Originally posted by xJLxKing
Loki literally has no chance. What can he do that Mordru can? Prime tickled at Mordru's attempt to hurt him. I doubt any magic aside from that coming from Odin can actually harm Superboy.With that said, they are going to need to do some crazy physical attacks + some strong energy attacks
Mordru fired a blast at Prime and Prime laughed it off, which is impessive. It doesn't translate into Mordru couldn't waste Prime if he went all out.
And considering the beings that some of Asgard's high end magic and artifacts have effected, I doubt Prime can just no sell it all based off him laughing off Black Adam's amped punches and a blast from Mordru. And from what I gather, Prime's resistance to magic appears to be in the form of conventional physical damage, not illusions or telepathy.
This is the thing that confuses me about Prime. If he's truly, legitimately immune to magic, and some of his feats do suggest that, Asgard is going to be in trouble. Of course he'd still feel when Thor cracked him with lightning and what not, but the ridiculous power that Asgard has via their artifacts would be lost on Prime.
-Physically, none of the Asgardians can contend with Prime.
-As far as magical attacks(ie. blasts) are concerned, we know those will be completely ineffectual, unless said magic user is more powerful than Mordru. In fact, given the vast array of uber energies Prime has tanked in general(anti-matter and quantum energy, namely), it'd probably be best for the Asgardians to stay away from energy attacks all together.
-We know a J'onn-level telepath can read Prime's mind-- we have no idea how powerful of a telepath it'd take to preform actual mind-phuckery on him. However, given that he's battled pretty much every noteworthy hero in DC simultaneously(current-LoSH), I'd think that if mind-phuckery were easily accomplished, the heroes would've done it by now.
One thing is for sure: if the Asgardians are to have any shot at winning, first and foremost they'll have to negate the sunlight. This task certainly isn't beyond them, however-- Bill, for example, can completely eclipse suns via storm manifestation:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15996467/ann-13.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15996468/ann-14.jpg.html
If Asgard blots out the sunlight and proceeds to dogpile Prime, he will eventually tire out *see Sinestro Corps War for proof*-- enough of the Asgardians just have to stay alive long enough to continuously beat-down/weaken him. However, if Prime is able to so much as touch sunlight during the fight(ie. fly above the cloud-cover), it's all over for Asgard *see Sinestro Corps War for proof*.
Purely my opinion, of course.
Originally posted by Galan007
-Physically, none of the Asgardians can contend with Prime.
-As far as magical attacks(ie. blasts) are concerned, we know those will be completely ineffectual, unless said magic user is more powerful than Mordru. In fact, given the vast array of uber energies Prime has tanked in general(anti-matter and quantum energy, namely), it'd probably be best for the Asgardians to stay away from energy attacks all together.
-We know a J'onn-level telepath can read Prime's mind-- we have no idea how powerful of a telepath it'd take to preform actual mind-phuckery on him. However, given that he's battled pretty much every noteworthy hero in DC simultaneously(current-LoSH), I'd think that if mind-phuckery were easily accomplished, the heroes would've done it by now.One thing is for sure: if the Asgardians are to have any shot at winning, first and foremost they'll have to negate the sunlight. This task certainly isn't beyond them, however-- Bill, for example, can completely eclipse suns via storm manifestation:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15996467/ann-13.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15996468/ann-14.jpg.htmlIf Asgard blots out the sunlight and proceeds to dogpile Prime, he will eventually tire out *see Sinestro Corps War for proof*-- enough of the Asgardians just have to stay alive long enough to continuously beat-down/weaken him. However, if Prime is able to so much as touch sunlight during the fight(ie. fly above the cloud-cover), it's all over for Asgard *see Sinestro Corps War for proof*.
Purely my opinion, of course.
Finally we agree at something 😄
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Originally posted by Galan007
-Physically, none of the Asgardians can contend with Prime.
-As far as magical attacks(ie. blasts) are concerned, we know those will be completely ineffectual, unless said magic user is more powerful than Mordru. In fact, given the vast array of uber energies Prime has tanked in general(anti-matter and quantum energy, namely), it'd probably be best for the Asgardians to stay away from energy attacks all together.
-We know a J'onn-level telepath can read Prime's mind-- we have no idea how powerful of a telepath it'd take to preform actual mind-phuckery on him. However, given that he's battled pretty much every noteworthy hero in DC simultaneously(current-LoSH), I'd think that if mind-phuckery were easily accomplished, the heroes would've done it by now.One thing is for sure: if the Asgardians are to have any shot at winning, first and foremost they'll have to negate the sunlight. This task certainly isn't beyond them, however-- Bill, for example, can completely eclipse suns via storm manifestation:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15996467/ann-13.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15996468/ann-14.jpg.htmlIf Asgard blots out the sunlight and proceeds to dogpile Prime, he will eventually tire out *see Sinestro Corps War for proof*-- enough of the Asgardians just have to stay alive long enough to continuously beat-down/weaken him. However, if Prime is able to so much as touch sunlight during the fight(ie. fly above the cloud-cover), it's all over for Asgard *see Sinestro Corps War for proof*.
Purely my opinion, of course.
sheesh well said
Originally posted by Galan007
-Physically, none of the Asgardians can contend with Prime.
-As far as magical attacks(ie. blasts) are concerned, we know those will be completely ineffectual, unless said magic user is more powerful than Mordru.
I think he has very high level invulnerablity but I wouldn't say he is immune to say transmutation, illusions, ect...
Just my 2 cents though
Originally posted by pym-ftwUsing the word 'immune' is to apply a no limits fallacy-- 'highly resistant' is my verbiage of choice. 🙂
Do you think that was Mordru could produce...I think he has very high level invulnerablity but I wouldn't say he is immune to say transmutation, illusions, ect...
Just my 2 cents though
Anyway, my point above still applies: if transmutation, illusions, mind-rape, etc. were easily accomplished against Prime, then surely the heroes would have attempted such.