he said that over the millennium his power was warned, which is correct, since at the beginning he wasn't at full power. Also let's look at it from your perspective, you're saying that darkseid in the end was weaker right? this may actually make sense since throughout the whole story he did feats like mind controlling 3 billion daxamites, that would take power don't you think?
regarding your other points, im going to reply later, since i dont have the time to make a thorough argument
than you for your patience, i had the time to check my comics.
ok, so first of all, did you willingly post the bio knowing that the time trapper bio is POST CRISIS not pre crisis?
it's from Who's Who in the Legion of Super-Heroes Vol 1 #7. here's the 3 consicutive scans if you dont believe me
http://i.imgur.com/B5VAKJ2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/neHVpcN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/P73Yzx0.jpg
furthermore, another post crisis time trapper bio states that he is equal to darkseid, Who's Who: The Definitive Directory of the DC Universe Vol 1 #23:
http://i.imgur.com/fngSFf4.jpg
now SETTING ASIDE THAT THE BIOS ARE POST CRISIS the bio is horribly false seeing how the time trapper is superior to post crisis darkseid by a good margin
so again i ask you or anyone else for that matter what does pre crisis darkseid offer that puts him on skyfather level?
make no mistake though, if evidence is provided i'll gladly accept it, i have no problem at all accepting the evidence, i just don't see it.
Originally posted by operator616Owned.
it did, in fact it was made clear in the beginning of the story arc, but it was back to normal when he absorbed the orb, as evident here:http://i.imgur.com/xKwuJMk.jpg
"i am fulfilled"
and after this point, he additionally absorbed the powers of mordru and time trapper, that's a huge amp don't you think.
And you completely ignored my point of him being a multiversal threat (which according to you, in a weakened state), despite that it completely contradicts everything darkseid actually is.
Originally posted by operator616
than you for your patience, i had the time to check my comics.ok, so first of all, did you willingly post the bio knowing that the time trapper bio is POST CRISIS not pre crisis?
it's from Who's Who in the Legion of Super-Heroes Vol 1 #7. here's the 3 consicutive scans if you dont believe me
http://i.imgur.com/B5VAKJ2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/neHVpcN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/P73Yzx0.jpgfurthermore, another post crisis time trapper bio states that he is equal to darkseid, Who's Who: The Definitive Directory of the DC Universe Vol 1 #23:
http://i.imgur.com/fngSFf4.jpg
now SETTING ASIDE THAT THE BIOS ARE POST CRISIS the bio is horribly false seeing how the time trapper is superior to post crisis darkseid by a good margin
so again i ask you or anyone else for that matter what does pre crisis darkseid offer that puts him on skyfather level?
make no mistake though, if evidence is provided i'll gladly accept it, i have no problem at all accepting the evidence, i just don't see it.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11227127/m3.jpg.html
Right?
Originally posted by abhilegendStill an alternate reality and in the future ie hasn't happened yet. Lol.
You know that the Legion wasn't rebooted with COIE and GDS still happened in this continuity?http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11227127/m3.jpg.html
Right?
Originally posted by abhilegend
You know that the Legion wasn't rebooted with COIE and GDS still happened in this continuity?http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11227127/m3.jpg.html
Right?
time trapper wasn't affected by the crisis.
as for darkseid he did, sure there are a few references but im not going to take a few statements over darkseid's consistent chronology.
so what this bio shows is that time trapper (be it post crisis or pre crisis) is equal to post crisis darkseid, in which case it's WRONG since post crisis darkseid (at least avatar form) isn't anywhere close to time trapper's level.
that's of course setting aside that you're going by 1 statement in a bio to gauge darkseid's power level.
Originally posted by operator616
time trapper wasn't affected by the crisis.as for darkseid he did, sure there are a few references but im not going to take a few statements over darkseid's consistent chronology.
so what this bio shows is that time trapper (be it post crisis or pre crisis) is equal to post crisis darkseid, in which case it's WRONG since post crisis darkseid (at least avatar form) isn't anywhere close to time trapper's level.
that's of course setting aside that you're going by 1 statement in a bio to gauge darkseid's power level.
There are several of those mentions of GDS in post crisis continuity like in LOSH annual 2 and most importantly in LO3W. There are too many of these instances to ignore. You can ignore them though. GDS Darkseid is a weakened pre-crisis darkseid.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Neither was Darkseid.There are several of those mentions of GDS in post crisis continuity like in LOSH annual 2 and most importantly in LO3W. There are too many of these instances to ignore. You can ignore them though. GDS Darkseid is a weakened pre-crisis darkseid.
he was affected, otherwise why are you even arguing that Pre crisis darkseid is skyfather level? unless you believe post crisis is also skyfather level?
you completely IGNORED the 4 amps i posted, so im done arguing here.
but just to point out your flawed logic here........
so going by YOUR LOGIC a weakened GDS darkseid (who according to you is the same as post crisis) was able to mind control 3 billion PC superman level beings, so lets apply that shall we?
http://i.imgur.com/Rj6Hh3x.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/THFUtOO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MzlXPAx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mbvmXbo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/06TvkEe.jpg
yet your same darkseid was taken down by a batkick and 3 post crisis superman punches, seems legit don't you think?
that's setting aside that you ignored all the amps that i posted and still argue that this was a weakened darkseid despite that even normal PC darkseid doesn't have any feats close to that. i mean what are the odds in your favor here?
Done arguing.
Originally posted by operator616Circular reasoning FTW. Darkseid shielded himself and fourth world from COIE just like Time-trapper did to himself and the pocket dimension earth.
he was affected, otherwise why are you even arguing that Pre crisis darkseid is skyfather level? unless you believe post crisis is also skyfather level?
you completely IGNORED the 4 amps i posted, so im done arguing here.I countered them by posting the scan where he himself stated that he was still weakened after all that power absorption.
but just to point out your flawed logic here........Low showings happen to occur to everyone. Odin was once knocked out by earthquake and Loki in Odin's body was knocked out by masterson thor. So he is a different character now?so going by YOUR LOGIC a weakened GDS darkseid (who according to you is the same as post crisis) was able to mind control 3 billion PC superman level beings, so lets apply that shall we?
http://i.imgur.com/Rj6Hh3x.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/THFUtOO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MzlXPAx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mbvmXbo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/06TvkEe.jpgyet your same darkseid was taken down by a batkick and 3 post crisis superman punches, seems legit don't you think?
that's setting aside that you ignored all the amps that i posted and still argue that this was a weakened darkseid despite that even normal PC darkseid doesn't have any feats close to that. i mean what are the odds in your favor here?PC Darkseid doesn't have much appearance aside of GDS, so obviously he doesn't have showings at that level.
Done arguing.Good for you.
he hid it not shield it.
you countered it by posting an irrelevant scan which supports the story perfectly, it says that darkseid's power warned over the Millennium, which is true since at the beginning he was weakened i acknowledged that, but then he was restored back to power after the 2 artifacts and then got 2 additional amps. WHAT'S SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND? STOP DISREGARDING THE EVIDENCE, JUST STOP. If you're going to post another reply ignoring this then please don't respond
excpet that it wasn't a low showing, it happened because darkseid was weak, care to show me a WEAKENED DARKSEID doing feats like controlling 3 billion daxamites? if you don't then don't respond
he had appearances, particularly in the 1st 2 volumes of the new gods, trying reading them and see how does he compare to your 'weakened' GDS dakrseid.
