Thor vs GL Hal

Started by abhilegend8 pages

That was full power parallax just after killing Time Trapper.

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Here, Hal clearly hurt or at the very least discomforted ZH Parallax by swinging him by his cape into a building pillar. I see no constructs there or anything to suggest Hal's strength had been amplified beyond his baseline human strength, nor do I see anything suggesting Parallax amped his durability. And if he did...well, it wasn't enough to stop him from clearly feeling the impact of that blow.

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Here, once Parallax let his guard down, in shock that his younger self could know about Ollie's death, he's hit with enough force to send him flying into a car, which also caused him pain or discomfort.

Do you really think Thor can't replicate the same things if put in the exact same position as Hal? He's certainly hurt people a helluva lot more durable than what Parallax showed here. And if Parallax was handicapping himself and more concerned with justifying his actions to Thor than trying to blink him away from existence, there's nothing from the world of comics - either GL books or Thor ones - to argue against him effecting Parallax as well as Hal did.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Such as what?
What?
Would you rather we just said "phuck context!"? Because that would get us nowhere. And you're deluded if you don't think there's a crapload of context to Hal "stalemating" ZH Parallax.
Bring all the context.
Hal's high end feats aren't superior to Thor's, especially when Thor has a weapon that basically counters pretty much everything Hal can do offensively and defensively.
You think just because Thor has mjolnir, hal can't do anything to him? Since when is somebody's high end feats are invalid just because someone else has a counter for their attacks? That's like saying Thor's best feats don't matter to superman since he's so much faster that none of thor's attacks would hit him.

So Parallax fighting down to Hal's level, trying to convince him that he's not off his rocker and that he's the best thing for the universe means nothing?
Bring proof of this theory of yours that Parallax was fighting down to hal's level. I can say that about everyone of thor's feats like the celestials were firing blasts on thor's level. Seriously get over yourself, your word isn't law.
Yeah, no, that's part of the context you want to ignore in order to get to the conclusion that a time displaced young Hal Jordan is equal in power to ZH Parallax...which is so utterly asinine I'm still not convinced you're not just messing with people here. If ZH Parallax fought Thor with the same intent and conviction he fought Hal - trying to talk reason into him and get him to see how right he is - Thor would easily be able to cause him as much pain and discomfort that Hal did. Getting slammed into boulders and cars and cement pillars is well within Thor's ability to do to Parallax.
Hypothetical scenarios aside, I can say that about everything thor did too. If hal was in place of thor he can do everything thor did. See how that works.

So Green Lantern energy, provided by willpower, isn't a part of the electromagnetic emotional spectrum?
Emotional spectrum, yes. EM spectrum, no.
[b]What? So you think a Manhunter's skull is more effective at energy absorbing than Mjolnir is just because it's designed to siphon energy from a power ring...even though Mjolnir's contained far larger amounts of energy?
That's like since superman absorbed the anti-sun, he's better at manhunters in absorbing the power ring. Different applications.
That's insane. Thor's absorbed everything from high end sorcery to radiation to electromagnetic energy to energy from the Phoenix Force to the Power Cosmic but a power ring is beyond him?
They all exist within the EM spectrum. GL ring don't.
Why? Give me one good reason a power ring is beyond Mjolnir's capabilities to absorb outside of it being emotional energy.
Hal's willpower and control of his energies.

Okay. Thor's hurt vastly more durable beings than that which ZH Parallax shown in that fight, some of which displayed greater power output than what he also showed in that fight.
Name those beings.
Unless you want to ignore the specifics of that actual fight and instead reverse project ZH Parallax's full powered feats instead of focusing on the fact he was using anything but his full power against Hal.
Say what? That was full power parallax. You are making no sense here.

Seriously, do you think Thor grabbing Parallax by his cape and swinging him into a pillar is beyond his means to do? Or that Parallax wouldn't feel it? Do you think Thor couldn't send a surprised Parallax crashing into a car or rubble?
He can do that. Stalemate him in a contest of power? Phuck no.

C'mon. [/B]
C'mon yourself. Wall of text ftw.

You are both making understandable points and I'm really enjoying reading this. I hope this discussion continues.

Originally posted by Odekahn
You are both making understandable points and I'm really enjoying reading this. I hope this discussion continues.

