Khan Noonien Singh vs. Yoda

Originally posted by quanchi112
We time out the feats we don't pretend it's faster because you're a fanboy.

Timing out notable feats, not any random unquantifiable garbage that's not indicative of anything

You have to prove its fast you can't just say oh gee this is fast.

Unless we have a reason to believe they're going much slower, we don't assume such

Portrayal and feats matter. They are t portrayed thus far as super fast in combat. Watch cad bane beat Obi and Tano if you disagree.

If Cad can fight Jedi/Sith evenly (pretty sure DP addressed this several times but w/e), then that just says more about his abilities

He doesn't need one. His feats of Klingons is superior to any Jedi or sith feat of combat thus far.

His feat of..... beating featless people. Grade A logic

Seriously, these Khan vs Jedi/Sith threads are giving me strong vibes of the Kain vs Dante/Vergil topics of the old days

"Kain TK's Dante first!"
>someone posts that infamous feat where Dante outruns his sword that moves at hypersonic speeds
"KAIN CAN STILL THINK FASTER"

Just give it up

You're grasping at straws

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Timing out notable feats, not any random unquantifiable garbage that's not indicative of anything

Unless we have a reason to believe they're going much slower, we don't assume such

If Cad can fight Jedi/Sith evenly (pretty sure DP addressed this several times but w/e), then that just says more about his abilities

His feat of..... beating featless people. Grade A logic

If you can't prove they are moving faster we time then out. That's how debating works. If you want to claim something prove it.

It shows force users are not faster than non force users thus dispelling your claims they are. 🙂

Klingons defeated Kirk who has feats. That's a feat.

See I just backed my claim. 😂

Featless clones took out the majority of the Jedi.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you don't time them out or can prove they are moving faster.

We can prove they're faster with feats, which Khan does not have here 👆

If you can't prove they are moving faster we time then out. That's how debating works. If you want to claim something prove it.

We use feats to judge who's faster

It shows force users are not faster than non force users thus dispelling your claims they are. 🙂

Non-force user in one verse doesn't mean a non force user from another verse is equal, I mean, Raiden from Metal Gear doesn't have the force, yet he'd solo every named character in SW (movies only) and ST who's not a Q all at once

It's an arbitary title, only feats matter

Klingons defeated Kirk who has feats. That's a feat.

What feats does Kirk have?

Featless clones took out the majority of the Jedi.

😂

Lots of "featless clones" got shitstomped by Yoda 👆

Originally posted by StealthRanger
We can prove they're faster with feats, which Khan does not have here 👆

We use feats to judge who's faster

Non-force user in one verse doesn't mean a non force user from another verse is equal, I mean, Raiden from Metal Gear doesn't have the force, yet he'd solo every named character in SW (movies only) and ST who's not a Q all at once

It's an arbitary title, only feats matter

What feats does Kirk have?

Lots of "featless clones" got shitstomped by Yoda 👆

Exactly and Khan's feats are undoubtedly superior.

So you admit the force doesn't make them faster combat wise than any skilled combatant in their own universe. I'll take that as a win. Hell, simple hunters were able to capture and hurt young Jedi. Despite the force versus ogres with hatchets they weren't even that greater in combat.

Taking out Romulans, Klingons, and humans.

😂

Yoda had aid from Obi and against droids he needed saved by clones. 100 % canon.

💃

Originally posted by quanchi112
Obi fled. He jumped down the shaft. Pre stood his ground. Basically Sidious having his red guards aim at Yoda means he forfeited the fight as well.

So you make excuses for Palapatine and ignore the advantages of Pre having his mean aid him against Obi.

Sidious tried to flee. Alphas don't flee when they run into other alphas.

Maul owns Kenobi and Pre. Pre owners Kenobi. You're a fool.

Nah.

Pre fled the battle he told his men to handle it. Pre got beat up and retreated. You mean when yoda just walked into the emperors office. I don't think so. That's like walking into the Oval Office without an appointment or invitation. You don't do it. That's where the most powerful man in the world works, you don't do it. So of course they just aim, because they are intruding on their master. Also they just did it, Sidious didn't command anything.

How am I ignoring anything? If I aid you then you are fighting alongside me, not me doing all the work for you. Pre's men did all the work thus he surrendered to kenobi.

