Avengers Big 3 Vs JL Big 3

Started by h1a85 pages

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Well it's a good thing Hyperion neither has low feat showings, nor low showing "non feat" statements. Besides the one Carver mentioned... which wasn't a low feat/non feat showing in the slightest.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about though. You're just looking for any sort of lowballing you can find, either power showing, or statement apparently... since you've been so keen on them in the past...

I swear I'm not looking for to low ball anyone here. You dogged me and others for using high showings by countering them with low ones to imply an average.
So I was thinking you are being hypocritical here. If you are not then I apologize and agree with you wholeheartedly.

I want to use high showings to support a characters power level. But for obvious reasons I'm not quite allowed to. I view lowballing is when someone counters someone naming feats by mentioning low shit that happen. Like what Quanchi does all the time with D.C. characters. That's just me.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'll take your word on that. But I meant showings. Surely there are showings that contradict those feats right?
Originally posted by h1a8
I don't want you to name his low showings (stop saying feats). Just acknowledge that he has some.

This is you not trying to lowball... by asking for low feats showings.

take away bfr and it would be more fair a fight...but as is JL win

Originally posted by h1a8
Read all the posts and don't be lazy.

Bran is notorious for countering members who use high showings by mentioning low showings to insinuate an average.

Yet he named all of Hyperion's high showings (his feats) and implied they can be averaged to give Hyperion's average power level.

He basically said he named all of Hyperion's feats when, according to his rules, feats aren't the only things used to average a character.

I have nothing against naming feats or high showings. I have something against using them to establish an average power level when that person is against that notion in other threads.


I've read it, and what you are doing looks silly and nonsensical.

If Bran told you every relevant thing Hyperion's done, what else do you want? You keep bringing up "showings" as if there's some meaningful distinction between that and "feats".

It sounds like you're arguing for the sake of arguing. Bran is saying that there aren't low showings to show, not that high end trumps the average.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
This is you not trying to lowball... by asking for low feats showings.
I wasn't try to lowball but call you out on being a hypocrite. You named high showings and imply that we can average those to obtain his average.

How is that if he has low showings?

If he doesn't then you are correct. If he does then you are a hypocrite for saying the word "average".

Originally posted by StyleTime
I've read it, and what you are doing looks silly and nonsensical.

If Bran told you every relevant thing Hyperion's done, what else do you want? You keep bringing up "showings" as if there's some meaningful distinction between that and "feats".

It sounds like you're arguing for the sake of arguing. Bran is saying that there aren't low showings to show, not that high end trumps the average.

Jezus man! Why don't anyone actually read my posts. I'll repeat.

" Bran is notorious for countering members who use high showings by mentioning low showings to insinuate an average.

Yet he named all of Hyperion's high showings (his feats) and implied they can be averaged to give Hyperion's average power level. (I agree with this)

He basically said he named all of Hyperion's feats when, according to his rules, feats aren't the only things used to average a character.

I have nothing against naming feats or high showings. I have something against someone who doesn't follow their own rules.

Do you understand?
In a nutshell I called Bran out for using the word average when using only feats when in the past he called me and others out by doing the same thing.

Originally posted by h1a8
Read all the posts and don't be lazy.

Bran is notorious for countering members who use high showings by mentioning low showings to insinuate an average.

Yet he named all of Hyperion's high showings (his feats) and implied they can be averaged to give Hyperion's average power level.

He basically said he named all of Hyperion's feats when, according to his rules, feats aren't the only things used to average a character.

I have nothing against naming feats or high showings. I have something against using them to establish an average power level when that person is against that notion in other threads.

Are you drunk or something. The fts Bran named is the ONLY fts Hyperion have. Do you not understand this? If You can't find a low showing or average showing out of what Bran said, then he doesnt have a low or average showing. Do I need to type this out in another language for you to get it.?