That's what happens when we argue.

uhuh

Originally posted by abhilegend
What?

Lol.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Bring all the context.

The context to Hal and ZH Parallax is abundantly clear given the dialogue. I know you may want to throw that out and ignore it so that it appears as if a time displaced weaker Hal Jordan somehow is equal to him as a fully powered ZH Parallax (WTF), but that's not how it works.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You think just because Thor has mjolnir, hal can't do anything to him? Since when is somebody's high end feats are invalid just because someone else has a counter for their attacks? That's like saying Thor's best feats don't matter to superman since he's so much faster that none of thor's attacks would hit him.

Where did I say that Mjolnir means Hal can't do anything to him? Hal can and would put up a fight, but Mjolnir is such an advantageous weapon to have against someone like a Green Lantern, whose powers come from a finite charge. Superman also has jack-all to do with this. facepalm Thor has incredible energy absorbing/redirecting/blocking feats. It's a no brainer that it gives him an edge against a character whose primary form of offense comes from energy blasts and weapons made of pure energy.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Bring proof of this theory of yours that Parallax was fighting down to hal's level. I can say that about everyone of thor's feats like the celestials were firing blasts on thor's level. Seriously get over yourself, your word isn't law.

You want proof that ZH Parallax was fighting down to Hal's level? Uh, how about the fact that he specifically said he wasn't trying to kill him for one as well as the fact that he didn't trash Hal six ways from Sunday with the ease he should have? Either ZH Parallax was a universal power greatly withholding his power against Hal, or Hal was a universal power and on par with an older and more powerful version of himself. One of these is beyond stupid to even consider being a possibility. Parallax himself even said it's not about "willpower" but just "power", power which Hal had nearly infinite supply of. As far as the Celestials go, there were on panel trying to down Thor with swift and merciless attacks, not trying to convince Thor that they were the good guys. And they displayed durability beyond that of ZH Parallax in that story as well. I never said my word was law, either. 😬

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hypothetical scenarios aside, I can say that about everything thor did too. If hal was in place of thor he can do everything thor did. See how that works.

What? I actually provided reasoning for my stance, not just "anything Hal can do, Thor can do as well". Thor's physically far stronger than Hal Jordan is. Why can't he grab Parallax's cape and toss him into a pillar with at least just as much force? Why can't Thor stun and hurt a shocked Parallax when he drops his guard with a Mjolnir throw? The fact you're refusing to answer this speaks volumes.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Emotional spectrum, yes. EM spectrum, no.

It's been referred to as the Emotional Electromagnetic Spectrum. Regardless, there's nothing "special" about it that makes it unable to be manipulated or absorbed by Mjolnir, not when compared to everything else Mjolnir's effected.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's like since superman absorbed the anti-sun, he's better at manhunters in absorbing the power ring. Different applications.

Christ, again with Superman. I get it. We all get it: You like Superman. But Superman doesn't have a storied history of regularly absorbing energy that's not sunlight or a derivative of it on the fly like Mjolnir has.

Originally posted by abhilegend
They all exist within the EM spectrum. GL ring don't.

So Thor's storied history of absorbing everything from natural energy to cosmic energy to magic to the primal life force energy of the Phoenix and everything in between doesn't begin to paint the picture that Mjolnir, by its history, can absorb GL energy? There's way more evidence, overwhelmingly so, to suggest that Thor can absorb almost any kind of energy than there is against it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hal's willpower and control of his energies.

Heralds of Galactus have a great sense of control over their energy. Hasn't stopped Mjolnir from absorbing it. So do a lot of the other beings Thor's absorbed energy from. The answer "Hal's will" isn't an answer.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Name those beings.

Thor's hurt herald beings who are more physically durable than what ZH Parallax showed. 😬 Also, Thor's damaged those Celestials you brought up.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Say what? That was full power parallax. You are making no sense here.

Full Power Parallax not using said full power or anything close to it against Hal Jordan. What am I missing here?

Originally posted by abhilegend
He can do that. Stalemate him in a contest of power? Phuck no.

