Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Hyperion's only feats include one shotting Terminus, effortlessly ripping off HE's arm, stalemating Hulk in pretty much a shot for shot affair, helping beat up Starbrand, almost putting down Ex Nihilo with two HV blasts, and holding back two universes and surviving both of them exploding...That's a pretty sick average for Superman to be better than
Those are his highest feats right? Why do you say average?
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Hyperion's only feats include one shotting Terminus, effortlessly ripping off HE's arm, stalemating Hulk in pretty much a shot for shot affair, helping beat up Starbrand, almost putting down Ex Nihilo with two HV blasts, and holding back two universes and surviving both of them exploding...That's a pretty sick average for Superman to be better than
He one shot sucker attacked a fake Terminus and only because Thor had his attention.
How powerful is Hickman's HE? Does he have any feats?
I'll give you Hulk.
Thor did better vs Hickman's Starbrand than Hyperion did. Thor withstood Starbrand's attacks without missing a beat yet Hyperion cried out in pain.
How powerful is Ex Nihilo? What's she done?
The two universe feat is still missing context. Supposedly Hickman will explain how he did that (if you believe his Formspring posts).
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Because Spider-Man has never given Hulk problems, am I right?Hulk is more of a liability than everyone else. He can get BFRed from the get go by everyone on team 2 IMHO. Superman can fight Hulk on Hulk's terms if he wants, but the thing is he does not have to.
But alas like I said before JL's chances are better if they fight smart. So Hal makes a giant catapult and throws Hulk into space.
I guess Hulk will be standing there while they are doing this. None of what you said minus bfring is stopping Hulk, if anything, it will make him angry.
When was the last time Spiderman gave Hulk fits speed wise? Hulk has the ability to beat anyone here. By the way, Hal constructs would get wrecked by Hulk.
Originally posted by carver9Never said Hulk would just be standing there. Superman can stop Hulk on his own. I know you will never agree to this, so I'll stop arguing the case. Don't feel like wasting time going on and on. Its part of the reason I rarely ever debate. My attention span is almost non-existant(F U WeeD)
I guess Hulk will be standing there while they are doing this. None of what you said minus bfring is stopping Hulk, if anything, it will make him angry.When was the last time Spiderman gave Hulk fits speed wise? Hulk has the ability to beat anyone here. By the way, Hal constructs would get wrecked by Hulk.
SpiderMan is just an example. Many people with speed inferior to Superman and MM's have given Hulk issues. I merely mentioned it to contend your "Speed is not an issue"
Never did I say Hulk wouldn't break Hal's constructs. He will do it quite easily, but the chances of Hulk reacting and smashing a catapult before it shoots him into space are not very high IMO. BTW catapult was just an example of what Hal could come up with.
Originally posted by leonidas
i'd take the jla. mm has some sick tp feats for the avengers to go against without at least someone to try and defend them...
Jonn shuts down Thor's brain the second the fight starts awesome???
Originally posted by zopzopI was just naming all his feats.
Context Bran, context.He one shot sucker attacked a fake Terminus and only because Thor had his attention.
You think Terminus' metal armor durability gets harder the more attention he pays? I get it if he just knocked him out, but he tore through his armor/head effortlessly.
Originally posted by zopzopReally stupid question
How powerful is Hickman's HE? Does he have any feats?
Originally posted by zopzopAnd in the second fight, he accomplished nothing vs Hyperion. Hyperion crying out in pain while Thor gets visibly damaged isn't exactly a low feat either.
I'll give you Hulk.Thor did better vs Hickman's Starbrand than Hyperion did. Thor withstood Starbrand's attacks without missing a beat yet Hyperion cried out in pain.
Originally posted by zopzopHe tanked Thor's lightning bolt afterwards. With Ex, I have a feeling it's a wait and see. Especially considering Infinity has a lot to do with his race of Builders. Then again, Thanos might wipe his entire race out, and that'd be fantastic too.
How powerful is Ex Nihilo? What's she done?The two universe feat is still missing context. Supposedly Hickman will explain how he did that (if you believe his Formspring posts).
And if Hickman never explains it?
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
those are his only feats
I'll take your word on that. But I meant showings. Surely there are showings that contradict those feats right? I mean isn't that what you do all the time? Find contradictory feats to show a character not being that powerful and thus trying to bring their average down?
New Hyperion hasn't been around much and he only appears in one book iirc, so good luck with that.
Originally posted by LeonBuco666
Can't cureent hulk go WB at will now? If so team 1 easily, if not then I see hyperion an supes battling it out to either a stalemate or hyperion taking it 6/10, hal taking on hulk, hulk is far to strong for hal to cope with, an thor probably losing to MM in the end, so I say team 1 7/10
CIS prevents Hulk from reaching WB levels, so no. Although it really isn't stupid to want to keep everyone safe and alive.
Originally posted by h1a8That's actually what you do. I mean, you're literally asking for low feats, and that isn't the best way to paint someone else's habits.
I'll take your word on that. But I meant showings. Surely there are showings that contradict those feats right? I mean isn't that what you do all the time? Find contradictory feats to show a character not being that powerful and thus trying to bring their average down?
His only appearances are out of a so far 13 issue series. You tell me if he has low showings.