Who is the most powerful God, Thor or Orion??

Originally posted by lawest9
Is that something that he did DO? .......or suppose to be strong enough to do?

Originally posted by leonidas
men in black......

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Originally posted by Golgo13
He constructed mother boxs as well. I t hought Red orion qas oeion with ale

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Strength: Orion
Intelligence : Thor
Energy Projection: Thor
Energy Absorption: Thor
Speed: Orion
Reflexes: Orion
Durability: Orion
Fighting experience/ability: Thor if he fights without the hammer.
Striking power: Orion
Damage Soak: Thor
Best Berserk Rage: Orion (when's the last time Thor raged...)

Originally posted by leonidas
i wondered about the creation of the box as well, but i think that might just be new gods knowledge, not sure. in general, orion might be a little smarter, but there's not a lot of support for that. red orion is orion who has gone berserk. i've always been under the impression it only happens when motherbox is not present acting as a calming influence on him. it's akin to thor's wm, but no actual numbers have been ascribed to it. basically he just goes apesh!t and tries killing anyone and anything near him.

Dcnu orion seems to be going away from that.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Do u mean source of the beast orion? Does creating the genesis box put him over in intelligence? And what about the Countdown feat?

Originally posted by ODG
Genesis Box was constructed by an alternate universe Orion.

Yes, but Orion has made MB's before as well. Mister Miracle too. I guess Most New Gods and tech just go hand and hand.

Originally posted by ODG
Genesis Box was constructed by an alternate universe Orion.

Hmm figures.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Yes, but Orion has made MB's before as well. Mister Miracle too. I guess Most New Gods and tech just go hand and hand.

Got a reference or a scan for that? How exactly did he make a motherbox? I'd like to see this for myself to know whether or not it's relevant to comparing intelligence.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hmm figures.

Got a reference or a scan for that? How exactly did he make a motherbox? I'd like to see this for myself to know whether or not it's relevant to comparing intelligence.

I think it was Pollok's run of New Gods, but NG's tech are supposed to be light years ahead of most tech.

light years are a measure of distance

Originally posted by Golgo13
I think it was Pollok's run of New Gods, but NG's tech are supposed to be light years ahead of most tech.

That doesn't in itself mean Orion is more intelligent then Thor, or anyone really. You can teach a monkey how to put something together if practiced enough, which is why I want to see the scan.

In various portrayals Asgard is technologically advanced, doesn't mean Thor is more intelligent then say, Daredevil.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That doesn't in itself mean Orion is more intelligent then Thor, or anyone really. You can teach a monkey how to put something together if practiced enough, which is why I want to see the scan.

In various portrayals Asgard is technologically advanced, doesn't mean Thor is more intelligent then say, Daredevil.

I mean on the tech side. What are you judging intelligence on? And what are some of Thor's examples?

Originally posted by Golgo13
I mean on the tech side. What are you judging intelligence on? And what are some of Thor's examples?

That's part of the problem isn't it? There are so many ways to judge intelligence. Imo, I'd look at it this way. Give the two a problem with the same amount of knowledge/resources, see who solves it first.

All the notable intelligence feats for Thor:
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,222540.msg3671438.html#msg3671438

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That's part of the problem isn't it? There are so many ways to judge intelligence. Imo, I'd look at it this way. Give the two a problem with the same amount of knowledge/resources, see who solves it first.

All the notable intelligence feats for Thor:
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,222540.msg3671438.html#msg3671438

I can't see it, since I have to login. 🙁 Anyway, I think it's hard to call intelligence without any specifics.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I can't see it, since I have to login. 🙁 Anyway, I think it's hard to call intelligence without any specifics.

I thought you had an account on Herochat?

Which is why I said split. Tbh I might give Thor the edge on average depending on how far the writer is going with the rabid dog thing Orion has from time to time. It's not even that Thor is smarter but all that rage can hinder Orion's more rational thought processes.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I thought you had an account on Herochat?

Which is why I said split. Tbh I might give Thor the edge on average depending on how far the writer is going with the rabid dog thing Orion has from time to time. It's not even that Thor is smarter but all that rage can hinder Orion's more rational thought processes.

I used to, but I forgot my password. I'm trying to get another account, but haven't heard from anyone yet, because you have to wait to get access to the boards.

Anyway, since we're on the intelligence side, who is a better tactician/strategist?

Originally posted by Golgo13
Yes, but Orion has made MB's before as well. Mister Miracle too. I guess Most New Gods and tech just go hand and hand.

Originally posted by ODG
Himon invented Motherboxes. Likely instructed them how to use, construct and repair them as well.

Yep. That and it has also been stated that technology is just an extension of the New Gods in general.

^ Mjolnir's an extension of Thor too. And he's reconstructed it several times on his own. I don't find that fact very probative of his intelligence or ingenuity. Maybe I should, but I just don't.