That stalemate lasted for seconds and was interrupted by an outside force. The only thing Hal "stalemated" was Parallax' will - assuming the dialogue is to be accepted at face value. But Parallax himself boasted it wasn't about willpower, but rather just power itself, of which he was a great deal of. How does that make this feat > anything Thor's ever done? The fact you admitted Thor can perform those things just proves my point. But what do you want? Thor to "stalemate" someone in a test of power not using his full power against him before said "stalemate" is interrupted from an outside force?

Originally posted by abhilegend
C'mon yourself. Wall of text ftw.

😐

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Lol.
😐

The context to Hal and ZH Parallax is abundantly clear given the dialogue. I know you may want to throw that out and ignore it so that it appears as if a time displaced weaker Hal Jordan somehow is equal to him as a fully powered ZH Parallax (WTF), but that's not how it works.
It isn't. You have zero proof of Parallax holding back just because he was talking to hal. Like I said your word isn't law.

Where did I say that Mjolnir means Hal can't do anything to him?
You said mjolnir can counter anything hal can do. Leaves hal with nothing. Energy beings have never beaten thor, right?
Hal can and would put up a fight, but Mjolnir is such an advantageous weapon to have against someone like a Green Lantern, whose powers come from a finite charge.
More like send mjolnir to the other side of the universe and blast the shit out of thor.
Superman also has jack-all to do with this.
Why not? Your argument is that Thor has absorbed insane amount of energy, well superman has too.
Thor has incredible energy absorbing/redirecting/blocking feats. It's a no brainer that it gives him an edge against a character whose primary form of offense comes from energy blasts and weapons made of pure energy.
Thor doesn't have any feats to suggest he can absorb emotional spectrum. People who have manipulated energies outside EM spectrum like Dr. Light have been unable to manipulate it. I don't see why Thor is an exception.

You want proof that ZH Parallax was fighting down to Hal's level?
Yes.
Uh, how about the fact that he specifically said he wasn't trying to kill him for one as well as the fact that he didn't trash Hal six ways from Sunday with the ease he should have?
Characters don't start bloodlusted. That's why its an high end feat. That's like saying Thor surviving celestials is invalid since they should've killed him instantly. Double standards ftw.
Either ZH Parallax was a universal power greatly withholding his power against Hal, or Hal was a universal power and on par with an older and more powerful version of himself. One of these is beyond stupid to even consider being a possibility. Parallax himself even said it's not about "willpower" but just "power", power which Hal had nearly infinite supply of. As far as the Celestials go, there were on panel trying to down Thor with swift and merciless attacks, not trying to convince Thor that they were the good guys. And they displayed durability beyond that of ZH Parallax in that story as well. I never said my word was law, either. 😬
So one is valid and other is not. Nice of you being a hypocrite like rest of your thorbags kin. You can nitpick it till you are blue in the face. Either accept Thor surviving attacks from celestials when they slag odin destroyer is stupid too or accept that you're a hypocrite thorbag.

What? I actually provided reasoning for my stance, not just "anything Hal can do, Thor can do as well". Thor's physically far stronger than Hal Jordan is. Why can't he grab Parallax's cape and toss him into a pillar with at least just as much force? Why can't Thor stun and hurt a shocked Parallax when he drops his guard with a Mjolnir throw? The fact you're refusing to answer this speaks volumes.
I said he can do that. Read carefully next time.

It's been referred to as the Emotional Electromagnetic Spectrum. Regardless, there's nothing "special" about it that makes it unable to be manipulated or absorbed by Mjolnir, not when compared to everything else Mjolnir's effected.
So your favorite "Thor's history proves it" tactic, eh? Not impressed jake. Try again.

Christ, [b]again with Superman. I get it. We all get it: You like Superman. But Superman doesn't have a storied history of regularly absorbing energy that's not sunlight or a derivative of it on the fly like Mjolnir has.
Superman absorbed a whole sun which was negating his powers. Mjolnir's best feat is what, absorbing null bomb which was just enough to ignite a sun? Pretty comparable if you ask me.

So Thor's storied history of absorbing everything from natural energy to cosmic energy to magic to the primal life force energy of the Phoenix and everything in between doesn't begin to paint the picture that Mjolnir, by its history, can absorb GL energy?
Dr. Light has absorbed and manipulated natural energy, magical energy, cosmic energy and all that shit. He was still unable to manipulate GL energy. So no.
There's way more evidence, overwhelmingly so, to suggest that Thor can absorb almost any kind of energy than there is against it.
No limit fallacy ftw.

