Re: Which Company has more Unique, Imaginative Characters?
Originally posted by Horrificus
DC or Marvel?To be honest, although I read more Marvel than DC, I have always though that DC had the more original creations, both in Profile and Appearance.
What do you guys think? Give scans if possible.
What are your examples, if you think DC has more imaginative, unique characters.
How was Spider-Man not unique and imaginative when he debuted?
Daredevil? Wolverine?
People have envisioned flying or being strong since antiquity, but who has imagined using echolocation like a bat to get around (Daredevil) or spikes coming from their hands when they get angry (Wolverine), or walking up a smooth wall as if it had rungs like a ladder (Spider-Man)?
Gonna have to disagree with your assessment as a result, P.R.
It ignores completely how revolutionary some of these guys were when 1st introduced decades ago.
Marvel, arguably, had a LOT more such characters than DC.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
How was Spider-Man not unique and imaginative when he debuted?Daredevil? Wolverine?
People have envisioned flying or being strong since antiquity, but who has imagined using echolocation like a bat to get around (Daredevil) or spikes coming from their hands when they get angry (Wolverine), or walking up a smooth wall as if it had rungs like a ladder (Spider-Man)?
Gonna have to disagree with your assessment as a result, P.R.
It ignores completely how revolutionary some of these guys were when [b]1st
introduced decades ago.Marvel, arguably, had a LOT more such characters than DC. [/B]
I completely agree that time period has to be taken into account, but entirely disagree with your Marvel favoritism here.
There's no way to tell. Even Superman was original back when he debuted. Aquaman? Wonder Woman (any Woman at that time was crazy original)? Green Lantern?
Both companies had very original characters when they started. Both have stolen enormously from the other. If you forced me to choose, I'd say DC because they're older and therefore probably had a few more completely original ideas.
Considering the mainstream universes, it's become balanced now that DCU has reincorporated the vertigo characters as IMO they are what DC has of most unique and imaginitive. Without them I'd say Marvel and in my personal opinion DC relies on recycling its own character concepts too much, althguoh Marvel has taken thsi route a lot in recent years.
Sorry I didn't clarify. I'm not really speaking of the characters that have been around since the beginning, because, of course, there were plenty of ideas that had never been tapped.
Rather, without having to get too specific, I am looking at the abilities of these companies to continue generating new, fresh, cool, creative ideas. Which can't be an easy task these days.
So, yeah, I am actually talking about the continuing "character mills".
Once the comic book genre started getting some real attention and receiving a lot of interest, new companies were falling out of the sky. With that, a LOT of previously untapped ideas were put on page.
With this in mind, I would say, going back 10 or 15 years, I would like to see some of your opinions.
Criteria could be:
Appearance/Design-
(Which companies seem to be able to keep pumping out original, imaginitive looking characters?)
Powers/Abilities-
(Who is developing powers and abilities that haven't been seen before?)
Personality Types-
(For instance, Logan was obviously a new personality type when he was created.)
History and Fluff-
(Example, Sentry or Blue Marvel showing up with a ready-made history with fluff that seemed interesting.)
Goals and Motivation-
(Example, Thanos wooing Mistress Death, Galactus devouring planets, etc.)
I'm not sure about these days, but back in the 60's, Marvel was far more innovative, imo. Eg, a bickering superhero family; a Jekyll/Hyde monster as a hero; a "nut on a flying surfboard."
Around that time (and especially prior), it seemed DC couldn't come up with a character that didn't have "-man/-girl/-lad", etc in its name ("Matter Eating Lad"? Really?). Looking back, monikers like "Flash" or "Green Lantern" were ahead of their time.
However, with the retiring of Lee, the death of Kirby, and DC improving character development, and especially with all the rebooting both companies are doing, I'd say these days they're about equal.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Appearance/Design-
(Which companies seem to be able to keep pumping out original, imaginitive looking characters?)
Originally posted by HorrificusIf we include Vertigo and Wildstorm, I'd say DC wins here for recent-ish characters. Jack Hawksmoor talks to and controls cities. Jenny Sparks & Jenny Quantum - spirits of the 20th and 21st centuries, with powers inspired by said centuries. Dream of the Endless...etc.
Powers/Abilities-
(Who is developing powers and abilities that haven't been seen before?)
Originally posted by Horrificus
Personality Types-
(For instance, Logan was obviously a new personality type when he was created.)
Originally posted by Horrificus
History and Fluff-
(Example, Sentry or Blue Marvel showing up with a ready-made history with fluff that seemed interesting.)
Originally posted by Horrificus
Goals and Motivation-
(Example, Thanos wooing Mistress Death, Galactus devouring planets, etc.)
To name a few interesting one's on DC's side.