Maul>Obi wan>Pre Vizla. This is the correct order. You are the fool

Yea

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Pre fled the battle he told his men to handle it. Pre got beat up and retreated. You mean when yoda just walked into the emperors office. I don't think so. That's like walking into the Oval Office without an appointment or invitation. You don't do it. That's where the most powerful man in the world works, you don't do it. So of course they just aim, because they are intruding on their master. Also they just did it, Sidious didn't command anything.

How am I ignoring anything? If I aid you then you are fighting alongside me, not me doing all the work for you. Pre's men did all the work thus he surrendered to kenobi.

Maul>Obi wan>Pre Vizla. This is the correct order. You are the fool

Yea

Pre beat him up and then had his men help in which Obi fled.

Maul beat them both. Obi never beat Pre.

Nah.

Sidious is a coward.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is being smart not fleeing which Obi did. So the most powerful guy just has two guarding him ? Hahahahahaha. Sidious tried to flee one on one which is worse.

Pre beat him up and then had his men help in which Obi fled.

Maul beat them both. Obi never beat Pre.

Nah.

Sidious is a coward.

What do you mean being smart? He got beat so he gave it to his men thus losing his fight with Obi wan. Pre fled and Obi won. There were no others. Also Sidious can protect himself as seen in his fights with yoda and windu. By ROTJ he and around 10 guards and throughout the empire he had guards as well. He also had vader.

Obi gave him the better beating. He got the last licks in. He got beat and he told his men to handle it.

He did in his battle with pre you idiot. Maul is the best with Obi in second and pre in last.

Yea

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
What do you mean being smart? He got beat so he gave it to his men thus losing his fight with Obi wan. Pre fled and Obi won. There were no others. Also Sidious can protect himself as seen in his fights with yoda and windu. By ROTJ he and around 10 guards and throughout the empire he had guards as well. He also had vader.

Obi gave him the better beating. He got the last licks in. He got beat and he told his men to handle it.

He did in his battle with pre you idiot. Maul is the best with Obi in second and pre in last.

Yea

Nah.

Maul is better than both but Obi never beat Pre. Nah.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He didn't lose and let his men interfere. Sidious tried fleeing., cowardly.

Nah.

Maul is better than both but Obi never beat Pre. Nah.

He did lose. He told his men to handle it because he got the crap beat out of him. Yet he stayed and fight and did pretty well.

Yea.

Maul is better but Obi is,second after maul. Yea.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He did lose. He told his men to handle it because he got the crap beat out of him. Yet he stayed and fight and did pretty well.

Yea.

Maul is better but Obi is,second after maul. Yea.

Nah,

Maul crushes Kenobi. Pre never lost to him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he didn't since he was able to fight back. Obi fled.

Nah,

Maul crushes Kenobi. Pre never lost to him.

So? He told his men to handle it after kenobi beat him to,the ground. Pre fled first.

Yea.

We agree maul beats Obi wan. Pre did lose to Obi. Accept it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
False. They aren't faster based off feats hence your timing doesn't count nonsense.

>sprint down a hundred meter+ hallway in a few seconds
>deflect blaster bolts from close range
>move so fast lesser Jedi can't see anything but faint lightsaber swings
>no speed feats

:lmao

Exactly and Khan's feats are undoubtedly superior.

Like his grand total of..... 0 speed feats

So you admit the force doesn't make them faster combat wise than any skilled combatant in their own universe.

If said non force users can fight them on even grounds hysically, then that just says more about their physical abilities then the contrary

Khan on the other hand has..... no such luxury

I'll take that as a win. Hell, simple hunters were able to capture and hurt young Jedi. Despite the force versus ogres with hatchets they weren't even that greater in combat.

We're talking about Yoda, do try to stay on topic

Taking out Romulans, Klingons, and humans.

😂

Amusing how in the face of actual feats you just keep bringing up.... beating up schmucks with no feats as if that means shit

Yoda had aid from Obi and against droids he needed saved by clones. 100 % canon.

💃

Yoda doing most of the work, and saved by clones, what are you talking about?

Originally posted by StealthRanger
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We're talking about Yoda, do try to stay on topic

The Troll has a real problem with that.

Basically he knows Yoda stomps Khan, so his only resort is to low ball much much much lesser Jedi.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Yoda doing most of the work, and saved by clones, what are you talking about?

