Ultron vs Thanos

Originally posted by ODG
Even if that were his argument, such a condition would hardly be limited to Thanos. We've seen Thor tank Celestial blasts. Give Thor adamantium armor and I could see it being blown off by Celestial blasts. That doesn't mean Thor is more durable than adamantium. He's obviously not.

A Thor donning adamantium armor would obviously be more durable than a slightly beefier Thor in a fight. Accordingly, adamantium is more durable than Thor.

well, that's pretty much what i've been saying all along.... shrug

Thor and Surfer tanking abstract attacks are high showings, far from their averages. They've both been put down by far less, hence why using averages is useful. On average they're not more durable than adamantium. On the other hand, Thanos' average durability is consistently portrayed as much higher than Thor and Surfer's. Based on his showings I think an argument can easily be made that on average he's on par, or more durable than adamantium. A few high showings from heralds doesn't change that.

Originally posted by ODG
Immortus tried to convince Kang otherwise. He said so. Before he got roflstomp killed by the Avengers' kids. You probably should reread these comics in-between the sobbing sessions it'll inevtiably produce.

After one-shotting Maestro and future Tony. Crappy showing I'll admit, but I doubt he was actually Immortus, just some future Kang. Could be Bendis piss poor writting what travestited the character so much though. One of the kids was Bendispower Clint spawn after all.

Originally posted by ODG
Pretty sure we'll never see such a spectacular failure from Kang again. So you can rest in peace.

According to you not defeating a Ultron whose power we don't know nothing about except that he was nice invincible, carrying future tech and punking heralds with no trouble is a bad showing. You assume that Ultron must be a small fish to justify bashing Kang. If anything, that version of Ultron seemed to be absurdly overpowered 😕

But again, most issues with that arc can be traced to Bendis uncanny ability to write crap. It's still better than AoU though.

Originally posted by Bentley
After one-shotting Maestro and future Tony. Crappy showing I'll admit, but I doubt he was actually Immortus, just some future Kang. Could be Bendis piss poor writting what travestited the character so much though. One of the kids was Bendispower Clint spawn after all.

According to you not defeating a Ultron whose power we don't know nothing about except that he was nice invincible, carrying future tech and punking heralds with no trouble is a bad showing. You assume that Ultron must be a small fish to justify bashing Kang. If anything, that version of Ultron seemed to be absurdly overpowered 😕

But again, most issues with that arc can be traced to Bendis uncanny ability to write crap. It's still better than AoU though.

I don't assume Ultron was weak. I just conclude that Kang can't prep worth crap. The entire timestream open to him, his choice of allies, basically unlimited tries, and he can't beat Ultron before breaking the timestream and threatening all existence.

Maybe Bendis just got it right. biscuits

Originally posted by vince_slice
Thor and Surfer tanking abstract attacks are high showings, far from their averages. They've both been put down by far less, hence why using averages is useful. On average they're not more durable than adamantium. On the other hand, Thanos' average durability is consistently portrayed as much higher than Thor and Surfer's. Based on his showings I think an argument can easily be made that on average he's on par, or more durable than adamantium. A few high showings from heralds doesn't change that.

An argument can be made whether Thanos is as durable against blasts as adamantium. IMO, I don't think but it's not too far fetched. But certainly without argument Thanos is not as durable as adamantium in the blunt or cut force area.

Remember energy blasts =/= blunt force or cutting force

Originally posted by ODG
Here I was operating under the assumption that we weren't taking this too seriously.

I know, I shouldn't have brought a solid argument such as Bendispower Clint mmm

Originally posted by ODG
I don't assume Ultron was weak. I just conclude that Kang can't prep worth crap. The entire timestream open to him, his choice of allies, basically unlimited tries, and he can't beat Ultron before breaking the timestream and threatening all existence.

Kang by definition wants a challenge, he intends to fight Ultron in more or less equal terms, if there is no risk of defeat there is no conquest. He's litteraly playing a videogame against the computer and failing again and again. Obviously if Kang wanted to retcon or destroy Ultron for real he could've done it. I mean, Wolverine just did by the oldest time trick in the book.

We've seen Kang prep using Cosmic Cubes when he means business awesr

Originally posted by ODG
Maybe Bendis just got it right. biscuits

The only part he got right was when Kang dismissed Doom as a nuissance 😛

Originally posted by Bentley
failing again and again

The way Kang's toying with Apocalypse and Thor and Celestials clearly puts him above the sentient trashcan and the copter-titan.

I don't see why people are discussing this :3

^ The Apocalypse Twins aren't on Kang's side.

For me Thanos is on another power scale, but wat does a near 50 yr. opinion count 😛

Thanos is another level than Ultron, Thanos byfar is High Trans as where Ultron maybe High herald or very low trans, but to me it's more PIS, Heralds like Thor, Silver Surfer, Dr Strange should just phucking own him I mean really, these can turn him into scrap as where Thanos it take more than one herald to beat him hell to even slow him down.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thanos is another level than Ultron, Thanos byfar is High Trans as where Ultron maybe High herald or very low trans, but to me it's more PIS, Heralds like Thor, Silver Surfer, Dr Strange should just phucking own him I mean really, these can turn him into scrap as where Thanos it take more than one herald to beat him hell to even slow him down.

Ultron is no less than mid trans. Lol @ high herald

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thanos is another level than Ultron, Thanos byfar is High Trans as where Ultron maybe High herald or very low trans, but to me it's more PIS, Heralds like Thor, Silver Surfer, Dr Strange should just phucking own him I mean really, these can turn him into scrap as where Thanos it take more than one herald to beat him hell to even slow him down.

Thanos wins, comfortably. I don't get the overrating of Ultron on here, recently. Is it all down to "Age of Ultron"?

Originally posted by janus77
Thanos wins, comfortably. I don't get the overrating of Ultron on here, recently. Is it all down to "Age of Ultron"?

If you want to see overrated, look at Thanos.

Originally posted by Odekahn
If you want to see overrated, look at Thanos.

Ultron is low trans at best imo

Originally posted by janus77
That guy who can withstand a prolonged assault from Odin?

That guy who got owned by caps shield and hawkeyes arrows.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Ultron is low trans at best imo

Smdh

Originally posted by Odekahn
That guy who got owned by caps shield and hawkeyes arrows.

Thanos only fights Skyfathers and above.