Orion/Superman vs Silver Surfer/Hulk vs Terrax/Firelord

Originally posted by carver9
Again, post a scan. Hulk fight people all of he time that hit with that amount of force and he doesn't go flying. His body is like a sponge, he can withstand assaults of that magnitude without pause. Now again, post a scan or concede. Its simple, post proof.

Being a sponge doesn't stop you from being hit away. Do you have any common sense? Obviously, either they didn't hit Hulk with those type of forces or writer's didn't know the physics of collisions (or chose to ignore them).

Originally posted by h1a8
Being a sponge doesn't stop you from being hit away. Do you have any common sense? Obviously, either they didn't hit Hulk with those type of forces or writer's didn't know the physics of collisions (or chose to ignore them).

So what scan or comic are you referencing? Issue # please.

Originally posted by carver9
So what scan or comic are you referencing? Issue # please.

I'm not referencing any comic. Just using common sense. Hulk doesn't have glue on his feet to prevent being lifted. A simple uppercut with forces greater than his weight would send him flying. It's not debatable so stop trolling the thread.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm not referencing any comic. Just using common sense. Hulk doesn't have glue on his feet to prevent being lifted. A simple uppercut with forces greater than his weight would send him flying. It's not debatable so stop trolling the thread.

So if I post someone uppercutting Hulk without him being bfred, would you be able to counter it with a scan?

Originally posted by carver9
So if I post someone uppercutting Hulk without him being bfred, would you be able to counter it with a scan?

If you post someone uppercutting Hulk without him being hit far away then that means they didn't hit him hard enough.

Also you are forgetting thrown. Hulk can be thrown into outer space or very far away.

Originally posted by h1a8
If you post someone uppercutting Hulk without him being hit far away then that means they didn't hit him hard enough.

Also you are forgetting thrown. Hulk can be thrown into outer space or very far away.

If I post someone in a rage, bloodlusted, uppercutting Hulk and they are a high class 100, would you be able to post a counter?

Answer my other question in the Doomsday vs Bill thread.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm not referencing any comic. Just using common sense. Hulk doesn't have glue on his feet to prevent being lifted. A simple uppercut with forces greater than his weight would send him flying. It's not debatable so stop trolling the thread.

Hulk's been able to move/push objects far heavier than himself and sustain direct hits from Cl 100s on panel w/o being tossed around like a pingpong ball. We can't start assuming that he has to follow basic rules of friction when it's obvious that he doesn't. On panel. In comics. Characters ignore the laws of physics. Call it a superpower if you want, but it happens. It's funny that you choose to ignore basic laws of physics when characters start pulling planets or flying or ppl running/flying at FTL not causing the atmosphere to burn up but can't seem to ignore COMMONLY ignored physics laws like friction coefficients just because it suits your purposes.

THAT'S not debatable so YOU stop trolling the thread.

I agree.

I guess it depends on the writer. Not every punch sends people flying, but when they have to for plot convenience they do.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Depends on the Orion and the Hulk being used, imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Such as ?

Pak/Green Scar Hulk, obviously, is an exceptionally formidable incarnation of Hulk more than capable of hanging with top tiers. Savage Hulk can, too, but Green Scar's feats ranged from highly impressive to flat out ridiculously absurd (especially if he goes Worldbreaker). Current Indestructible Hulk seems isn't any less weaker or formidable than Savage, but not on the level of Pak's Hulk, imho.

As far as Orion goes, he's got a few incarnations outside of his standard that could sway the fight one way or the other.

Ultimately, though, it's Hulk's representation that effects the outcome the most.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Pak/Green Scar Hulk, obviously, is an exceptionally formidable incarnation of Hulk more than capable of hanging with top tiers. Savage Hulk can, too, but Green Scar's feats ranged from highly impressive to flat out ridiculously absurd (especially if he goes Worldbreaker). Current Indestructible Hulk seems isn't any less weaker or formidable than Savage, but not on the level of Pak's Hulk, imho.

As far as Orion goes, he's got a few incarnations outside of his standard that could sway the fight one way or the other.

Ultimately, though, it's Hulk's representation that effects the outcome the most.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I see Paks Hulk as the ultimate version but even at standard Savage levels I feel he's too much to deal with along with the Surfed here. Power cosmic and melee, strength increasing, healing factor increasing, with Hulk, he is too much to overcome, even against Thanos. If you disagree with me Carver, meet me in the Thanos vs Hulk thread.

Let me know when you are ready bro.

Good posts friends

Originally posted by carver9
Let me know when you are ready bro.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Hulk's been able to move/push objects far heavier than himself and sustain direct hits from Cl 100s on panel w/o being tossed around like a pingpong ball. We can't start assuming that he has to follow basic rules of friction when it's obvious that he doesn't. On panel. In comics. Characters ignore the laws of physics. Call it a superpower if you want, but it happens. It's funny that you choose to ignore basic laws of physics when characters start pulling planets or flying or ppl running/flying at FTL not causing the atmosphere to burn up but can't seem to ignore COMMONLY ignored physics laws like friction coefficients just because it suits your purposes.

THAT'S not debatable so YOU stop trolling the thread.

Super power my ass. Troll that.

