Originally posted by Galan007
-Physically, none of the Asgardians can contend with Prime.
-As far as magical attacks(ie. blasts) are concerned, we know those will be completely ineffectual, unless said magic user is more powerful than Mordru. In fact, given the vast array of uber energies Prime has tanked in general(anti-matter and quantum energy, namely), it'd probably be best for the Asgardians to stay away from energy attacks all together.
-We know a J'onn-level telepath can read Prime's mind-- we have no idea how powerful of a telepath it'd take to preform actual mind-phuckery on him. However, given that he's battled pretty much every noteworthy hero in DC simultaneously(current-LoSH), I'd think that if mind-phuckery were easily accomplished, the heroes would've done it by now.One thing is for sure: if the Asgardians are to have any shot at winning, first and foremost they'll have to negate the sunlight. This task certainly isn't beyond them, however-- Bill, for example, can completely eclipse suns via storm manifestation:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15996467/ann-13.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15996468/ann-14.jpg.htmlIf Asgard blots out the sunlight and proceeds to dogpile Prime, he will eventually tire out *see Sinestro Corps War for proof*-- enough of the Asgardians just have to stay alive long enough to continuously beat-down/weaken him. However, if Prime is able to so much as touch sunlight during the fight(ie. fly above the cloud-cover), it's all over for Asgard *see Sinestro Corps War for proof*.
Purely my opinion, of course.
👆 I was about to respond but this pretty much summed it up. Good synopsis.
Originally posted by Damborgson
This is the thing that confuses me about Prime. If he's truly, legitimately immune to magic, and some of his feats do suggest that, Asgard is going to be in trouble. Of course he'd still feel when Thor cracked him with lightning and what not, but the ridiculous power that Asgard has via their artifacts would be lost on Prime.
👆 Although I believe the blunt force from Mjolnir would be more effective than the lightning. Prime tanked a triple team Guardian blast. That lightning would have to be at or nearing godblast level.
Originally posted by Diesldude
It's not like they dc didn't try weakness exploitation using magic.
Black Adam, modru and another tried to transmute him but couldn't and iirc her team are stated that magic doesn't work on prime. So I don't think asgards magic will do anything. SbP ends the fight in seconds.
Seconds? Really?
He couldn't beat Conner in seconds. How does he solo Asgard, minus Odin and the Destroyer (both of whom would end him) in seconds? Given Thor's feats, while he would lose, he would put up a great fight against Prime before falling. And Prime laughing off Black Adam's fists and a casual blast from Mordru and offensive transmutation doesn't mean he's going to no sell everything Asgard can throw at him as I'd put all of Asgard well above Black Adam and Mordru.
By all rights, given he's displayed no real resistance to it at all and has displayed an incredibly fragile and damaged psyche, there's nothing to suggest Loki alone couldn't play havoc with Prime's mind with telepathy and illusions.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankI know. Seconds. Didn't beat Superboy or the Teen Titans and he thinks Asgard which is far mightier does down faster than Superboy.
Seconds? Really?He couldn't beat Conner in seconds. How does he solo Asgard, minus Odin and the Destroyer (both of whom would end him) in seconds? Given Thor's feats, while he would lose, he would put up a great fight against Prime before falling. And Prime laughing off Black Adam's fists and a casual blast from Mordru and offensive transmutation doesn't mean he's going to no sell everything Asgard can throw at him as I'd put all of Asgard well above Black Adam and Mordru.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I know. Seconds. Didn't beat Superboy or the Teen Titans and he thinks Asgard which is far mightier does down faster than Superboy.
Even if you write off Conner being able to hurt Prime every single time they've fought - and Prime is going to be hurt here, let's face it - as PIS, Prime while stronger and overall more powerful than the majority of people he faced, wasn't one shotting high heralds nor was he no selling them outright.
I have no earthly idea how he could beat Asgard with Thor and the All-Mothers and everyone else, let alone if Frigga summons the other Eight Realms, which she's said on panel is within her power and duty as ruler of Asgard(ia).
Gaea, loki, enchantress, bill, thor, hela(if she's avalible) heimdall(if he's amped by the odinforce) all take prime out so easy its not even funny, frigga could put a beating on him, simply because she's banging odin, damn I'm kidding really lol
Gaea makes prime her little ***** tea boy by herself
Loki phucks his mind up with illusions an TP
Heimdall bested thor twice without the odin force, with it, he's one of the most powerful asgardians, that's why he guards the bifrost obviously.
I shouldn't have to even explain the others
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Seconds? Really?He couldn't beat Conner in seconds. How does he solo Asgard, minus Odin and the Destroyer (both of whom would end him) in seconds? Given Thor's feats, while he would lose, he would put up a great fight against Prime before falling. And Prime laughing off Black Adam's fists and a casual blast from Mordru and offensive transmutation doesn't mean he's going to no sell everything Asgard can throw at him as I'd put all of Asgard well above Black Adam and Mordru.
By all rights, given he's displayed no real resistance to it at all and has displayed an incredibly fragile and damaged psyche, there's nothing to suggest Loki alone couldn't play havoc with Prime's mind with telepathy and illusions.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankmordru outright accepted prime as his superior when prime marked his ring. This is ridiculously far out of Mordru's MO to accept something like that. If he thought it was possible there is not a chance in hell he would take that lying down unless he had an endgame that he was dead set on getting to and in this case there really was no endgame benefit to him at all.
Mordru fired a blast at Prime and Prime laughed it off, which is impessive. It doesn't translate into Mordru couldn't waste Prime if he went all out.And considering the beings that some of Asgard's high end magic and artifacts have effected, I doubt Prime can just no sell it all based off him laughing off Black Adam's amped punches and a blast from Mordru. And from what I gather, Prime's resistance to magic appears to be in the form of conventional physical damage, not illusions or telepathy.
