http://imageshack.us/f/153/orion2413.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/829/orion2414.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/577/orion2415.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/341/orion2416.jpg/
Lets see... He exhibited human and New God engineering expertise, historical knowledge, and was methodical in his approach to outprep and outthink his opponent.
Originally posted by Golgo13
I used to, but I forgot my password. I'm trying to get another account, but haven't heard from anyone yet, because you have to wait to get access to the boards.Anyway, since we're on the intelligence side, who is a better tactician/strategist?
Oh too bad. I didn't want to just scan spam but whatever here:
A. SURGICAL SKILLS:Donald Blake intelligence was obvious from the beginning as shown in this tale of his origins where he graduated with top honors.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic15.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic16.jpgWhen a celebrity figure receives a dangerous gun shot wound and is sent to a multi-million dollar facility for treatment, who do they call? You guessed it.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic23.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic24.jpgOnly Doctor Blake's hands can do the miraculous operation needed to save the Whizzer's life and have him conscious and talking in a few mere hours. The Whizzer had suffered a serious heart attack, and then exerted himself running a decent distance and collapsed.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic29.jpgThor is just as adept in the field of medicine in his godly form as he is in his mortal form as seen here.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/IntelligentMedic5.jpgDonald Blake produces a masterpiece of surgical skill when he operates and saves a mans live when nobody else could.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic39.jpgThor's surgical abilities are so great, his called a magician.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsMerlin5.jpgEven years later after he had lost the ability to transform into Donald Blake and performed surgery, Thor's skills are still extraordinary as seen here when he saves the life of a wounded man going into shock in the middle of central park with barely any medical equipment.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic17.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic18.jpgAnother compliment about Donald Blake's matchless surgical skills after a successful operation.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/IntelligentMedic16.jpg"Your skill as a surgeon surpasses any other I've ever seen" is not a compliment Doctor Blake is unfamiliar with.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/IntelligentMedic11.jpgDonald Blake's colleagues have never seen surgical skill and brilliance such as his and even comment on his incredible knowledge on techniques not known to man.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/IntelligentMedic8.jpgWhen Micheal Korvac kills and then later barely revives the Avengers, it's up to Thor as Donald Blake to save their lives and he does exactly that. It should be noted that some of the Avengers had unique physiology such as the Vision.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic37.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WithstandsKorvac7.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic38.jpgWhen the Fantastic Four need a doctor who's up there intellectually with Reed Richards, their number one choice is Donald Blake, the same Donald Blake who's one of the top ten most gifted surgeons in the world as stated here when he performs a miracle operation.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic19-1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic21.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic22.jpgSaves Hawkeye's eyesight by performing a highly sensitive and experimental brain operation.
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/SavesBarton1.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/SavesBarton2.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/SavesBarton3.jpgThe reason the Fantastic Four needed Donald Blake in the first place was to save the Blacksun who had recently died. Not only did Blake bring him back to life but he also reversed his cellular decay and removed his powers which turned him human with his unmatched surgical skill.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic32.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic33.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic34.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic35.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic36.jpgWhen a blast from a Loki possessing Norn magic mortally wounds Sif, it is only the combined godly knowledge of Thor and Donald Blake's uncanny surgical skill that can save her.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic41.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic42.jpgWhen Doctor Strange is in trouble, it's Thor who he contacts, and it's only he who has the unearthly knowledge and surgical skill to counteract the effects of a powerful spell as no modern medicine known to man could -yeah, you read it right, a spell- and save Doctor Strange's life.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic25.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic26.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic27.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic28.jpgB. INTELLIGENCE:
Thor knows most earthly languages.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/IntelligentMedic13.jpgWhen Black Bolt calls for a meeting of minds, he chooses Reed Richards and Thor to meet with him.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorMindMeeting.jpgFor those who don't think Thor is adept with technology, here he uses the most advanced medical equipment in the world to determine the status of Gilgamesh.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/IntelligentMedic.jpgDonald Blake is an extremely learned man in different areas such as toxicology, which means his able to perform uncanny diagnostics and identify rare poisons unknown to people as intelligent as Tony Stark.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic44.jpgThor modifies the complex electrical components of an advanced ray for a “shocking” purpose.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/TechnologyExpert1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/TechnologyExpert2.jpgWhile Thor was still mastering his abilities, he was separated from Mjolnir and was unable to sense it. After an hour of frantic electronic experimenting, he was able to turn what was once an X-ray machine into an extraordinary locating device.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic40.jpgThor comprehends Ego's advance molecular manipulation.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/IntelligentMedic7.jpgThor isn't lacking in the planning department either as here he sets a trap and outmaneuvers Victor Von Doom himself.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic30.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/IntelligentMedic9.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/IntelligentMedic10.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/IntelligentMedic31.jpgWe get a glimpse of Thor's super genius here when he creates a green android that possesses unbreakable skin as well as super intelligence which it illustrates when it solves the worlds most complicated mathematical problem with it's 375 I.Q.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/InventsAndroid1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/InventsAndroid2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/InventsAndroid3.jpgThor's super intelligence is once more shown when Zaxton, a genius in his own right -notice how he praises Blake's intelligence and implies Blake is his superior- comes to Donald Blake for help when he needs to perfect his duplicator ray. And perfect it Thor does.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CreatesDuplicatorRay1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CreatesDuplicatorRay2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CreatesDuplicatorRay3.jpg
But that's more knowledge/expertise in fields. If you want Thor outsmarting an opponent like the scan Celes posted from Simonson's run, a good example would be Simonson's run where he forces Loki to undo his magic but it's a bit more direct/forced.
