Originally posted by quanchi112
Pre already fought so asking for aid is accurate.Nah.
Fleeing means leaving which Obi did.
You lose, again.
And he got beat by the Jedi. He didn't ask for aid. He told them to take care of it once he got beat.
Yea.
Pre fled the battle. This is proved by how his men had to step in. He surrendered to the Jedi.
I win again.
Re: Khan Noonien Singh vs. Yoda
Originally posted by quanchi112
This is Khan Noonien Singh from Star Trek: Into Darkness vs. Yoda from the live action films only. Yoda has had enough. Khan has been ruthlessly slaughtering jedis with greater precision than Order 66. The fight takes place in the Senate Pod room. Can the most powerful Jedi survive ?
bringing you back from Kenobi the corusont straight edge,
if you had given khan ranged weaponry he would have had a slightly better chance of winning although he doesn't have a chance at all.
my question is why you think an engineered human can beat a lightsaber wielding master of the jedi and force who has infact proven that:
1- his TK is strong enough to lift a 7 ton senator platform
2- his jumping and fighting speed is definitely of an elite class
3- he can survive a clash with a powerful sith lord
Originally posted by StealthRangerIt took 2 seconds which is quantifiable. My opinion on the impressiveness or lack therefor doesn't change the fact it takes two seconds. Fact.
No, it's pretty much useless, a vast majority of fiction is like this, hence why you cannot just nitpick any random thing and just go "oh that doesn't look impressive to me so it's not", else I could prolly do the same for Khan, or VoldemortExactly, we go with feats, such as Jedi sprinting down hallways in seconds, and comparing Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon to Sidious and Yoda is like comparing Saiyan Saga Vegeta and Freiza
And them deflecting blasters from close range
Now your turn to show a speed feat from Khan
You sure love your red herrings
Kind of why Clone Wars and Star Wars Rebels are allowed too, rite?
That just says more about Mandalorians and Cad then it does to the contrary
inb4 "non force users" title means I can dismiss any feats offhand because um... um... potatoes I guess
Can you present feats?
"Just because a character can move at Mach 1500 doesn't mean he can punch at 20 m/s!"
As usual, you make terrible arguments
Based off feats, Jedi deflect blaster bolts from a few meters away, Khan has no such luxury
So IOW just more useless garbage
Did he say, move at mach speeds? Did he pulverise boulders with his punches? Kinda what I'm asking for, not beating up featless schmucks
Also if some mooks beat up a guy in ST it's a feat, if the same thin happens in SW it's not. Nice double standards
The wookies didn't do anything
Irrelevant tangent
No, you're just grasping at straws, still doesn't change that Dooku couldn't win
Except that you didn't, you just nitpicked random things and assumed it was evidence, vs debating doesn't work that way
So sprinting away from combat he and Qui are really fast. 😂
They have never deflected blasts that can bring ships down like from Khan's Boolean gun.
Keep running from the evidence.
That's an exception the novels are not. 😂
So you admit the connection to the force doesn't make them super fast. I agree. Khan has greater feats in the Klingons scene than Jango, Cad, etc. 😂
Klingon scene, troll.
Citing that line doesn't prove your case. If you make a claim prove it.
What does that have to do with a two second attack King yoda he was warned prior to about ? 😂
Yoda was accompanied by them so they had numbers to protect him. It wasn't Yoda on his own or anything after he killed the featless clones.
He beat up guys with feats. Yoda gets a free pass despite needing aid from the droids yet suddenly nothing Kirk does counts. Lol.
Kirk took out Klingons who were portrayed as far greater than Spock and crew.
Dooku didn't lose despite going up against Yoda. Awful showing since Anakin crushed Dooku quite easily.
I picked feats from the films that are quantifiable. You said the novels say blurs.
😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
It took 2 seconds which is quantifiable. My opinion on the impressiveness or lack therefor doesn't change the fact it takes two seconds. Fact.
Speed feats in the verse make it irrelevant. Been there done this, moving on
So sprinting away from combat he and Qui are really fast. 😂
Yes moving down a several hundred feet long hall in a second or two is a speed feat, who knew
They have never deflected blasts that can bring ships down like from Khan's Boolean gun.
Err, talking about speed here, try to stay on topic
Keep running from the evidence.
You have no evidence
That's an exception the novels are not. 😂
Because you say so? Nah I don't think so
So you admit the connection to the force doesn't make them super fast. I agree. Khan has greater feats in the Klingons scene than Jango, Cad, etc. 😂
Translation: I am a dumbcunt who cannot read and if I strawman my opponent maybe I can win
Khan has no feats of keeping up in combat with guys who move down corridors in seconds or deflect blaster bolts from close range
And several Klingons were required to overpower a human of whom you've named no impressive feats for other than some circular logic of "beating Klingons"
Klingon scene, troll.
