DCnU Superman vs Gladiator

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator flies 100 millionth miles through a gas giant.

http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/1434/gladiatornuclearinferno2uc.jpg

Human torch Nova blast has been described as being hotter than the sun, Gladiator tanks it.

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/5296/gladiatorvsfantasticfour080sh.jpg

Gladiator flex and breaks Quasar bonds.

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/676/gladq3kd8qp.png

This version of Superman has only shown mountain level punches (as stated on panel)...Gladiator crush planets with his fist.

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8620/gladiatorvsplanet10tq.jpg

Enough strength to lay low a city.

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/4397/gladpower26gw.jpg

This doesn't include him combating at nano second speeds or tanking a blast with enough power to devistate a solar system.

LOL! I feel ashamed right now. I never really read that scan carefully of Gladiator busting the planet. The narration called it a lifeless ROCK that has WEATHERED the death of GALAXIES. So that means it was very small, with no atmosphere, and was probably more fragile than normal due to all the abuse it received from dying galaxies.

But it's still an impressive feat by far. Just not on the level I once thought it was.

Breaking the bonds is impressive too.

Resistance against heat is irrelevant in this fight.

Superman bench pressed the Earth. It takes more force to lift a planet against Earth like gravity than it takes to destroy it. That feat proved that Superman has the necessary strength to destroy Earth.

As far as this fight I can't say as I don't know much about DcNU Superman except the benchpressing feat. So Gladiator could possibly win here. Not sure yet.

Gladiator wins simply because he has more history and a plethora of feats to draw upon.

52 Superman has the feats to make it a fight though.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Bada should ban you now for not kneeling uhuh

Ergo, that makes me immune to Bada's banment powers. 👆

Originally posted by h1a8
LOL! I feel ashamed right now. I never really read that scan carefully of Gladiator busting the planet. The narration called it a lifeless ROCK that has WEATHERED the death of GALAXIES. So that means it was very small, with no atmosphere, and was probably more fragile than normal due to all the abuse it received from dying galaxies.

But it's still an impressive feat by far. Just not on the level I once thought it was.

Breaking the bonds is impressive too.

Resistance against heat is irrelevant in this fight.

Superman bench pressed the Earth. It takes more force to lift a planet against Earth like gravity than it takes to destroy it. That feat proved that Superman has the necessary strength to destroy Earth.

As far as this fight I can't say as I don't know much about DcNU Superman except the benchpressing feat. So Gladiator could possibly win here. Not sure yet.

Lowballing is lowballing.

Originally posted by JBL
The narrator made it plain as day that the planet gladiator destroyed was large. When he said the term "rock" he was telling the readers that it was very durable, backed by the way it survived while others were destroyed. Now this is lowballing but its in supermans defense, soooooo.......

I swear I never saw "Lifeless Rock" before. This is my first time. The planet had no atmosphere (I didn't notice that either). That means its gravity was too small to sustain one. Low gravity = low mass.

Any heavenly body object is large. Who are you trying to fool? Hell if Glads destroyed the moon then that's still higher than any average high herald strength feat.

Other's were not destroyed as you see other planets in the same scan.

Regardless of the fact, weathering abuse makes you less durable (not more).

Can you give this guy a warning though?

lol

😆

This is why no one takes h1 seriously.

I'm surprised he doesn't get a warning, tho.

I'm generally curious, why? How is he lowballing the feat? Admittedly, the less durable is sorta BS, but he is right about it potentially being a small planet. I certainly don't get the notion that it was large (for a planet) or even Earth sized.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Can you give this guy a warning though?

For what?
Point out what I said was incorrect.

IMO you should get a warning for backseat modding.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
😆

This is why no one takes h1 seriously.

I'm surprised he doesn't get a warning, tho.

Guys, who gets warned (like, real warnings) is up to the mods and the mods alone. discussing it is a form of backseat modding and isn't allowed.

Just to be clear, I never agreed that H1A8 was lowballing (this time); I just stated that lowballing is lowballing regardless of character.

Originally posted by ares834
I'm generally curious, why? How is he lowballing the feat? Admittedly, the less durable is sorta BS, but he is right about it potentially being a small planet. I certainly don't get the notion that it was large (for a planet) or even Earth sized.

I agree less durable is somewhat BS but I'm thinking in terms of real science and not comic logic.

In comics, a character or object can have the same power level despite having used a lot or have taken much abuse.

They are like cartoons in a way. In one scene Tom (in Tom and Jerry) gets blasted by dynamite and in the next scene he is as good as new.

Originally posted by ares834
I'm generally curious, why? How is he lowballing the feat? Admittedly, the less durable is sorta BS, but he is right about it potentially being a small planet. I certainly don't get the notion that it was large or even Earth sized.

Every planet in comics can be "potentially be a small planet" as much as it can "potentially be a huge planet". There is no definitive proof of either.

It IS however, somewhat an accepted consensus that planets SHOULD be larger than moons and from the looks of the art, it even looks like the damned planet was large enough to have several moons orbiting it.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Can you give this guy a warning though?

😂 😂

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Gladiator wins simply because he has more history and a plethora of feats to draw upon.

52 Superman has the feats to make it a fight though.

True.

Superman started off strong, crushing Hal and tagging Flash. Clearly a rookie Hal, though.

I finally broke down and decided to catch up with DC, and I'm still not getting how all this fits together, considering Hal in Green Lantern is "current", experienced Hal, yet you see what looks like the same team from the JLA comics meeting Hal and Sinestro's replacement..

The scan also outright states that the planet supported life as well.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Every planet in comics can be "potentially be a small planet" as much as it can "potentially be a huge planet". There is no definitive proof of either.

It IS however, somewhat an accepted consensus that planets SHOULD be larger than moons and from the looks of the art, it even looks like the damned planet was large enough to have several moons orbiting it.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Every planet in comics can be "potentially be a small planet" as much as it can "potentially be a huge planet". There is no definitive proof of either.

It IS however, somewhat an accepted consensus that planets SHOULD be larger than moons and from the looks of the art, it even looks like the damned planet was large enough to have several moons orbiting it.

It is a known scientific fact that very small planets cannot sustain an atmosphere.
The planet had no atmosphere. So it we should assume it had the largest mass possible that cannot support an atmosphere.