The feats/showings/whatever Bran posted are ALL of Hyperion's feats/showings/whatever. The current Hyperion has only appeared in a handful of issues from Hickman's Avengers run thus far. His "average" is somewhere between getting hurt by Starbrand and crying out in pain (which isn't a low showing) and holding back universes and surviving their destruction. He's portrayed as nothing less than a peer to Thor and Hulk.

This isn't hard.

Originally posted by cdtm

Yeah, mind screw ftw.

Too bad mind attacks are about the only power he really uses, and otherwise comes across as a poor man's Superman. I mean, with TP he should be able to copy Mr. X's trick, and do one better by letting them phase through him instead of dodge.

And he almost never uses invisibility unless he's scouting. I think The Weird is the only one he's ever KOed while maintaining invisibility.


Yep, tp is the big xfactor here.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The feats/showings/whatever Bran posted are ALL of Hyperion's feats/showings/whatever. The current Hyperion has only appeared in a handful of issues from Hickman's Avengers run thus far. His "average" is somewhere between getting hurt by Starbrand and crying out in pain (which isn't a low showing) and holding back universes and surviving their destruction. He's portrayed as nothing less than a peer to Thor and Hulk.

This isn't hard.

I said three times already in my previous posts.

If Hyperion has no low showings then Bran is correct. But if he does then Bran is a hypocrite.

Understand Jake?
This isn't hard. lol

The debate should be over really as I told Bran I'll take his word as the truth since I believe him.

Originally posted by h1a8
I said three times already in my previous posts.

If Hyperion has no low showings then Bran is correct. But if he does then Bran is a hypocrite.

Understand Jake?
This isn't hard. lol

The debate should be over really as I told Bran I'll take his word as the truth since I believe him.

He has no "low" showings outside of being hurt by a being well beyond herald tier. And no, Bran's not being a hypocrite here.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He has no "low" showings outside of being hurt by a being well beyond herald tier.

😆

he did have trouble with the hulk.

more-so, hickman pretty much made it clear several times on formspring that there is no context behind the hyperion feat.

horribly inconsistent

Originally posted by h1a8
I said three times already in my previous posts.

If Hyperion has no low showings then Bran is correct. But if he does then Bran is a hypocrite.

Understand Jake?
This isn't hard. lol

The debate should be over really as I told Bran I'll take his word as the truth since I believe him.

it can't end here

Originally posted by h1a8
Proof is not always an option in comics.

you must get to the bottom of this, h1

Originally posted by zopzop
😆

I get you hate the Starbrand as it's portrayed now and Hickman as a writer, but it was made painfully clear that a holding back and virtually inept user of the Starbrand was shrugging off attacks from Thor, Hulk, and others.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He has no "low" showings outside of being hurt by a being well beyond herald tier. And no, Bran's not being a hypocrite here.

Ok. I believe you.

I would have believed him to if he was civil enough to just say that. I posted three times that I would apologize to him and believe him if he told me what you said.

Sorry Bran. Next just answer my question. I will believe you. I have no reason not to. I just hate it when I'm trying to name shit for a character and you have to bring them down by naming low shit. LOL

Originally posted by h1a8
I posted three times that I would apologize to him
Originally posted by h1a8
Sorry Bran.

im going to go ahead and post scans.

avengers #3: hulk does actually give hyperion trouble

http://i.imgur.com/SsQxGHD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/a2IHLp5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/T60Wg4c.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/U0IXFDs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/D1gZR9W.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MHpXKgC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Crar97y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zHMyPdT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BsDg1Y2.jpg

if you look closely you'll notice in the first scan he even draws blood. So there you go, hyperion can survive the collision of 2 universes yet hulk's punches harm him.

If being hurt by the Hulk is his lowest feat ever, that's really good.

Hulk cheapshots Hyperion and draws blood. What a pussy.

Anyway, when have I lowballed h1 when I was being serious... actually scratch that, when have I lowballed? And asking for low feats makes you look borderline retarded either way.

Plus, even if I am a "notorious lowballer", how is asking for low feats accomplishing anything? All you're doing is admitting to using low feats to farther your argument.

There's also the part where all you do is try and lowball, so I don't get your point.