Heralds of Galactus have a great sense of control over their energy. Hasn't stopped Mjolnir from absorbing it.
From their bodies? Give me one example. Absorbing blasts doesn't mean shit.
So do a lot of the other beings Thor's absorbed energy from. The answer "Hal's will" isn't an answer.
Yes it is.

Thor's hurt herald beings who are more physically durable than what ZH Parallax showed. 😬
ZH parallax isn't bound by that showing alone.
Also, Thor's damaged those Celestials you brought up.
They are below ZH parallax.

Full Power Parallax not using said full power or anything close to it against Hal Jordan.
Again with this shit? Quit shoving your opinion as proof already.
What am I missing here?
Your common sense.

That stalemate lasted for seconds and was interrupted by an outside force. The only thing Hal "stalemated" was Parallax' will - assuming the dialogue is to be accepted at face value. But Parallax himself boasted it wasn't about willpower, but rather just power itself, of which he was a great deal of. How does that make this feat > anything Thor's ever done?
Show me anything comparable from thor.
The fact you admitted Thor can perform those things just proves my point.
Thor can slam Parallax in a pillar. Happy?
But what do you want? Thor to "stalemate" someone in a test of power not using his full power against him before said "stalemate" is interrupted from an outside force?
Blah, blah, blah. Show a proof already. I'm tired of your bullshit already. Next time you write a wall of text, I'm ignoring it completely. Hal sends mjolnir to the other side of the universe and uses a krona buster. Thor loses. Get it?

😐 [/B]
My thoughts exactly seeing your bullshit.

So to sum things up:

- You think that ZH Parallax [i]wasn't holding back against Hal...in spite of the fact that he clearly said he wasn't trying to kill him and was very clearly trying to convince him that he was right in his actions to try and rewrite the universe.

- Don't believe Mjolnir offers Thor a significant advantage against Hal and also believe he can send Mjolnir to the other end of the universe and just Krona Buster him without much effort.

- Insist on bringing up Superman because...well, I'm still trying to figure that one out outside of you just really liking the guy.

- Compare Dr. Light to Mjolnir and somehow think Thor's track record of manipulating various kinds of energies regardless of their source isn't enough evidence to suggest that he'd be able to do the same to a power ring.

- You compare ZH Parallax NOT trying to kill Hal to the Celestials attacking Thor without mercy and then get compare the two as being the exact same sort of thing...even though the Celestials never tried to appeal to Thor's better nature and wanted him dispatched easily. The Celestials were also portrayed on a higher level in that issue than ZH Parallax...who was getting hurt by pillars, rubble, and cars.

- Admit you're not impressed by Thor's history...even though the evidence is abundantly in his favor of being able to manipulate/absorb energy regardless of the source.

- Again, for whatever reason outside of you having an apparent fixation for the guy, bring up Superman and somehow compare him to Mjolnir's absorbing capabilities like they're even on the same page the vast majority of the time.

- Think that ZH Parallax was displaying power in his fight with Hal beyond what the Celestials displayed when they attacked Thor.[/i]

And have the ever pleasant same old Abhitude that constantly gets mods involved because you're being a prick all the while, personally attacking people who disagree with your "interpretation" of events or call you out on them and then haughtily responding with "I'm gonna ignore your bullshit" while spouting some highly implausible scenario of how you see things going because your jimmies are rustled.

It's a sad and pathetic cycle. And it doesn't fool anyone. *cue "stop appealing to the masses"/"general consensus doesn't mean shit because I'm always right" retort*

I'm honestly surprised you've not been banned. Probably because when you're not being a hyper aggressive and defensive zealot, you have the potential to make sense. But once someone says something you don't like, it's basically OWAW Abhi time, complete with hissy fits, personal attacks, lowballing, and trolling.

By all means, though, proceed. Fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly, etc.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So to sum things up:

- You think that ZH Parallax [i]wasn't holding back against Hal...in spite of the fact that he clearly said he wasn't trying to kill him and was very clearly trying to convince him that he was right in his actions to try and rewrite the universe.

