Orion/Superman vs Silver Surfer/Hulk vs Terrax/Firelord

Before I continue and post the rest of my arguments, I do not wanna waste my time with ppl who do NOT read OP stips or forum rules, Thus I will post a portion of my reply ahead of time in the hopes that SOMEONE would realize that they might be talking about the wrong person here.

Originally posted by h1a8
Surfer is not the fastest one here. Superman is. Superman is significantly faster than Surfer in combat. It takes Surfer a fraction longer to build his speed. Also Surfer doesn't fight that way. He wouldn't think of such things. Otherwise Superman would vibrate all day and sing everyone out of existence.

Now you're lowballing Surfer. This is DCnU Superman., and Orion, please post scans that prove that DCnU Superman can even keep up with Surfer (whose accelarated to millions of times light speed in seconds).

Let me get this straight, Surfer, who has fought the majority of his career at a range on a board is NOT gonna pick up his teammate that got tossed into space because (even though he has cosmic awareness) isn't going to be able to THINK of such things? Even though, it'd be a good idea to try and pick up his teammate, even though there's no one here who can stop him from doing so...

Yet, Superman and Orion is automatically gonna figure out the BFR Hulk route, THEN gang up on Surfer? Even though they have 2 other enemies on the field, even though they really don't have the history of engaging the BFR route and just leaving their opponents to float in space, even though the instances wherein Hulk has been BFRd to space recently has been 1) An all out Thor and 2) Starbrand.

Yeah, lowball much?

Waiiiit, singing and vibrating ppl out of existence??? Do you STILL not know that this is DCnU Superman when it's been explained time and again that it is?? Are you wasting my time here??

H1 just debates out of respect threads.

shat da Fuq up nibedicus. you're wrong. so wrong carver is crying in a corner.

You effin' noob. uhuh

Originally posted by Zack Fair
shat da Fuq up nibedicus. you're wrong. so wrong carver is crying in a corner.

You effin' noob. uhuh

Originally posted by Zack Fair
shat da Fuq up nibedicus. you're wrong. so wrong carver is crying in a corner.

You effin' noob. uhuh

Cry moar!!!

uhuh

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Originally posted by Nibedicus
Cry moar!!!

uhuh

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Originally posted by carver9
I didn't report him. H1 asked for a scan of Hulk being uppercutted by a class 100 then when someone posts it, he comes up with another excuse.

I didn't come up with another excuse.

I posted this the right before I ask for a scan

"Also you don't understand that characters have variable strength showings in comics. Not all the time they are hitting with forces they have shown before. Otherwise Glads is always hitting with planet destroying power.
So it makes more since that if a character doesn't get hit away then the hit wasn't strong enough."

I said if you show me then you would have a leg to stand on. Doesn't mean you win. Remember comics shows it both ways Carver. Hulk has been hit far away and also he hasn't. Which makes more sense though?

Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't come up with another excuse.

I posted this the right before I ask for a scan

"Also you don't understand that characters have variable strength showings in comics. Not all the time they are hitting with forces they have shown before. Otherwise Glads is always hitting with planet destroying power.
So it makes more since that if a character doesn't get hit away then the hit wasn't strong enough."

I said if you show me then you would have a leg to stand on. Doesn't mean you win. Remember comics shows it both ways Carver. Hulk has been hit far away and also he hasn't. Which makes more sense though?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Before I continue and post the rest of my arguments, I do not wanna waste my time with ppl who do NOT read OP stips or forum rules, Thus I will post a portion of my reply ahead of time in the hopes that SOMEONE would realize that they might be talking about the wrong person here.

Now you're lowballing Surfer. This is DCnU Superman., and Orion, please post scans that prove that DCnU Superman can even keep up with Surfer (whose accelarated to millions of times light speed in seconds).

Let me get this straight, Surfer, who has fought the majority of his career at a range on a board is NOT gonna pick up his teammate that got tossed into space because (even though he has cosmic awareness) isn't going to be able to THINK of such things? Even though, it'd be a good idea to try and pick up his teammate, even though there's no one here who can stop him from doing so...

Yet, Superman and Orion is automatically gonna figure out the BFR Hulk route, THEN gang up on Surfer? Even though they have 2 other enemies on the field, even though they really don't have the history of engaging the BFR route and just leaving their opponents to float in space, even though the instances wherein Hulk has been BFRd to space recently has been 1) An all out Thor and 2) Starbrand.

Yeah, lowball much?

