Ok I just so happened to watch the movie, the guy soloed a army of Klingons took down a few ships with a huge ass gun, saved Kirk and his crew and walked away with zero damage.
What feat does Anakin have above this, the last time I saw him he was getting dismembered by Obiwan and being enslaved by metal and serviced to Sidious.
Originally posted by StealthRanger
>implying that losing to Obi-Wan is any sort of low showing
>implying servicing Sidious has any bearing
What feat does Anakin have above Khan's screen feats above what I mentioned?
"Ok I just so happened to watch the movie, the guy soloed a army of Klingons took down a few ships with a huge ass gun, saved Kirk and his crew and walked away with zero damage."
*is under the assumption that the movie novelizations are still canon given the EU reboot*
Keeping even pace with Obi-Wan who was able to deflect blaster fire from all sides and outmaneuver fighter droids with low end relativistic reactions (stated several times throughout the novelization)
Can I ask of Khan's speed feats? And zero damage, from what now?
Or you know, just use TK to choke a *****
Originally posted by StealthRanger
*is under the assumption that the movie novelizations are still canon given the EU reboot*Keeping even pace with Obi-Wan who was able to deflect blaster fire from all sides and outmaneuver fighter droids with low end relativistic reactions (stated several times throughout the novelization)
Can I ask of Khan's speed feats? And zero damage, from what now?
Or you know, just use TK to choke a *****
Spok's death grip could not even put him out, and you really think he's going to stand there while being choked, he pulls his blaster up and fry's him. That weapon was a ship destroyer, Anakin would be helpless, and has never shown the ability to use the force choke and fight with a saber.
According to this forum, Jedi's can kill Thor and Loki, no wonder why everyone thinks they can kill everyone else, this is pretty ridiculous. I have watched the Jedi's get slaughtered in droves by lesser beings..
How powerful is said 'death grip'?
Anakin is faster. He will move first. That and precog to dodge and whatnot. Or use TK to strip him of his weapons. Force is a versatile asset
According to this forum, Jedi's can kill Thor and Loki, no wonder why everyone thinks they can kill everyone else, this is pretty ridiculous. I have watched the Jedi's get slaughtered in droves by lesser beings..
>SB levels of jelly all over SW
Originally posted by StealthRanger
How powerful is said 'death grip'?Anakin is faster. He will move first. That and precog to dodge and whatnot. Or use TK to strip him of his weapons. Force is a versatile asset
>SB levels of jelly all over SW
What are they starting face to face or within 5 feet? Yea if so then he wins, otherwise how is Anakin been proven to move so fast? I saw Khan moving faster on foot then I ever saw Anakin. I hope you don't start start talking about speed blitzing..
Originally posted by StealthRanger
I don't know if this site has a standard starting distance or whatever so blehI was more referring to saber throw of telekinesis from longer distances since Vader has the better reactions
However he has never been shown to use TK choke while being about to fight. Even when he was fighting in his later suit days he was only shown to be able to use TK by itself, not while fighting.
Khan showed some amazing agility and durability and the choke is not simply going to just KO him. He was getting beat down with metal objects, stunned and Vulcanized and still he withstood. The force choke yea kills weak girls and admirals, but never been shown to be that impressive above helpless people.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
However he has never been shown to use TK choke while being about to fight. Even when he was fighting in his later suit days he was only shown to be able to use TK by itself, not while fighting.Khan showed some amazing agility and durability and the choke is not simply going to just KO him. He was getting beat down with metal objects, stunned and Vulcanized and still he withstood. The force choke yea kills weak girls and admirals, but never been shown to be that impressive above helpless people.
CIS doesn't apply in threads and this isn't some inverse scripted battle, nothing stops him from doing so or using telekinesis at all for that matter
Define 'amazing' durability. What destructive capacity are the attacks he's tanked of? From what you've posted, at best you'd be looking at low end superhuman
And Jedi have saber thrown in the prequel trilogy so, yeah
Originally posted by StealthRanger
CIS doesn't apply in threads and this isn't some inverse scripted battle, nothing stops him from doing so or using telekinesis at all for that matterDefine 'amazing' durability. What destructive capacity are the attacks he's tanked of? From what you've posted, at best you'd be looking at low end superhuman
And Jedi have saber thrown in the prequel trilogy so, yeah
Durability would go to getting hit over and over and over with metal objects, stun guns, blows from Spok and Kirk without KO.
What durability feats does Anakin have? What TK powers does he have over a saber grab and juggling some metal ball bearing in his hand?
Yes I heard you the first time chuckles. How powerful are Spock and Kirk's blows? Any destructive capacity feats? Getting hit with metal objects, unless it's something good, would at best equate to low end superhuman durability
Best I can think up at the moment is survivng Dooku's force lightning and stopping a blaster bolt with his bare hand
As for TK, he should be more powerful than Dooku who was able to move Obi-Wan around telekinetically and brought down part of a balcony to crush Obi-Wan or whatever it was. Trying to recall higher end DC feats from Star Wars. Khan can still be flung around like a ragdoll in any case
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Yes I heard you the first time chuckles. How powerful are Spock and Kirk's blows? Any destructive capacity feats? Getting hit with metal objects, unless it's something good, would at best equate to low end superhuman durabilityBest I can think up at the moment is survivng Dooku's force lightning and stopping a blaster bolt with his bare hand
As for TK, he should be more powerful than Dooku who was able to move Obi-Wan around telekinetically and brought down part of a balcony to crush Obi-Wan or whatever it was. Trying to recall higher end DC feats from Star Wars. Khan can still be flung around like a ragdoll in any case
Well if he can use the force in the forum fight based off other's feats that he never shown then yea he could do all those things, I just never saw him have this impressive TK your speaking off.
I thought this was based of screen feats of him personally not basing it off what others could do.
Well if he's more powerful than Dooku, he can obviously generate more energy in the force than he can
It's called powerscaling. Debating boards tend to utlize it in debates (along with positive feedback). Gets us a better sense of scale of a universe's power
But it's not like I'm claiming something like Vader is more powerful than Shaak Ti so he can manipulate plants or whatever
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Well if he's more powerful than Dooku, he can obviously generate more energy in the force than he canIt's called powerscaling. Debating boards tend to utlize it in debates (along with positive feedback). Gets us a better sense of scale of a universe's power
But it's not like I'm claiming something like Vader is more powerful than Shaak Ti so he can manipulate plants or whatever
Fair enough, would have been nice if they had shown his power more considering he was supposed to be the most powerful to ever live or more Midi's then Yoda.