Never said that.

- Don't believe Mjolnir offers Thor a significant advantage against Hal and also believe he can send Mjolnir to the other end of the universe and just Krona Buster him without much effort.
He can certainly send mjolnir to the other side of the universe. He's done that to his power battery countless times.

- Insist on bringing up Superman because...well, I'm still trying to figure that one out outside of you just really liking the guy.
Because he's relevant to the discussion.

- Compare Dr. Light to Mjolnir and somehow think Thor's track record of manipulating various kinds of energies regardless of their source isn't enough evidence to suggest that he'd be able to do the same to a power ring.
Comparing two energy manipulators isn't outside the realm of possibility. Don't throw a hissy fit at your precious thor being compared to anybody short of galactus.

- You compare ZH Parallax NOT trying to kill Hal to the Celestials attacking Thor without mercy and then get compare the two as being the exact same sort of thing...even though the Celestials never tried to appeal to Thor's better nature and wanted him dispatched easily.
I compare ZH Parallax battling hal to thor being an insect to celestials.
The Celestials were also portrayed on a higher level in that issue than ZH Parallax...who was getting hurt by pillars, rubble, and cars.
And now you're straight up lowballing as if ZH parallax is confined to his GL 106 showings.

- Admit you're not impressed by Thor's history...even though the evidence is abundantly in his favor of being able to manipulate/absorb energy regardless of the source.
Never said that either.

- Again, for whatever reason outside of you having an apparent fixation for the guy, bring up Superman and somehow compare him to Mjolnir's absorbing capabilities like they're even on the same page the vast majority of the time.
At their highest, they both absorbed a sun. I know your Thor is a universal entity but don't start whining at anybody having the edge on him.

- Think that ZH Parallax was displaying power in his fight with Hal beyond what the Celestials displayed when they attacked Thor.[/i]
And now posting your own interpretation as proof yet again.

And have the ever pleasant same old Abhitude that constantly gets mods involved because you're being a prick all the while, personally attacking people who disagree with your "interpretation" of events or call you out on them and then haughtily responding with "I'm gonna ignore your bullshit" while spouting some highly implausible scenario of how you see things going because your jimmies are rustled.
I haven't attacked you a single time here. Calling your bullshit, well a bullshit isn't attacking you. Typical Jake, typical. Don't start to ***** now.

It's a sad and pathetic cycle. And it doesn't fool anyone. *cue "stop appealing to the masses"/"general consensus doesn't mean shit because I'm always right" retort*
Ah, the ole' "majority consensus". You are so predictable.

I'm honestly surprised you've not been banned.
Quit backseat modding.
Probably because when you're not being a hyper aggressive and defensive zealot, you have the potential to make sense. But once someone says something you don't like, it's basically OWAW Abhi time, complete with hissy fits, personal attacks, lowballing, and trolling.
You are the one trolling and lowballing here jake. Quit acting like you're a saint or something and not a raging thorbag who throws a hissy fit everytime somebody posts against his precious thor.

By all means, though, proceed. Fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly, etc.
Jake's being jake and a thorbag. All is well.

Originally posted by Dampyre
Thor wins. Hal Jordan isn't a match for any of the top 3 heralds, IMO.

Good that he isn't fighting Kyle, Superman and Wally then.

Hal ftw.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So to sum things up:

- You think that ZH Parallax [i]wasn't holding back against Hal...in spite of the fact that he clearly said he wasn't trying to kill him and was very clearly trying to convince him that he was right in his actions to try and rewrite the universe.

- Don't believe Mjolnir offers Thor a significant advantage against Hal and also believe he can send Mjolnir to the other end of the universe and just Krona Buster him without much effort.

- Insist on bringing up Superman because...well, I'm still trying to figure that one out outside of you just really liking the guy.

- Compare Dr. Light to Mjolnir and somehow think Thor's track record of manipulating various kinds of energies regardless of their source isn't enough evidence to suggest that he'd be able to do the same to a power ring.

- You compare ZH Parallax NOT trying to kill Hal to the Celestials attacking Thor without mercy and then get compare the two as being the exact same sort of thing...even though the Celestials never tried to appeal to Thor's better nature and wanted him dispatched easily. The Celestials were also portrayed on a higher level in that issue than ZH Parallax...who was getting hurt by pillars, rubble, and cars.

