Originally posted by zopzop
Again we saw nothing on panel to confirm the flowery language and hyperbole being thrown around like it was going out of style.You saw for yourself the narrator was retelling legends and stories regarding Gorr's sword and even when he called the THors the greatest of Gods he ended it with "or so the story goes".
Destroying asteriods is one thing, destroying planets is another story.
And going back to your example : the difference between this and the Quasar/Binary "art" is that you had confirmation by THREE witnesses that Binary's portal dwarfed anything Quasar did : Epoch, QUasar's mentor who said it would take days perhaps weeks for Quasar's portal to do the job, Quasar's Q-bands which detected a portal "dwarfing" his, and Binary who sensed Quasar's feeble portal and said it was nowhere near good enough.
No flowery language no hyperbole.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Ok fine. Forget the rest of the story. All I'm talking about is what happened during his direct confrontation with Gorr. Celestial bodies were indirectly being torn apart. Is that a yes or no?
The narrator was using hyperbole. Unless you can provide a scan showing us the number of planets around them as they battled so we can get an idea of how many of them were shattered if the narrator wasn't using flowery language and hyperbole.
Originally posted by zopzop
And what do storytellers use in order to craft epic tales? Hyperbole and exaggeration/flowery language.Then one thing we agree on is that his weapon was powerful. But narrator made it clear he was just retelling stories and legends concerning the sword. Nothing more.
Then what did the narrator say after calling the Thors the greatest of Gods? And I quote "Or so the story goes....".
Perhaps but this is a comic. Stop trying to pick and choose what you want to accept. You're about as consistent as the weather, f*cking pointless discussing anything with you.
Yes, that's exactly what I said. But independent of that, Gorr's own body count is so high after this story that it's probably in the Billions at this point.
Yes and? The narration is told in the form of a tale or story. That doesn't make it any less true, have you not read any Thor related books recently? All his history are just stories, and all of them are true despite some being so wildly conflicting.
Originally posted by zopzop
No. On panel all we saw was the planet's crust starting to crack and a moon about to shatter till Thor stopped it.The narrator was using hyperbole. Unless you can provide a scan showing us the number of planets around them as they battled so we can get an idea of how many of them were shattered if the narrator wasn't using flowery language and hyperbole.
Ok.. Were celestial bodies being indirectly damaged stemming from his direct confrontation with Gorr?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Perhaps but this is a comic. Stop trying to pick and choose what you want to accept. You're about as consistent as the weather, f*cking pointless discussing anything with you.Yes, that's exactly what I said. But independent of that, Gorr's own body count is so high after this story that it's probably in the Billions at this point.
Yes and? The narration is told in the form of a tale or story. That doesn't make it any less true, have you not read any Thor related books recently? All his history are just stories, and all of them are true despite some being so wildly conflicting.
We KNOW for a fact that the narrator was just retelling a story when he called the Thors the greatest of the Gods. The narrator straight up said so.
Now going back to what we actually saw on panel :
http://i.imgur.com/DEIMLqT.jpg
A) Skyfather Thor (who was depowered?) sends Gorr hurtling lightyears in to A MOON (not a planet). The moons crust/surface had a crater from where Gorr landed.
http://i.imgur.com/lC7Odel.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hnYXVxG.jpg
B) Gorr gets up and starts hurling pieces of moon rocks at the Thors
http://i.imgur.com/Fk9C9m6.jpg
C) Thor knocks Gorr back down on the moon and causes a crater
http://i.imgur.com/pjSLOYz.jpg
D) Another moon was on the verge of shattering till Thor saved it.
That's all that happened.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Omg.. 🙁Ok.. Were celestial bodies being indirectly damaged stemming from his direct confrontation with Gorr?
Originally posted by zopzop
We KNOW for a fact the narrator was relating legends and stories concerning the blade because it straight up said so. That's not disputable.We KNOW for a fact that the narrator was just retelling a story when he called the Thors the greatest of the Gods. The narrator straight up said so.
What are you talking about, that's exactly what I said, the narration is giving us possible origins based on stories told of Gorr. But I like how now the narration is not disputable. Jesus, you come off as a babbling lunatic.
Yup, but I don't understand how that makes it any less relevant? Thor was called the ultimate champion of heaven previously IIRC. It's just driving home the theme of the story: Thor is the greatest of Gods.
Originally posted by zopzop
Now going back to what we actually saw on panel :http://i.imgur.com/DEIMLqT.jpg
A) Skyfather Thor (who was depowered?) sends Gorr hurtling lightyears in to A MOON (not a planet). The moons crust/surface had a crater from where Gorr landed.http://i.imgur.com/lC7Odel.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hnYXVxG.jpg
B) Gorr gets up and starts hurling pieces of moon rocks at the Thorshttp://i.imgur.com/Fk9C9m6.jpg
C) Thor knocks Gorr back down on the (same?) moon(?) and causes a craterhttp://i.imgur.com/pjSLOYz.jpg
D) Another moon was on the verge of shattering till Thor saved it.That's all that happened.