Waiiiit, singing and vibrating ppl out of existence??? Do you STILL not know that this is DCnU Superman when it's been explained time and again that it is?? Are you wasting my time here??

Stop tripping. Surfer has done dumber things than that. I mean some really dumb shit. Hell members here are saying that Superman is so dumb that he will purposely not use his speed and reflexes for the most part. You can't have it both ways. People neuter Superman all the time and thus other characters have to be neutered as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You need to support your case. That's the bottom line.

I did. I mentioned instances of Hulk being hit far away. He has been hit into space, miles away by Namor, etc.
Other strong ass characters have been hit into space or very far away as well.

Originally posted by h1a8
I did. I mentioned instances of Hulk being hit far away. He has been hit into space, miles away by Namor, etc.
Other strong ass characters have been hit into space or very far away as well.

Originally posted by h1a8
If this is DCnU Superman then team 3 wins. Surfer is fastest here.

Glad we have that out of the way, I swear, it's almost a chore to keep trying to explain to you what's happening in each thread. Are you dyslexic or something? You seem to miss out on important portions of each scan/thread. Do you just speed read or what?

Originally posted by h1a8
Stop tripping. Surfer has done dumber things than that. I mean some really dumb shit. Hell members here are saying that Superman is so dumb that he will purposely not use his speed and reflexes for the most part. You can't have it both ways. People neuter Superman all the time and thus other characters have to be neutered as well.

I'm not tripping. My posting style is different with you compared to how I communicate with other posters because I want you to see clearly (as I've noticed you're quite dense) the flaws and biases of your argumentation. Basically, to point out first what kind of logical fallacy you're guilty of.

Anyway....

Before we continue as per rules AND the OP himself, this is DCnU versions of Superman and Orion, I take it you've conceded that Team 1 DOES NOT win this? Just to be clear (yes/no).

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Glad we have that out of the way, I swear, it's almost a chore to keep trying to explain to you what's happening in each thread. Are you dyslexic or something? You seem to miss out on important portions of each scan/thread. Do you just speed read or what?

I'm not tripping. My posting style is different with you compared to how I communicate with other posters because I want you to see clearly (as I've noticed you're quite dense) the flaws and biases of your argumentation. Basically, to point out first what kind of logical fallacy you're guilty of.

Anyway....

Before we continue as per rules AND the OP himself, this is DCnU versions of Superman and Orion, I take it you've conceded that Team 1 DOES NOT win this? Just to be clear (yes/no).

I only read the OP. I don't read through everyone's post. Guy did clarify current characters later though.

Yes team 1 does not win here. That is clear.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
If you're talking about Starbrand, he was blasted not punched. Accuracy is important, you know.

I was thinking of Thor vs Nul.
But since you brought up the starbrand, do you think that superman can't create the force equal to the blast that sent hulk into space? Low ball much? or just poor debating tactics?

Originally posted by Nibedicus

My comment was in reply to this:

So I think I have enough grounds to actually debate against it.

Sure worked when Gladiator tried it, right? 🙄

And that's supposed to prove what? Gladiator isn't superman..

Originally posted by Nibedicus

Well apparently you care, you took the time to post a response in h1's defense. Didn't know you cared. Ain't that sweet...

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Originally posted by Nibedicus

Still with the whole nabisco schtick? What're you 9? /SMH.

Originally posted by Nibedicus

Read the rules. Here's a link in case you can't find it.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t461496.html

Originally posted by Nibedicus

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Pathetic.

Originally posted by h1a8
I only read the OP. I don't read through everyone's post. Guy did clarify current characters later though.

Yes team 1 does not win here. That is clear.

Good. Honestly, that's progress. Glad I didn't waste time typing up 4-5 paragraphs on a non-debate then.

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Now, exactly why is team 3 winning? So I can formulate my counter argument.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The majority of the evidence supports him not being able to be bfrd easily. Post the scans. You don't really talk about specific examples. That is by design. Put up or shut up.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Good. Honestly, that's progress. Glad I didn't waste time typing up 4-5 paragraphs on a non-debate then.

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Now, exactly why is team 3 winning? So I can formulate my counter argument.

Team 1 wins.

Orion will physically maul SS.
Superman knocks out the hulk or bfr him into space. If SS tries to play fetch the hulk, he gets an astro force blast to his cranium.

Originally posted by Diesldude
It is important, but you should stop with the assumptions. It makes you look dumber than you really are.

