Darkstorm Zero
Master of all Decepticons
Learn how to use the goddamn quote function Quan, you've been here long enough so at least make your goddamn posts legible instead of being lazy and only quoting all in one go.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I most certainly did compare the efficiency and the skill of their opponents to each other. In a versus thread most tend to compare combatants in manner of all ways. Vader came under the guise of friendship and started attacking without warning leaders and droids. That is neither impressive nor ballsy. It is the way of Vader. When Vader showed up to the Jedi temple he slaughtered children with the aid of thousands of troops.
So, if I were to say that Khan, by firing into a group of unarmed men in an office building from the safety of an armed shuttlecraft, does that make Khan sucky character too? Oh, oh, hows about a coward who had to use the desperation of a man losing his daughter to rig him as a suicide bomber?
See? I can match your bullshit comparative very easily.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Give an instance of a more powerful attack the saber has deflected. I seek evidence not a sentence that demonstrates nothing. The force lightning when angles properly can deflect it but that isn't as powerful. You don't get to separate the two properties of the blast to benefit your biased agenda here. The force lightning has never ripped through skin or shown 1/3 the power of Khan's über gun.
Speeder bike blasters from the movies, and numerous things from TCW, or if we go full monty, AT AT blasts and TIE Fighter shots from various EU.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Dooku was also more experienced and powerful than Obi yet he didn't blindly rush into his own doom. That has always been Anakin's downfall run from his teenage years up until his death. This wasn't an example of precog alone it was a stupid knee jerk reaction while at the same time being overconfident in his own abilities.
You better double check that. Vader handled the Purge years flawlessly with the only exception being Starkiller.
You take those two instances as if that is all Vader has to offer. I'm sorry Quan, but ignoring everything else, despite Vader having CONSIDERABLY more exposure than NuKhan is not something you can ignore.
Originally posted by quanchi112
But let's delve deeper into this silly theory of yours that force users and precog being greater than those minus the force. It is unproven and ridiculous to say the least.
That's not delving deeper, you half-wit, that's you making a supposition. Learn the difference.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We see in the span of two seconds this Jedi easily overwhelmed by a skilled gunman. Jango possesses no precog nor force powers yet in under two seconds he overwhelms and defeats the Jedi.
We also see Windu outright pwn Jango in the very same scene. Nice double standard in leaving out something that contradicts the very same thing you tried to prove with that vid. *Slow Clap*
Originally posted by quanchi112
Anakin acknowledges he is ahead of Obi which he himself admits in the revenge of the Sith film as well. Lucas himself admits his inability to control himself or his temper is his undoing. This is a common character flaw that costs him many battles spoken from the word of the film creator himself. If you watch further in you will see examples of him being unable to control himself in various situations or struggling to do so at the behest of his mentor.
Attack of the clones, he is young, inexperienced, and dealing with lingering emotional attachments (IE: Padme). in Sith, he is more calm, experienced, and focused, only losing his temper via frustration during the fight with Obi Wan, which was a marathon duel. And in a split second decision to save Palpatine, because Windu was taking the law into his own hands.
You don't like semantics, fine, but don't try to pull another double standard again Quan.
Originally posted by quanchi112
This is what you call evidence to support my claims unlike your wishful thinking debating. I will continue to rub your noses in the film evidence to destroy your fanboyism and disgusting bias.
What does that docco prove? Your evidence is only seen through rose tinted glasses, as you color everything, all the while leaving context out in the dog house. You are a dishonest debater
Originally posted by quanchi112
Saying all these characters would destroy Khan without proof is like saying the sky is red while beating your chest in a primitive fashion. Evidence. Where is yours ?
Already proven, months and months ago. Your new habit of digging into Youtube does not change that. You made all the same arguments as before, nothing has ever changed.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He does defeat them both without any aid. Kirk himself uses the words I have used. Have you not seen the film ? You seem to have a problem with the words from Kirk's mouth himself not little old me.
Hyperbole is fun, because we see several instances where the enterprise crew fired on the Klingons. Khan did kill the majority, but not all. Way to wear those rose tints bro.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He did start the battle by firing. They can clearly see him. Most battles start with someone firing first. So I guess in the heat of a battle the element of surprise doesn't count despite being outnumbered more than 10-1 against Klingon warriors on their homeworld. I guess by your ridiculous logic those battles do not count. The difference here my witless enemy is that he wasn't sniping them out of sight. He was in plain sight. Vader attacked the Separatist leaders under the guise of friendship. They were not warriors either. Hypocrisy rears its ugly head yet again.
Were the Klingons aware of his presence before the shot was fired? no? then it is an ambush, AKA, a surprise attack. And do NOT put words in my mouth, I never said it didn't count, I said that the Klingons were not even aware Khan was there, so they were not sent for him at all. How the bloody hell did you think he got first strike despite being outnumbered and out positioned? Oh wait, you are thinking that he simply stood there out in the open and started firing because all them Klingons weren't paying him enough attention? 😂
Yeah, no. Anakin ignighted the saber in full view of the Seperatists, once that happened, they knew what was going to happen. He didn't get a sneaky freebie.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Look up the definition of war and ship. I couldn't care less about you arguing over semantics. The ships were used in this combat situation and Khan easily downed them himself with his über gun.
I don't give a crap about your ideological misuse of terminology to try and overhype what Khan took down to try and make him look better than what he is. An unarmed troop transporter is NOT a warship. Shit dude, you couldn't even prove they could leave the atmosphere, because they never did. A ship, by definition is a vessel too big to be carried by another vessel, thus the difference between a boat and a ship. Those troop transports aren't packing any heat that we've seen either. A warship, by general definition, is also supposed to carry armaments with which to wage battle with, as far as I can tell, those shuttles didn't even have basic shields, or armor. If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say those are the Klingon equivalent of Technicals, not even APCs.
As much as you can overhype, I can downplay, and I'd still be more correct about it than you.