Shadow Cat vs Superman

It's not the phasing that people have the issue with (or at least, they shouldn't). it's the manner in which it's used, and who's using it.

Though I guess some might be overstating it's effectiveness.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It's not the phasing that people have the issue with (or at least, they shouldn't). it's the manner in which it's used, and who's using it.

Though I guess some might be overstating it's effectiveness.

Some people have issue with the idea of phasing being effective under any circumstances; re-read the thread if you don't believe me.

At any rate, I'll post the URL version of my list here for archive purposes, along with the excerpt I posted for Carver in the "Ownage" thread tonight.

Thank you for your time.

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Interesting to note: Superman, having lesser healing ability than Kara (noted in Supergirl Volume 5 #13 if memory serves),
Hulk under Greg Pak (World War Hulk versus X-Men?),
or Thor via Mjolnir magic (Thor v1 #427-428)

can be effectively knocked out by this style of attack.

Superman (Gakidou)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14337214
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14337217

Supergirl (Gakidou)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13892194

Thor (Shadowcat)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14337201

World War Hulk (Shadowcat)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14334940

Superman (Fernus)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14334622

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14334919

her powers can be used to cripple and probably kill superman. all other things considered she'd never get a majority or 1/10, really. If she plays deffensively, the most likely outcome here is a stalemate.

Shadowcat drags him into Limbo. Easily.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Some people have issue with the idea of phasing being effective under any circumstances; re-read the thread if you don't believe me.

At any rate, I'll post the URL version of my list here for archive purposes, along with the excerpt I posted for Carver in the "Ownage" thread tonight.

Thank you for your time.

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Interesting to note: Superman, having lesser healing ability than Kara (noted in Supergirl Volume 5 #13 if memory serves),
Hulk under Greg Pak (World War Hulk versus X-Men?),
or Thor via Mjolnir magic (Thor v1 #427-428)

can be effectively knocked [b]out by this style of attack.

Superman (Gakidou)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14337214
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14337217

Supergirl (Gakidou)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13892194

Thor (Shadowcat)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14337201

World War Hulk (Shadowcat)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14334940

Superman (Fernus)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14334622

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14334919 [/B]

I saw that, yes.

Interesting to note: Superman, having lesser healing ability than Kara (noted in Supergirl Volume 5 #13 if memory serves),
Hulk under Greg Pak (World War Hulk versus X-Men?),
or Thor via Mjolnir magic (Thor v1 #427-428)

can be effectively knocked out by this style of attack.

Originally posted by 753
her powers can be used to cripple and probably kill superman ... If she plays defensively, the most likely outcome here is a stalemate.

With yourself, P.R., and even Zack Fair admitting stalemate the most likely outcome, I'm content with calling this a draw, too.

Kitty's not likely to try anything lethal, and I suppose it IS possible Superman would just sort of hover around indefinitely using long-range attacks, though that doesn't conform to any DC comic I can personally remember reading.

Certainly I can't see DCnU Superman doing anything of that sort, but, well, no one rose to the challenge of showing me the more restrained side of 52, so it's a moot point.

I'll post the link version of this for people's convenience, along, again, with that excerpt I wrote Carver before, and say "good night" for now ...

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Interesting to note: Superman, having lesser healing ability than Kara (noted in Supergirl Volume 5 #13 if memory serves),
Hulk under Greg Pak (World War Hulk versus X-Men?),
or Thor via Mjolnir magic (Thor v1 #427-428)

can be effectively knocked out by this style of attack.

Superman (Gakidou)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14337214
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14337217

Supergirl (Gakidou)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13892194

Thor (Shadowcat)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14337201

World War Hulk (Shadowcat)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14334940

Superman (Fernus)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14334622

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14334919

I don't remember saying it was a stalemate. Unless I'm just misremembering...

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't remember saying it was a stalemate. Unless I'm just misremembering...

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Shadow Cat, 10/10

Originally posted by Golgo13
Shadowcat drags him into Limbo. Easily.

Originally posted by 753
her powers [B]can be used to cripple and probably kill superman. all other things considered she'd never get a majority or 1/10, really. If she plays deffensively, the most likely outcome here is a stalemate. [/B]

She doesn't start off intangible, guys.

And she doesn't have super speed.

The ONLY way anyone can argue Kitty wins, or even stalemates, is if they argue Superman's saddled with PIS, and doesn't just take her out with super breath, or by running up to her at super speed and giving her a finger flick KO, while Kitty fights a perfect game.

Kitty would straight up break his phucking neck.

Kitty would flawless victory Kal.

She wouldn't even need to use her powers.

Jake, sometimes it feels like we're the only ones who actually read comics.

Originally posted by cdtm
She doesn't start off intangible, guys.

And she doesn't have super speed.

The ONLY way anyone can argue Kitty wins, is if they argue Superman's saddled with PIS, and doesn't just take her out with super breath, or by running up to her at super speed and giving her a finger flick KO, while Kitty fights a perfect game.

interestingly, for a long time she was intangible by defult and had to concentrate to stay solid, but that was reversed later. when magneto pulled her back from space, she was completely intangible, couldnt even speak as she couldnt vibrate the air, but I think her powers went back to deafult solidty after she overcame that stage.

Originally posted by Mindset
She wouldn't even need to use her powers.

I don't see why everyone is so caught on this intangibility non sense.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Exactly. I already pointed out that she is too fast and too strong for Superman.

I don't see why everyone is so caught on this intangibility non sense.

Originally posted by 753
well he usually doesnt instablitz either. I'm not arguing she wins, she can force a stalemate by playing it deffensively.

interestingly, for a long time she was intangible by defult and had to concentrate to stay solid, but that was reversed later. when magneto pulled her back from space, she was completely intangible, couldnt even speak as she couldnt vibrate the air, but I think her powers went back to deafult solidty after she overcame that stage.

True, a blitz is rare. But he'll go for the the kill, when he has to, and this is a fight to the KO.

Besides how often does Kitty go for these tactics blue's championing?

Of course, the heavyweights on Kitty's side came in late and locked up this argument with their far better logic, but I'm just saying.. 😛

I'm going to start reporting people lowballing Shadow Cat by saying she gets beaten by Superman.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Exactly. I already pointed out that she is too fast and too strong for Superman.

I don't see why everyone is so caught on this intangibility non sense.

She doesn't need to be fast. Ninjitsu training FTW.