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Does acting like a wanna be kindergarten bully make you feel better about yourself or something? I'd be offended if I didn't find it so adorable.

Originally posted by Diesldude
I was thinking of Thor vs Nul.

Thor didn't punch him either.

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Originally posted by Diesldude
It's not like the hulk wasn't punched into outer space recently.

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Originally posted by Diesldude
But since you brought up the starbrand, do you think that superman can't create the force equal to the blast that sent hulk into space? Low ball much? or just poor debating tactics?

Oh, I'm more than willing to debate a thread:

"Thor's mightiest Mjolnir slam vs DCnU Superman's strongest punch"

or

"Starbrand vs DCnU Superman: who has a stronger attack?"

With you any day. Care to make one?

Originally posted by Diesldude
And that's supposed to prove what? Gladiator isn't superman..

As we're arguing about a matchup between two characters that have never faced off before and I'm simply using a character with similar powersets and with comparable "feats" attempting the very same tactic that you're suggesting, one would think you'd see the relevance of the logic.

Of course, thru your kaleidoscope Superman shades, I'm sure it doesn't really makes sense to you.

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Originally posted by Diesldude
Like I said who cares about your respect and admiration towards others here.
Btw.. When you laughed, i pictured u, carver and quan..

You apparently do as I wasn't addressing you, at all, as this was something that really had nothing to do with you. And as the person I was referring to in my post seem to actually take it much better than you did.

And yet here you are, taking the time and effort to post gifs and thump your chest like an angry baboon.

You seem to care very much.

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Originally posted by Diesldude
Nabisco!!

Beware everyone! h1's white knight has come.

See him defend h1's mighty logic with his own knowledge of the rules!.

Anger him not for if you do:

He will CHANGE... YOUR ...NAMMMEEE! From carver to carter! From quanchi to kwanzi! From Jakethebank to Jakethebunk! Fear his awesome witticisms, his astute will-breaking verbal abuse on which you cannot denyyyyy!

OOOoooooOO! /spookyfingers

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Originally posted by Diesldude
Thanks for linking to a sticky thread.

With comments like this:

Originally posted by Diesldude
I'll admit I don't know if using his per dcnu feats are allowed because he hasn't made enough appearances.

One would think that you need to review the rules. Want me to quote the actual relevant rule in case you missed it?

"Unless specified by the thread starter, only current-version canon feats are allowed."

You're welcome.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Pathetic.

Really? Coming from a guy whose entire debating repertoire is composed of changing someone's name?

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Originally posted by Nibedicus
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Does acting like a wanna be kindergarten bully make you feel better about yourself or something? I'd be offended if I didn't find it so adorable.

Originally posted by Nibedicus

Thor didn't punch him either.

Originally posted by Nibedicus

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Originally posted by Nibedicus

As we're arguing about a matchup between two characters that have never faced off before and I'm simply using a character with similar powersets and with comparable "feats" attempting the very same tactic that you're suggesting, one would think you'd see the relevance of the logic.

Of course, thru your kaleidoscope Superman shades, I'm sure it doesn't really makes sense to you.

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Originally posted by Nibedicus

You apparently do as I wasn't addressing you, at all, as this was something that really had nothing to do with you. And as the person I was referring to in my post seem to actually take it much better than you did.

And yet here you are, taking the time and effort to post gifs and thump your chest like an angry baboon.

You seem to care very much.

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I pointed out that no one cares if you respect h1 or not. How does pointing this out makes me care?

Originally posted by Nibedicus

With comments like this:

One would think that you need to review the rules. Want me to quote the actual relevant rule in case you missed it?

"Unless specified by the thread starter, only current-version canon feats are allowed."

You're welcome.

How many appearances does Orion have in DCNU?
2-3? He doesn't have enough appearances to be in this thread, so my question was warranted. Of course when you need help connecting dots, you'll run rampant with your stupidity thinking you got the better of someone and try to flaunt it while everyone laughs at your idiocy. Did you fail to see/read "because he hasn't made enough appearances" part?
Do you want me to break that down for your idiot?

Since only current-version canon feats are allowed, I wanted to know if an exception can be made because orion doesn't have enough appearances. What's so wrong with what I asked that it made you go out of your way to look like a fool?

Originally posted by Nibedicus

Really? Coming from a guy whose entire debating repertoire is composed of changing someone's name?

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Who said we were debating? Yes we have opposing point of view, but the heightened deficiencies in your head gear prevents you from deliberating my pov due to your comprehension fail .

Adorable right?