Bro, you're in such a rush to lowball you aren't even looking at your own scans.
King Thor blasted Gorr into a Moon, and Young Thor knocks Gorr off the surface of that moon through some kind of worm hole or something (Not sure where that came from but it's the reason Thor had to travel across Stars to get to the fight again) into a planet.
Originally posted by zopzop
We KNOW for a fact the narrator was relating legends and stories concerning the blade because it straight up said so. That's not disputable.We KNOW for a fact that the narrator was just retelling a story when he called the Thors the greatest of the Gods. The narrator straight up said so.
Now going back to what we actually saw on panel :
http://i.imgur.com/DEIMLqT.jpg
A) Skyfather Thor (who was depowered?) sends Gorr hurtling lightyears in to A MOON (not a planet). The moons crust/surface had a crater from where Gorr landed.http://i.imgur.com/lC7Odel.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hnYXVxG.jpg
B) Gorr gets up and starts hurling pieces of moon rocks at the Thorshttp://i.imgur.com/Fk9C9m6.jpg
C) Thor knocks Gorr back down on the (same?) moon(?) and causes a craterhttp://i.imgur.com/pjSLOYz.jpg
D) Another moon was on the verge of shattering till Thor saved it.That's all that happened.
Read above.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What are you talking about, that's exactly what I said, the narration is giving us possible origins based on stories told of Gorr. But I like how now the narration is not disputable. Jesus, you come off as a babbling lunatic.Yup, but I don't understand how that makes it any less relevant? Thor was called the ultimate champion of heaven previously IIRC. It's just driving home the theme of the story: Thor is the greatest of Gods.
Bro, you're in such a rush to lowball you aren't even looking at your own scans.King Thor blasted Gorr into a Moon, and Young Thor knocks Gorr off the surface of that moon through some kind of worm hole or something (Not sure where that came from but it's the reason Thor had to travel across Stars to get to the fight again) into a planet.
1) Depowered All Father Thor sends Gorr flying away from his slave planet into an object may light years away causing a crater:
http://i.imgur.com/DEIMLqT.jpg
Yes or NO?
2) The object Gorr crash landed on is revealed to be a moon and Gorr is hurling moon rocks at the THors :
http://i.imgur.com/lC7Odel.jpg
Yes or no?
3) Gorr demands more power from his slave planet and they send it to him (Thor says he hears the dying gods from many worlds away) :
http://i.imgur.com/uDu9SQY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hnYXVxG.jpg (Gorr rises up from the surface of the moon here and confronts the THors)
Yes, NO?
4) Thor knocks Gorr back down on the moon causing another crater :
http://i.imgur.com/Fk9C9m6.jpg
Yes or NO?
5) Thor flies to the moon Gorr is on and continues the fight
http://i.imgur.com/IrbGFxD.jpg
Yes or no?
6) As a result of the fight the moon they are fighting on is starting to crack under the pressure and a nearby moon is also starting to shatter, Thor breaks off fighting Gorr and saves the nearby moon from shattering :
http://i.imgur.com/pjSLOYz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FrHHCKK.jpg
Yes or no?
7) Thor is on his way back to fight Gorr but Gorr intercepts him :
http://i.imgur.com/0mXwNC9.jpg
Yes or no?
Then the other Thors join in and it continues from there. Which one of the above is in dispute or did I misrepresent according to you?
Originally posted by zopzop
Rage, the narrator straight up says he's just retelling legends and stories. I don't know how to make it any clearer than that.
I get the part about Gorr's weapon (I'm not saying any of those origins are conclusive). I just don't understand how this entire scene being retold in a way similar to a story invalidates anything? Thor is the greatest God as far as this arc has been concerned, it just reiterates what we already know.
Also, why are you picking and choosing what counts within the same story? That's just ridiculous.
Originally posted by zopzop
Follow me here Rage and point out the error, this will make it easier to figure this out.1) Depowered All Father Thor sends Gorr flying away from his slave planet into an object may light years away causing a crater:
http://i.imgur.com/DEIMLqT.jpg
Yes or NO?2) The object Gorr crash landed on is revealed to be a moon and Gorr is hurling moon rocks at the THors :
http://i.imgur.com/lC7Odel.jpg
Yes or no?3) Gorr demands more power from his slave planet and they send it to him (Thor says he hears the dying gods from many worlds away) :
http://i.imgur.com/uDu9SQY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hnYXVxG.jpg (Gorr rises up from the surface of the moon here and confronts the THors)
Yes, NO?4) Thor knocks Gorr back down on the moon causing another crater :
http://i.imgur.com/Fk9C9m6.jpg
Yes or NO?5) Thor flies to the moon Gorr is on and continues the fight
http://i.imgur.com/IrbGFxD.jpg
Yes or no?6) As a result of the fight the moon they are fighting on is starting to crack under the pressure and a nearby moon is also starting to shatter, Thor breaks off fighting Gorr and saves the nearby moon from shattering :
http://i.imgur.com/pjSLOYz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FrHHCKK.jpg
Yes or no?7) Thor is on his way back to fight Gorr but Gorr intercepts him :
http://i.imgur.com/0mXwNC9.jpg
Yes or no?Then the other Thors join in and it continues from there. Which one of the above is in dispute or did I misrepresent according to you?