- Admit you're not impressed by Thor's history...even though the evidence is abundantly in his favor of being able to manipulate/absorb energy regardless of the source.

- Again, for whatever reason outside of you having an apparent fixation for the guy, bring up Superman and somehow compare him to Mjolnir's absorbing capabilities like they're even on the same page the vast majority of the time.

- Think that ZH Parallax was displaying power in his fight with Hal beyond what the Celestials displayed when they attacked Thor.[/i]

And have the ever pleasant same old Abhitude that constantly gets mods involved because you're being a prick all the while, personally attacking people who disagree with your "interpretation" of events or call you out on them and then haughtily responding with "I'm gonna ignore your bullshit" while spouting some highly implausible scenario of how you see things going because your jimmies are rustled.

It's a sad and pathetic cycle. And it doesn't fool anyone. *cue "stop appealing to the masses"/"general consensus doesn't mean shit because I'm always right" retort*

I'm honestly surprised you've not been banned. Probably because when you're not being a hyper aggressive and defensive zealot, you have the potential to make sense. But once someone says something you don't like, it's basically OWAW Abhi time, complete with hissy fits, personal attacks, lowballing, and trolling.

By all means, though, proceed. Fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly, etc.

👆

Originally posted by curryman
This is one of the more favourable matchups for Thor in the high-herald category. Even so, I don't think it's a landslide or anything, but he is in the majority.

i can get with this. 👆

hal puts up a hellafight and def takes some, but this is sort of in thor's wheelhouse.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Never said that.

The phuck? You just said there's no proof of Parallax holding back.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It isn't. You have zero proof of Parallax holding back just because he was talking to hal. Like I said your word isn't law.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Again with this shit? Quit shoving your opinion as proof already. Your common sense.

So what is it? Was ZH Parallax holding back or wasn't he? Pretty sure him saying "I'm not going to kill you" and clearly fighting down to his younger self's level is the very definition of holding back. Unless you think Hal was a universal force during that very brief struggle. Which is it?

Originally posted by abhilegend
He can certainly send mjolnir to the other side of the universe. He's done that to his power battery countless times.

😐 So you're equating Hal being able to put his power battery in a pocket dimension or summon it across the universe to him being able to easily do the same to Mjolnir without Thor having any say in it? WTF. Never mind the fact that Mjolnir can cleave dimensions to return to Thor nor fly at speeds far faster at light to do so or the fact that Thor can teleport pretty much any and everywhere. This is a horribly thought out strategy when Hal's far better off using beams, blasts, and constructs.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because he's relevant to the discussion.

How the PHUCK is Superman relevant to this convo? Seriously? What does Superman have to do with either Hal Jordan or Thor? Nothing. You're not even bringing in feats of Hal's against Superman which would be somewhat relevant, just going off on a tangent about how Superman's awesome. It's ridiculous, man. 😬

Originally posted by abhilegend
Comparing two energy manipulators isn't outside the realm of possibility. Don't throw a hissy fit at your precious thor being compared to anybody short of galactus.

Dr. Light isn't Thor with Mjolnir. So projecting Light's failings onto Thor gets you nowhere, but at least he's somewhat more relevant to the conversation than phucking Superman. And for that record, wtf does Galactus have to do with this? I swear, I'm tired of your straw man and reverse projecting BS, Abhi. If you can't debate without doing either, kindly cease and desist.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And now you're straight up lowballing as if ZH parallax is confined to his GL 106 showings.

How I am lowballing ZH Parallax by using THE VERY COMIC YOU'VE POSTED AS A FEAT? In that very same comic, Parallax wasn't portrayed as anywhere near close to his peak levels. In that comic, Hal was able to shock Parallax and stagger him more than once. He also briefly matched ZH Parallax's willpower, not his actual power level. Great for Hal. But don't act like ZH Parallax was using universal power and as such, so too was Hal. In the case of the Celestials, in Thor 300, they actually obliterated Odin in the Destroyer Armor and were consistently shown to be beyond Thor, save the very brief moments he was able to topple them and throw the Odinsword through them. And in that same comic, the Celestials displayed durability greater than what Parallax did. Obviously, if we use their entire feats, ZH Parallax is way more impressive, but in that specific fight YOU posted, ZH Parallax wasn't anywhere close to being shown at his higher levels. The distinction isn't hard to make.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Never said that either.