Originally posted by h1a8
Comic characters have many times been hit far away, into space, into other states, etc. You or Carver can't pick and choose. We must go on the one that makes most sense. It's plain retarded to assume Hulk can't be hit far away when he only weighs half a ton. Hell Namor hit him a mile away before.

Super power my ass. Troll that.

We're not talking about "comic characters", we're talking about the Hulk. Pls focus.

See? This is why I have no respect for you. You accuse ppl of "picking and choosing" when you, most of all, are the guiltiest of this in these forums. You accuse ppl of lowballing when you're the biggest lowballer here. You accuse ppl of trolling when you troll these forums the hardest (or at least ppl consider you a giant troll). You call some ppl's logic "idiotic" when even the hardcore fans of the characters you support think your logic is asinine. You accuse ppl of hypocrisy when you're the biggest hypocrite here.

That is why I show you zero respect. And I suggest you think about what I said a little bit for your own good if you have any self respect whatsoever.

Yes, Hulk can be knocked away. But acting like it's going to happen immediately all the time is asinine. Comics can, has and will ignore physics otherwise none of the "feats" they perform will be possible. Pushing, tanking punches from strong opponents, throwing objects far heavier than them away, etc. these all would not be possible. Hulk has many many times tanked punches from Cl100's w/o so much as being pushed back. There are times where he gets tossed but we need establish context for those AND to average out how often it has happened within his numerous showings for us to determine how plausible said tactic against Hulk would be in a forum fight. Following your logic, even Spiderman (who is a class 10) braced against a solid surface should be able to toss Hulk easily around with punches. Does that happen in comics? Not really. You see in these forums primary sources of proof such as scans overrule basic "logical assumptions". And for every 1 scan you can provide where Hulk was tossed by punches, I can provde 3 scans where he stood and just took it without so much as being pushed back.

Care to go on a scan war to establish averages about where Hulk has been BFRd via punches/strikes or gotten tossed in space? I'm sure a few ppl here can help us both out.

Get your head out of your butt, stop trolling and debate with an open mind, present your opinions as opinions and your facts with scans and solid logic that ppl can agree with and you'll start getting some respect around here. And please: Stop lowballing, stop picking and choosing, stop being a hypocrite and understand that many times your logic sux and many times you need to establish your "logic" before presenting it as fact (use terms like IIRC, IMO or "correct me if I'm wrong" or "I think" if you've yet to establish it). Ppl will respect you more. I say all this not to flame or troll you but I say all this because I think someone needs to tell you.

That is of course, unless your intention is to simply troll, and if that's the case kudos, you've certainly managed to bait a TON of ppl and managed to keep from getting banned, so props for that.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
We're not talking about "comic characters", we're talking about the Hulk. Pls focus.

See? This is why I have no respect for you. You accuse ppl of "picking and choosing" when you, most of all, are the guiltiest of this in these forums. You accuse ppl of lowballing when you're the biggest lowballer here. You accuse ppl of trolling when you troll these forums the hardest (or at least ppl consider you a giant troll). You call some ppl's logic "idiotic" when even the hardcore fans of the characters you support think your logic is asinine. You accuse ppl of hypocrisy when you're the biggest hypocrite here.

That is why I show you zero respect. And I suggest you think about what I said a little bit for your own good if you have any self respect whatsoever.

Yes, Hulk can be knocked away. But acting like it's going to happen immediately all the time is asinine. Comics can, has and will ignore physics otherwise none of the "feats" they perform will be possible. Pushing, tanking punches from strong opponents, throwing objects far heavier than them away, etc. these all would not be possible. Hulk has many many times tanked punches from Cl100's w/o so much as being pushed back. There are times where he gets tossed but we need establish context for those AND to average out how often it has happened within his numerous showings for us to determine how plausible said tactic against Hulk would be in a forum fight. Following your logic, even Spiderman (who is a class 10) braced against a solid surface should be able to toss Hulk easily around with punches. Does that happen in comics? Not really. You see in these forums primary sources of proof such as scans overrule basic "logical assumptions". And for every 1 scan you can provide where Hulk was tossed by punches, I can provde 3 scans where he stood and just took it without so much as being pushed back.

Care to go on a scan war to establish averages about where Hulk has been BFRd via punches/strikes or gotten tossed in space? I'm sure a few ppl here can help us both out.

Get your head out of your butt, stop trolling and debate with an open mind, present your opinions as opinions and your facts with scans and solid logic that ppl can agree with and you'll start getting some respect around here. And please: Stop lowballing, stop picking and choosing, stop being a hypocrite and understand that many times your logic sux and many times you need to establish your "logic" before presenting it as fact (use terms like IIRC, IMO or "correct me if I'm wrong" or "I think" if you've yet to establish it). Ppl will respect you more. I say all this not to flame or troll you but I say all this because I think someone needs to tell you.

That is of course, unless your intention is to simply troll, and if that's the case kudos, you've certainly managed to bait a TON of ppl and managed to keep from getting banned, so props for that.

💃 I honestly do think he does what he does on purpose, to get people riled up and probably laughing at us getting irritated by it. That's why I don't waste my time with him.

So, BFR is in effect? Can Orion use boom tube?

How often has current Orion used it as a combat tactic?

^^ How many appearances does current Orion have?