Lol, you're putting in more effort into this then I ever would.
4, is where you go wrong buddy. Young Thor flies up and knocks Gorr upwards through some kind of wormhole that opens up downward into another planet far away (Completely different texture between the two worlds even).
This why in 5, Thor has to go crazy fast to the point he shatters the Asteroids he passes and causes the Stars to flicker. He wasn't flying down to the original moon King Thor knocked him into but some all-together different part of space.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol, you're putting in more effort into this then I ever would.4, is where you go wrong buddy. Young Thor flies up and knocks Gorr upwards through some kind of portal that opens up downward into another planet far away.
This why in 5, Thor has to go crazy fast to the point he shatters the Asteroids he passes and causes the Stars to flicker. He wasn't flying down to the original moon King Thor knocked him into but some all-together different part of space.
Ok so we agree till 4?
4) Thor knocks Gorr through the gate (the serpent from Gorr's world came through?) and crashes into a (?)
http://i.imgur.com/Fk9C9m6.jpg
Yes No?
5)Thor gives chase and they fight on the surface of (?) and the result is causing fractures in the crust of (?) and begins to shatter a nearby moon that Thor saves
http://i.imgur.com/IrbGFxD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pjSLOYz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FrHHCKK.jpg
Yes, no?
6) Thor flies back to finish the fight but is intercepted by Gorr and the other Thors catch up and join the fight
http://i.imgur.com/0mXwNC9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jBUVL2D.jpg
Yes no?
7) All father Thor knocks Gor into a sun and the other Thors follow
http://i.imgur.com/Xcz87WI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5QqvwYU.jpg
Yes no?
8) Gorr appears to win and it rains down blood from the fight in the sun on Gorr's world, the THors hammers fall there too
http://i.imgur.com/IqxHNyo.jpg
Yes no?
So the (?) that Thor knocked Gorr into through the gate/wormhole was Gorr's slave world? Correct?
Originally posted by zopzop
No, Ok I see what you are saying now. You're right, that appears to be a gate.Ok so we agree till 4?
4) Thor knocks Gorr through the gate (the serpent from Gorr's world came through?) and crashes into a (?)
http://i.imgur.com/Fk9C9m6.jpg
Yes No?5)Thor gives chase and they fight on the surface of (?) and the result is causing fractures in the crust of (?) and begins to shatter a nearby moon that Thor saves
http://i.imgur.com/IrbGFxD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pjSLOYz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FrHHCKK.jpg
Yes, no?6) Thor flies back to finish the fight but is intercepted by Gorr and the other Thors catch up and join the fight
http://i.imgur.com/0mXwNC9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jBUVL2D.jpg
Yes no?7) All father Thor knocks Gor into a sun and the other Thors follow
http://i.imgur.com/Xcz87WI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5QqvwYU.jpg
Yes no?8) Gorr appears to win and it rains down blood from the fight in the sun on Gorr's world, the THors hammers fall there too
http://i.imgur.com/IqxHNyo.jpg
Yes no?So the (?) that Thor knocked Gorr into through the gate/wormhole was Gorr's slave world? Correct?
So you now realize that there is no necessary contradiction?
Everything here is pretty much spot on but the planet Young Thor knocked Gorr into was not Gorr's planet. Gorr's planet is surrounded by the corpses of dead gods, has it's surface littered with dead Gods, has no moon, IIRC is like most of the Universe found in a sector devoid of life (End of time) and has an artificially constructed bomb the size of the moon literally right on top of it's surface.
My theory is the wormhole shot them into a random destination point into some other point of space probably many light years away and like you said, was created by Gorr's serpent.
Also, as you know, I take what the narration in 5 says at face value.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So you now realize that there is no necessary contradiction?Everything here is pretty much spot on but the planet Young Thor knocked Gorr into was not Gorr's planet. Gorr's planet is surrounded by the corpses of dead gods, has it's surface littered with dead Gods, has no moon, IIRC is like most of the Universe found in a sector devoid of life (End of time) and has an artificially constructed bomb the size of the moon literally right on top of it's surface.
My theory is the wormhole shot them into a random destination point into some other point of space probably many light years away and like you said, was created by Gorr's serpent.
Also, as you know, I take what the narration in 5 says at face value.
We'll agree to disagree on the narrator's "verbiage" but I'll agree to this much : the planet that Thor and Gorr were fighting on was starting to crack up from the pressure and the fight also caused some kind of shockwave that was shattering the planet's inhabited moon till Thor saved it.
Originally posted by zopzop
Ok, yes I see now. It's hard to follow on a 7in tablet and I'm not a fan of the art.We'll agree to disagree on the narrator's "verbiage" but I'll agree to this much : the planet that Thor and Gorr were fighting on was starting to crack up from the pressure and the fight also caused some kind of shockwave that was shattering the planet's inhabited moon till Thor saved it.
Anyways, agree to disagree.