Again with lying? The posts are right there for you, me, and anyone else to see. facepalm

Originally posted by abhilegend
So your favorite "Thor's history proves it" tactic, eh? Not impressed jake. Try again.

That's two so far, hopefully I don't find another by the end of this post.

Originally posted by abhilegend
At their highest, they both absorbed a sun. I know your Thor is a universal entity but don't start whining at anybody having the edge on him.

😐 My God. You really can't do it, can you? You really can't have a debate without somehow, someway, impossibly worming Superman in it (to say nothing of doing so without going off and resorting to lying/flaming/trolling, etc.) It would help to take you more seriously if you didn't spend your every waking moment trying to promote the S Shield and rabidly attacking everyone who doesn't agree with your stances or think as highly of Superman as you. Not sure how Superman's absorption feats, which are way more sporadic and not as consistent as Mjolnir's makes any sense for this conversation. And when did I say Thor's a universal entity? Seriously, knock it off with this shit.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And now posting your own interpretation as proof yet again.

My own interpretation? Wut? ZH Parallax in GL 106 looked inferior to the Celestials of Thor 300. Considering those are the specific issues that you brought up, I don't see why you should get upset when comparisons are ultimately made. The funny thing is that Hal actually has better feats than briefly "stalemating" ZH Parallax as you claim (and as such claim it as shitting on everything Thor's ever done). I'm not even opposed to Hal winning this, but your rather warped and skewed views on the matter leave much to be desired.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I haven't attacked you a single time here. Calling your bullshit, well a bullshit isn't attacking you. Typical Jake, typical. Don't start to ***** now.

You haven't attacked me a single time here? El oh El.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nice of you being a hypocrite like rest of your thorbags kin
Originally posted by abhilegend
you're a hypocrite thorbag.

Funny because not only do you attack me, you decided to bait/troll Thor fans as well. Do you not think that people can read this or something? Dude, you even attack me in the very same post you put up saying you're not attacking me.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Jake's being jake and a thorbag

Now, I'm a big boy and I can more than handle internet trolls, but I find it both amusing and disappointed you can't even begin to hold a debate without this happening. The longer the debate goes and the more desperate you get, the more agitated you get which in turn leads into the classic baiting/trolling/flaming spiel.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ah, the ole' "majority consensus". You are so predictable.

....And on cue, the "majority consensus" retort...just as foreshadowed in the post you quoted, but I'm the predictable one even though your response was EXACTLY WHAT I SAID IT WOULD BE? 😬 Because nobody else's opinion on KMC matters, amirite? People can choose for themselves whose right or wrong. Me inviting them to do so really seems to grind your gears.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You are the one trolling and lowballing here jake. Quit acting like you're a saint or something and not a raging thorbag who throws a hissy fit everytime somebody posts against his precious thor.

How exactly am I trolling or lowballing? I didn't call you a hypocritical raging Kal-Queda member nor did I bash Superman fans. I didn't post a dubiously interpreted feat as evidence as to why Thor "shits all over everything Hal ever did". Nor do I use wildly implausible or high end feats to justify Thor winning against Hal. And I certainly haven't just randomly brought in someone off topic like Dr. Doom and ranted about how awesome he is. But somehow, I'm the troll here. I'm the one resorting to attacks and flaming. lol wat. Never once did I say I was a saint nor that I'm above anyone here or don't make mistakes. Christ.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Jake's being jake and a thorbag. All is well.

....

What are you?

Pass. Wall of text ftw. Lets leave before this gets too far. Ok?

Aww...its over?

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Aww...its over?

Jake won.

Jake said:

Originally posted by quanchi112
Jake won.

According to your terms, Abhi stalemated Jake biscuits

Why does it matter if GL sends Mjolnir to the other side of the universe? Thor can teleport it to his hand if he has to.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Why does it matter if GL sends Mjolnir to the other side of the universe? Thor can teleport it to his hand if he has to.

Feats of thor teleporting mjolnir from other side of the universe?