Originally posted by Branlor SwiftHe was adamantium. Ultron-13 was also schizophrenic because Doom programmed him with all previous 12 personalities on top of each other. Which led to Ultron-13 falling in love, tormenting itself with conflicting desires, opening its chassis panels and pulling itself apart at the joints.
being serious for a second, how do you see Ultron as above Thanos?I mean Daredevil beat iirc an adamantium Ultron...
With his own head pulled off and neck cables exposed, Daredevil and Karnak managed to sever the remaining wires and decapitate it.
Basically it destroyed itself.
Originally posted by BentleyBasically Kang prepped to such an extent that he broke the time-space continuum and still couldn't beat Ultron, who had to allow himself to be destroyed.
Basically Daredevil destroyed it. Basically Doom is sh_tty at hacking robots.
That's pretty awful. Even by Kang standards.
well, not sure how anyone win this fight tbh. i think both are durable enough to withstand the offensive capability of the other. thanos' offensive>ultron imo, but ultron's durability>thanos' imo. without some plot help for one, i'm not sure how either could possibly take out the other in a ring-style forum match....
Originally posted by ODG
Basically Kang prepped to such an extent that he broke the time-space continuum and still couldn't beat Ultron, who had to allow himself to be destroyed.That's pretty awful. Even by Kang standards.
Kang wanted to best Ultron by warfare, obviously Ultron was incapable of besting Kang since it had to shut itself and Kang was alive and well, retrying his warfare everytime. If Kang really wanted to beat Ultron at all costs he'd have, but he'd rather bust the universe and continue playing his videogames with Robo here by warfaring crazy.
About the awful part I only have one word to say about it: Bendis.
Originally posted by BentleyYou do know that the reason the timestream was broken was Kang kept trying to beat Ultron, lost, came back with another army, lost, over and over again until the timestream broke, right?
Kang wanted to best Ultron by warfare, obviously Ultron was incapable of besting Kang since it had to shut itself and Kang was alive and well, retrying his warfare everytime. If Kang really wanted to beat Ultron at all costs he'd have, but he'd rather bust the universe and continue playing his videogames with Robo here by warfaring crazy.About the awful part I only have one word to say about it: Bendis.
Originally posted by ODG
You do know that the reason the timestream was broken was Kang kept trying to beat Ultron, lost, came back with another army, lost, over and over again until the timestream broke, right?
Sure, he was trying again and again to beat that pesky AI, like a kid playing a videogame. He's one stubborn player that Kang.
But in all those wars, for all his technopathy and technology powerful enough to casually tank several heralds, Ultron never killed Kang, nor did it manage to stop him from messing with the timestream, when Ultron realized the full extent of the situation the only solution it could come up with was to shut itself down.
Because there is no way Ultron can actually take on Kang 131
Originally posted by ODGYou think that bodes well?
He was adamantium. Ultron-13 was also schizophrenic because Doom programmed him with all previous 12 personalities on top of each other. Which led to Ultron-13 falling in love, tormenting itself with conflicting desires, opening its chassis panels and pulling itself apart at the joints.With his own head pulled off and neck cables exposed, Daredevil and Karnak managed to sever the remaining wires and decapitate it.
Basically it destroyed itself.
Thanos pulls Ultron's head off
Also, DD kept tanking attacks.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI see a Godblast crushing Ultron though.
Ultron has taken some serious blows from Mjolnir in stride. He can definitely replicate no-selling some blasts from Surfer.
Or Thor going completely out.
Surfer would have to unload some huge normal attacks to have any luck. Luckily he's not all just about raw power, but yeah.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Yes but can he no sell blasts from Thanos is the real question? I saw his high high end sure, maybe. Average showings.. nah.. I see him being put down.
Why are you comparing no selling a random blast from Surfer to no selling a blast from Thanos?
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I see a Godblast crushing Ultron though.Or Thor going completely out.
Surfer would have to unload some huge normal attacks to have any luck. Luckily he's not all just about raw power, but yeah.
Yeah, I guess.
It's funny how ridiculous Thor is with holding back during the Busiek era. I remember him hammering away to no effect with some real effort and having to resort to lightning to destroy a secondary Adamantium Ultron (This was Ultron/Adamantium at their high point).
Then he started tearing through them like f*king paper out of nowhere. I think if Ultron appeared in a Thor book, Adamantium or not, that yea, things wouldn't go well for the machine but he'd have to bring his A-Game to beat some of the more powerful versions.
Agreed.