He's talking about this:

?v=wmwWKrtPW9g

Right at the end at 3:05 after Yoda has already accomplished feats far far far beyond anything Khan is capable of. Including speed which the Troll keeps ranting on about 😂

I've already proven many many many times that Yoda instantly freezes Khan:

?v=mHacOCI_zYI

^ The Troll has been unable to give any proper rebuttal to this, so just lies about what happens in the video instead. So he's already lost this debate pages and pages and pages ago, and he's lost embarrassingly so.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
>sprint down a hundred meter+ hallway in a few seconds
>deflect blaster bolts from close range
>move so fast lesser Jedi can't see anything but faint lightsaber swings
>no speed feats

:lmao

Like his grand total of..... 0 speed feats

If said non force users can fight them on even grounds hysically, then that just says more about their physical abilities then the contrary

Khan on the other hand has..... no such luxury

We're talking about Yoda, do try to stay on topic

Amusing how in the face of actual feats you just keep bringing up.... beating up schmucks with no feats as if that means shit

Yoda doing most of the work, and saved by clones, what are you talking about?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9DI8kkR9G0Q

So take your own advice. That wasn't Yoda running down the hallway that was Qui and Kenobi. I'm so ****ing good at this. What scene did Yoda move so fast Jedi can only see faint swings ? You love making shit up and using other feats for Yoda.

Based off the evidence if Khah can fire without warning in less than two seconds he kills Yoda. Watch the video. That's evidence talking, troll.
😂

It destroys your laughable claims they have combat super speed. I have numerous examples of non force users getting eradicated. We don't see anyone else run down hallways with Kenobi sprinting speed but we see non force users ok Kenobi due to being faster in combat. Khan is far faster than taking two seconds to blast someone. That blast hit and ko'd Yoda despite precognition and a warning. Evidence, sport.

Irony since you asked for feats. He beat Klingons who ended up physically overwhelming him yet suddenly no one gets any feats. You're a fool. Kirk has feats unlike most of the dullards Yoda has beaten. The only one he beat was ventress but she's horribly outmatched with the same skill set. Yoda failed to best Dooku or Palpatine. He even needed help against featless droids. 😂

Watch the clone wars episode, ignoramus.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So? He told his men to handle it after kenobi beat him to,the ground. Pre fled first.

Yea.

We agree maul beats Obi wan. Pre did lose to Obi. Accept it.

Nah.

No, he didn't. Obi fled first as soon as things got hot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Pre was still there and Obi fled down the shaft. Fleeing is leaving the scene.

Nah.

No, he didn't. Obi fled first as soon as things got hot.

He left the fight. He surrendered to Obi won. When Obi went down the shaft their battle was already over when pre told his men to handle it. Pre Bizla lost the battle due to him surrendering to Obi.

Concession accepted.

He went down the shaft when Satine was endanger. If that were the case why didn't he just leave the dirts time around? He was perfectly willing and capable of handling those three mandalorian said rockets. He beat Pre so, Obi is the alpha.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He left the fight. He surrendered to Obi won. When Obi went down the shaft their battle was already over when pre told his men to handle it. Pre Bizla lost the battle due to him surrendering to Obi.

Concession accepted.

He went down the shaft when Satine was endanger. If that were the case why didn't he just leave the dirts time around? He was perfectly willing and capable of handling those three mandalorian said rockets. He beat Pre so, Obi is the alpha.

You conceded.

So you admit he fled.

😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
When you surrender you no longer fight or order your allies to fight. He took aid and Obi fled. Obi lost.

You conceded.

So you admit he fled.

😆

That's what he did. So according to you Pre lost. He stopped fighting, and told his men to handle it. If I aid you I support you along with your help. That's like in war. If the Great Britain aids the U.S. Britain doesn't do all the work, the U.S. helps.

Exactly you conceded.

So we both agree Obi is greater than Pre. Finally.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
That's what he did. So according to you Pre lost. He stopped fighting, and told his men to handle it. If I aid you I support you along with your help. That's like in war. If the Great Britain aids the U.S. Britain doesn't do all the work, the U.S. helps.

Exactly you conceded.

So we both agree Obi is greater than Pre. Finally.

You conceded.

No, Obi did not prove that. There was no winner.