Wonder Woman Vs Thor

Started by Newjak48 pages

Originally posted by zopzop
H1 why are you wasting time trying to equate Marvel Herc with DC Herc? It's already shown on panel that Diana beat the crap out of Marvel Herc and it's canon.

Plus comparing Marvel Herc to DC Herc based on a shared real life tradition is faulty. For example some of Marvel Herc's 12 Labors were weren't even performed by him but by the Eternal Gilgamesh. This was stated as recently as the Sacred Invasion arc.

Do to the overall nature of the crossover we don't allow it as evidence in forum fights along with other crossovers as well.

For all intents and purposes on the Forum Diana has never fought Marvel Hercules.

Originally posted by Newjak
I wouldn't agree with that statement at all.

It really does depend on the character themselves and less on the name.

Just because they are both Hercules does not in and of itself mean the companies hold that character in the same regard.

Exactly; Marvel's one is held in far higher regard than DC's.

Originally posted by -Pr-

because of that they most likely aren't as strong as one another.

So that would mean that the writers for both have a different opinion of each's maximum strength?

For example, writer for D.C. Hercules might believe that Hercules can lift up to X tons while the writers for Marvel Hercules believe that he can lift up to Y tons.

Personally, I don't believe writers assume a maximum strength for their characters unless they write a story displaying it. I'm thinking both writers would agree they are approximately the same strength if not exactly the same strength. Both have no good reason to believe the other companies counterpart is significantly stronger or weaker. To me, that is the most likely scenario.

Outside the Hercules argument I say WW and Thor are approximately equals in the strength dept.

Originally posted by Newjak
Do to the overall nature of the crossover we don't allow it as evidence in forum fights along with other crossovers as well.

For all intents and purposes on the Forum Diana has never fought Marvel Hercules.


Seriously? It's canon from both Marvel (proof scan posted already) and DC's perspectives. Just because forum members don't like the outcome doesn't mean it shouldn't be able to be used.

Originally posted by h1a8
So that would mean that the writers for both have a different opinion of each's maximum strength?

For example, writer for D.C. Hercules might believe that Hercules can lift up to X tons while the writers for Marvel Hercules believe that he can lift up to Y tons.

Personally, I don't believe writers assume a maximum strength for their characters unless they write a story displaying it. I'm thinking both writers would agree they are approximately the same strength if not exactly the same strength. Both have no good reason to believe the other companies counterpart is significantly stronger or weaker. To me, that is the most likely scenario.

I don't agree at all, to be honest.

Originally posted by zopzop
Seriously? It's canon from both Marvel (proof scan posted already) and DC's perspectives. Just because forum members don't like the outcome doesn't mean it shouldn't be able to be used.

It's not usable. Not being snippy, it's just something we decided a long time ago, because people were relying on it too heavily, to the detriment of characters' in-universe performances.

Originally posted by zopzop
Seriously? It's canon from both Marvel (proof scan posted already) and DC's perspectives. Just because forum members don't like the outcome doesn't mean it shouldn't be able to be used.
The problem from using crossovers in general stems from people's desire to use them as the final outcome of the fights presented without taking anything else into account. Often times sacrificing character history for popularity and trying to crunch all these different fights into one comic.

The fights themselves are also often regulated to one era of a character's existence often ignoring what the character has done before and obviously unable to take into account things the character has done since.

It also becomes dependent on one writer's or a handful of writers' interruption of the characters. You could have a hundred different writers write a Marvel Hercules vs Wonder Woman fight and each one could write differently depending on their view points of the characters.

So for the sake of simplicity and avoiding that we don't allow crossovers in forum fights.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't agree at all, to be honest.

It's not usable. Not being snippy, it's just something we decided a long time ago, because people were relying on it too heavily, to the detriment of characters' in-universe performances.


Or for a more concise answer you can go with this 😛

Thor wins this thread, as has been proven conclusively.

Just finished Thor: God of Thunder #9 today.

It just about clears up any doubt I had that Thor wins this decisively.

Originally posted by deathlife
Just finished Thor: God of Thunder #9 today.

It just about clears up any doubt I had that Thor wins this decisively.

Why what happened?

Originally posted by Newjak
Why what happened?

When Thor was going at it with Gorr, the impact of the blows was shattering worlds around them and Thor had to stop to go and save a moon that was breaking apart.

Massive strength and striking feat.

Wtf! Post dat sheet. I myt finally respect Thor again.

No!
Buy the comic!
Just read my copy...

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Wtf! Post dat sheet. I myt finally respect Thor again.

I actually read it digitally...waiting for the other guys to get it and post here.

Originally posted by deathlife
I actually read it digitally...waiting for the other guys to get it and post here.

You know when you buy a hard copy, u get a digital download as well..

Getting the digital copy only is the same price.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
You know when you buy a hard copy, u get a digital download as well..

Getting the digital copy only is the same price.

Where i am is miles from the nearest comic shop.

I'm actually enjoying my digital experience. Reading comics on the ipad has been a real joy. 😛

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
No!
Buy the comic!
Just read my copy...

🙁 I would, but I'm out on assignment where there are no nearby comic shops and will be here for a month. 🙁

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
You know when you buy a hard copy, u get a digital download as well..

Getting the digital copy only is the same price.


Post the scans already.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Post the scans already.
Dont try jumping onto Thors bandwagon now.

it was 3 thors that fought not 1, and where are people getting that worlds were destroyed? i dont recall that happening at all

regardless, what is actually interesting about this is the fact that Gorr is apparently OMNIVERSAL. it was mentioned an issue prior to 9 i think.