Thor is very rarely sneaky besides the time he was young or mortal. One of the rare times was the Ragnarok arc. Not sure. Unfortunately Thor isn't very strategic although JMS'/Gillen's Thor came off as very wise/cautious. Then Fraction came along.
We get a glimpse of Thor's super genius here when he creates a green android that possesses unbreakable skin as well as super intelligence which it illustrates when it solves the worlds most complicated mathematical problem with it's 375 I.Q.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...ntsAndroid1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...ntsAndroid2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...ntsAndroid3.jpgThor's super intelligence is once more shown when Zaxton, a genius in his own right -notice how he praises Blake's intelligence and implies Blake is his superior- comes to Donald Blake for help when he needs to perfect his duplicator ray. And perfect it Thor does.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...licatorRay1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...licatorRay2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...licatorRay3.jpg
Wow, never was aware of these feats. Thanks.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh too bad. I didn't want to just scan spam but whatever here:But that's more knowledge/expertise in fields. If you want Thor outsmarting an opponent like the scan Celes posted from Simonson's run, a good example would be Simonson's run where he forces Loki to undo his magic but it's a bit more direct/forced.
Thor is very rarely sneaky besides the time he was young or mortal. One of the rare times was the Ragnarok arc. Not sure. Unfortunately Thor isn't very strategic although JMS'/Gillen's Thor came off as very wise/cautious. Then Fraction came along.
There was also a few classic Avenger where Thor was more good to the cause as Blake than as Thor. One IIRC where he, T'Challa and Pym saved the day with some medical research breakthrough
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Where are these strength feats?
There is none, when Orion was fighting Firestrom Orion couldn't hold up a giant size cube of solid Orion as where Thor lifted the World engine. They are close in strength but I feel Thor will edge him out, Orion goes all out as where Thor holds, and Thor does hold he is still on equal footing with his peers.
A. SURGICAL SKILLS:
Donald Blake intelligence was obvious from the beginning as shown in this tale of his origins where he graduated with top honors.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic15.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic16.jpg
When a celebrity figure receives a dangerous gun shot wound and is sent to a multi-million dollar facility for treatment, who do they call? You guessed it.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic23.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic24.jpg
Only Doctor Blake's hands can do the miraculous operation needed to save the Whizzer's life and have him conscious and talking in a few mere hours. The Whizzer had suffered a serious heart attack, and then exerted himself running a decent distance and collapsed.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic29.jpg
Thor is just as adept in the field of medicine in his godly form as he is in his mortal form as seen here.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...igentMedic5.jpg
Donald Blake produces a masterpiece of surgical skill when he operates and saves a mans live when nobody else could.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic39.jpg
Thor's surgical abilities are so great, his called a magician.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...eatsMerlin5.jpg
Even years later after he had lost the ability to transform into Donald Blake and performed surgery, Thor's skills are still extraordinary as seen here when he saves the life of a wounded man going into shock in the middle of central park with barely any medical equipment.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic17.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic18.jpg
Another compliment about Donald Blake's matchless surgical skills after a successful operation.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic16.jpg
"Your skill as a surgeon surpasses any other I've ever seen" is not a compliment Doctor Blake is unfamiliar with.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic11.jpg
Donald Blake's colleagues have never seen surgical skill and brilliance such as his and even comment on his incredible knowledge on techniques not known to man.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...igentMedic8.jpg
When Micheal Korvac kills and then later barely revives the Avengers, it's up to Thor as Donald Blake to save their lives and he does exactly that. It should be noted that some of the Avengers had unique physiology such as the Vision.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic37.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...andsKorvac7.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic38.jpg
When the Fantastic Four need a doctor who's up there intellectually with Reed Richards, their number one choice is Donald Blake, the same Donald Blake who's one of the top ten most gifted surgeons in the world as stated here when he performs a miracle operation.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...ntMedic19-1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic21.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic22.jpg
Saves Hawkeye's eyesight by performing a highly sensitive and experimental brain operation.
