about all you backed up.

Nobody is going to give a flying f@ck about your loaded BZ's Quan. Because they are useless and only serve to stroke your over inflated ego.

Originally posted by Robtard
Hey buddy, have you read the first rule of the Holocron:

"G-canon is George Lucas Canon; the six Episodes[b] and any statements by George Lucas (including unpublished production notes from him or his production department that are never seen by the public). Elements originating with Lucas in the movie novelizations, reference books, and other sources are also G-canon," 🙂

Who cares what you personally feel is canon, certainly not Chee and Lucas.

Chee > you. This is a fact. [/B]

T canon.

G is highest not t, buddy.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Hah!, I already quoted the canon policy in it's entirety for all to see, it's there in black and white. You are fooling nobody, and you are as far from right as it gets.

All of them. Everything to do with TCW for starters.

Oh really? Please, enlighten us once again with your telepathic abilities Quan, amuse me more.

The Gungans. Learn what you are debating before spewing nonsense.

Oh, a desperation tactic aimed at killing defenceless wounded Jedi is suddenly Yoda failing? WAY to leap that logic Quan.

You clearly are projecting and making wild assed assumptions straight out of your ass.

I suppose ship guns that can frag asteroids don't register in your one tracked mind.

CIS Does not apply in vs debates, and you brought the insults upon yourself acting like a moron and trying to slip one in hoping I didn't notice. you deserve every bit of vitrol anyone throws at you, because you are an assclown.

Which you did, you liar. I even quoted it back to you as proof. You pretending it doesn't exist does not make it so.

I don't particularly give a f@ck. You are here more than I, post more than I, and then insulted me and accused me of cowardice when I can't always be here. So you brought all of it down on your own head by acting like a smartass.

Take the Quan logic shades off and you would actually notice that reality disagrees with you.

You've back that ass up into hot coals, and that's about all you backed up.

Nobody is going to give a flying f@ck about your loaded BZ's Quan. Because they are useless and only serve to stroke your over inflated ego.

No, I haven't. You are wrong.

You argued against the words of the film acting like they were my own. 🙂

I do understand what I am debating objectively whereas you are biased. Yes, they were effectively fighting the Droids. Pathetic.

Yoda was right there. He had ample time. Dooku did so while in the midst of combat to his friends. Yoda was helpless as watched on.

No, you did not see it, clearly.

When did I say that ? Jango killed a Jedi with a simple blaster.

That is essentially ignoring the characters themselves. You are clearly emotionally compromised. I can feel your anger.

No, it was in reference to Anakin the entire paragraph was. 😂

Ill be here after you crawl back into your cowardly hole.

Accept defeat and garner whatever self respect you still have at this point and concede.

You'd never do one as you'd have to be accountable for something. I walk the walk,brother.