Originally posted by Raisen
Physically Orion has consistently been more beastly. I don't see how anyone could disagree. Thor definitely has him in the energy dept. tho
That's his nature and like I said daddy issues.
Thor in his younger days was acting like Orion, killing frost giants for fun damn near.
Originally posted by carver9
I can't picture Thor taking a pounding like Orion recently did against Superman and only smile afterwards like he didn't even feel it. That was an insane showing.
Thor has taken repeated beatings from Kurse to the Destroyer without faltering.
A lack of damage soak feats isn't Thor's problem.
Originally posted by Raisen
Physically Orion has consistently been more beastly. I don't see how anyone could disagree. Thor definitely has him in the energy dept. tho
Originally posted by Raisen
I think they're similar in intelligence, but Thor has been displayed kinda stupid more times than Orion. I think the slight edge goes to Orion
Neither of that is true. And while Thor has been a dumb jock, Orion has been portrayed as nothing more then a rabid dog if not for the Motherbox.
Originally posted by the Darkone
That doesn't make sense to me, both have been depicted as highly intelligence. Thor also gained knowledge from Blake his human host and understand scientific conversations, and Orion has repair a boom tube device something like that, I think writers misunderstood their warrior attitude as intelligent, as where it takes intelligence to lead army godly beings and stagiest battle plans, if it was that easy who need generals.
That's why I said split, I simply pointed out that both can be written as not particularly thoughtful at times, more preoccupied with battle.
@Darkone...
It depends on how you view certain characters durability and strength. Example...some people consider Superman and Hulk as peers physically. Orion withstood a load of attacks from Superman with a smile on his face. Thor was in the same situation and didn't look so well after 3 punches/hits. If Superman and Hulk are peers like everyone thinks, then this is proof that Orion damage soak is above Thor.
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/2.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/3.jpg
Originally posted by carver9
@Darkone...It depends on how you view certain characters durability and strength. Example...some people consider Superman and Hulk as peers physically. Orion withstood a load of attacks from Superman with a smile on his face. Thor was in the same situation and didn't look so well after 3 punches/hits. If Superman and Hulk are peers like everyone thinks, then this is proof that Orion damage soak is above Thor.
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/2.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/3.jpg
Why are you comparing hay makers (Which mind you started with a cheapshot) to a speed blitz? Within that very same comic it was made evident that haymakers pack noticeably more power.
And I won't even get started on the cherry-picking aspect of your post.
Originally posted by Raisen
Thor isn't consistently shown like this. Orion is consistently aggressive, strong, durable, with quicker reflexes and fight speed.
I agree, that's why I said it's Orion nature that's what it seems like. Orions has shown he is more aggressive more like Beta Ray Bill but skilled tho, Orion and Thor are peers in strength, by feats Thor seems a little bit stronger.
Originally posted by the Darkone
I agree, that's why I said it's Orion nature that's what it seems like. Orions has shown he is more aggressive more like Beta Ray Bill but skilled tho, Orion and Thor are peers in strength, by feats Thor seems a little bit stronger.
Who actually displays more skill in your opinion? Not implied skill, but displayed skill......
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why are you comparing hay makers (Which mind you started with a cheapshot) to a speed blitz? Within that very same comic it was made evident that haymakers pack noticeably more power.And I won't even get started on the cherry-picking aspect of your post.
If Thor was put in that same situation Orion was in, do you think he would have tanked those punches? I'm not cherry picking though. I know of the Kurse fight. I also know of Orion showings...both have highs and lows, so I can see where an argument can be made. I just think Orion durability is a tad bit above Thor but not enough to make a difference.
Originally posted by carver9
If Thor was put in that same situation Orion was in, do you think he would have tanked those punches? I'm not cherry picking though. I know of the Kurse fight. I also know of Orion showings...both have highs and lows, so I can see where an argument can be made. I just think Orion durability is a tad bit above Thor but not enough to make a difference.
I don't see why not, Thor is perfectly capable of replicating that showing.
Yes it is. It's like me posting a scan of Thor tanking some extreme heat and then post a scan of Orion not being able to endure being on fire for more then a few moments, then deem that one is more durable then the other.
Why? You are telling me something without any reasoning. If Thor has similar feats then why is one above the other? Just admit that Orion had a good showing recently that got you wet and now you're on his bandwagon until someone has an excellent showing next week.
You do this like all the time Carver, it's not exactly hard to figure you out.
Re: Who is the most powerful God, Thor or Orion??
Originally posted by the Darkone
Who is the most powerful God, Thor or Orion??This base on feats, actual panel feats with statements. How do they match against one another if they were part of the same universe??
Strength: Thor
Intelligence : even
Energy Projection: Thor
Energy Absorption: even
Speed: Orion
Reflexes: Orion
Durability: Thor
Fighting experience/ability: Orion little more skilled
Striking power: Thor
Damage Soak: Thor
Best Berserk Rage: Thor
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Strength: Split.
Intelligence : Both can be written as dumb tbh. Split.
Energy Projection: Split on average, but the God Blast trumps even the Astro Force.
Energy Absorption: Thor.
Speed: Orion
Reflexes: Orion
Durability: Split, edge to Thor I guess based purely on feats.
Fighting experience/ability: Split.
Striking power: Thor with Mjolnir.
Damage Soak: Split.
Best Berserk Rage: What?
This. I also see energy absorption a split as well. Orion is also acientificaly smarter as well. Both match up evenly.
Lol @ Thor easily.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Honestly speaking, this questioning of Thor's capabilities has arisen largely due to the ridiculous PIS-Worf showings in the last 2 years, that is if one decides to conveniently ignore the near-Pak-level insanity that was Fraction Thor. Thor has not been downscled to mid-herald or low-herald. Thor continues to remain at high herald, like his peers Surfer and Superman.With the exception of speed(which in itself could be debatable), there is almost no category in which Orion can match up to Thor, much less exceed him. Anyone who says otherwise is, to put it bluntly, a hater, a troll or a bigot.
People who like to say Thor's been "nerfed" or demoted curiously forget Fraction's ongoing and Fear Itself, which basically gave Thor some absurd feats, almost to the point of effecting his characterization completely.