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums...avesBarton1.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums...avesBarton2.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums...avesBarton3.jpg
The reason the Fantastic Four needed Donald Blake in the first place was to save the Blacksun who had recently died. Not only did Blake bring him back to life but he also reversed his cellular decay and removed his powers which turned him human with his unmatched surgical skill.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic32.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic33.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic34.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic35.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic36.jpg
When a blast from a Loki possessing Norn magic mortally wounds Sif, it is only the combined godly knowledge of Thor and Donald Blake's uncanny surgical skill that can save her.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic41.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic42.jpg
When Doctor Strange is in trouble, it's Thor who he contacts, and it's only he who has the unearthly knowledge and surgical skill to counteract the effects of a powerful spell as no modern medicine known to man could -yeah, you read it right, a spell- and save Doctor Strange's life.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic25.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic26.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic27.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic28.jpg
B. INTELLIGENCE:
Thor knows most earthly languages.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic13.jpg
When Black Bolt calls for a meeting of minds, he chooses Reed Richards and Thor to meet with him.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...MindMeeting.jpg
For those who don't think Thor is adept with technology, here he uses the most advanced medical equipment in the world to determine the status of Gilgamesh.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...ligentMedic.jpg
Donald Blake is an extremely learned man in different areas such as toxicology, which means his able to perform uncanny diagnostics and identify rare poisons unknown to people as intelligent as Tony Stark.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic44.jpg
Thor modifies the complex electrical components of an advanced ray for a “shocking” purpose.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...logyExpert1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...logyExpert2.jpg
While Thor was still mastering his abilities, he was separated from Mjolnir and was unable to sense it. After an hour of frantic electronic experimenting, he was able to turn what was once an X-ray machine into an extraordinary locating device.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic40.jpg
Thor comprehends Ego's advance molecular manipulation.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...igentMedic7.jpg
Thor isn't lacking in the planning department either as here he sets a trap and outmaneuvers Victor Von Doom himself.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic30.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...igentMedic9.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic10.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...gentMedic31.jpg
We get a glimpse of Thor's super genius here when he creates a green android that possesses unbreakable skin as well as super intelligence which it illustrates when it solves the worlds most complicated mathematical problem with it's 375 I.Q.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...ntsAndroid1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...ntsAndroid2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...ntsAndroid3.jpg
Thor's super intelligence is once more shown when Zaxton, a genius in his own right -notice how he praises Blake's intelligence and implies Blake is his superior- comes to Donald Blake for help when he needs to perfect his duplicator ray. And perfect it Thor does.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...licatorRay1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...licatorRay2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...licatorRay3.jpg
^^ This basically blows Thor intelligence rating of 2 out the door in hand books, Thor gains knowledge from his counter part Blake and Thor can understand scientific equations, how to work complex machinery, Marvel needs to revamp their power grid/ranking or don't do at all.
Basically Thor and Orion should be level 5 genius level intelligence, writers seems to hold it against that they are war gods, that my opinion.
Re: Who is the most powerful God, Thor or Orion??
Originally posted by the Darkone
Who is the most powerful God, Thor or Orion??This base on feats, actual panel feats with statements. How do they match against one another if they were part of the same universe??
Strength: Thor
Intelligence : even
Energy Projection: Thor
Energy Absorption: even
Speed: Orion
Reflexes: Orion
Flight Speed: Thor
Durability: Thor
Fighting experience/ability: Orion little more skilled
Striking power: Thor
Damage Soak: Thor
Best Berserk Rage: Thor
Inheritance of Power: Thor
Originally posted by the DarkoneLow feat. Everybody's got em.
There is none, when Orion was fighting Firestrom Orion couldn't hold up a giant size cube of solid Orion as where Thor lifted the World engine. They are close in strength but I feel Thor will edge him out, Orion goes all out as where Thor holds, and Thor does hold he is still on equal footing with his peers.