Quantify it or **** off
Citing that line doesn't prove your case. If you make a claim prove it.
Not my fault you an autistic inbred who thinks that leg movement is orders of magnitude slower than arm movement
What does that have to do with a two second attack King yoda he was warned prior to about ? 😂
Actual feats>random ass scenes that are not indicative of any capacity whatsoever
Unless according to you Matrix Agents are only peak human because when they fight we don't see super flashy camera effects
Yoda was accompanied by them so they had numbers to protect him. It wasn't Yoda on his own or anything after he killed the featless clones.
Can you show me where the Wookies with Yoda killed any of the clones?
He beat up guys with feats.
Name one
Yoda gets a free pass despite needing aid from the droids yet suddenly nothing Kirk does counts. Lol.
See, difference here you inbred autist is that, prepare to be schooled, people on Yoda's side have actually names quantifiable feats of speed and DC, you haven't named one impressive feat for Kirk aside from some stupidass circular logic
Kirk took out Klingons who were portrayed as far greater than Spock and crew.
If Spock and crew were say, capable of moving at mach speeds and pulverizing boulders with their punches, then you might have a worthwhile gauge, until then, as usual, you have nothing
Dooku didn't lose despite going up against Yoda.
Dooku ran, he had no way of winning
Awful showing since Anakin crushed Dooku quite easily.
Good for Anakin
I picked feats from the films that are quantifiable. You said the novels say blurs.
😂
"Moving so fast Anakin couldn't see them at all, only feel them through the force", more like it
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2He ordered them for aid and Obi fled.
And he got beat by the Jedi. He didn't ask for aid. He told them to take care of it once he got beat.Yea.
Pre fled the battle. This is proved by how his men had to step in. He surrendered to the Jedi.
I win again.
Nah.
Fleeing means leaving, Obi left.
You lost. Again.
Re: Re: Khan Noonien Singh vs. Yoda
Originally posted by Genesis-SoldierKhan has the weapons from the Klingon scene which is long ranged weaponry, kid.
bringing you back from Kenobi the corusont straight edge,
if you had given khan ranged weaponry he would have had a slightly better chance of winning although he doesn't have a chance at all.my question is why you think an engineered human can beat a lightsaber wielding master of the jedi and force who has infact proven that:
1- his TK is strong enough to lift a 7 ton senator platform
2- his jumping and fighting speed is definitely of an elite class
3- he can survive a clash with a powerful sith lord
He's far superior strength wise to Obi. He crushed a skull, kid.
1-Khan's gun is powerful enough to one shot Klingon ships. My feat is better than your feat.
2-The same can be said of Khan. Actually more so since Cad Bane has shown himself quicker in koing Kenobi.
3-Khan would kill the Sith Lords so survival is something a lesser like Kenobi would hope to achieve.
Khan wins, kid.
Originally posted by StealthRangerOne fact doesn't make another fact disappear. Your cherry picking is fanboyism.
Speed feats in the verse make it irrelevant. Been there done this, moving onYes moving down a several hundred feet long hall in a second or two is a speed feat, who knew
Err, talking about speed here, try to stay on topic
You have no evidence
Because you say so? Nah I don't think so
Translation: I am a dumbcunt who cannot read and if I strawman my opponent maybe I can win
Khan has no feats of keeping up in combat with guys who move down corridors in seconds or deflect blaster bolts from close range
And several Klingons were required to overpower a human of whom you've named no impressive feats for other than some circular logic of "beating Klingons"
Quantify it or **** off
Not my fault you an autistic inbred who thinks that leg movement is orders of magnitude slower than arm movement
Actual feats>random ass scenes that are not indicative of any capacity whatsoever
Unless according to you Matrix Agents are only peak human because when they fight we don't see super flashy camera effects
Can you show me where the Wookies with Yoda killed any of the clones?
Name one
See, difference here you inbred autist is that, prepare to be schooled, people on Yoda's side have actually names quantifiable feats of speed and DC, you haven't named one impressive feat for Kirk aside from some stupidass circular logic
If Spock and crew were say, capable of moving at mach speeds and pulverizing boulders with their punches, then you might have a worthwhile gauge, until then, as usual, you have nothing
Dooku ran, he had no way of winning
Good for Anakin
"Moving so fast Anakin couldn't see them at all, only feel them through the force", more like it
Running isn't fighting speed it's sprinting. They sprinted away from combat. The fastest speed ever seen thus far is avoiding a fight.
So you concede the power point. Perfect.
I have cited evidence you ignore. Fanboyism is a nasty thing.
Where in the rules are the novels allowed ? Cite the exception.
You're being emotional, sad.
That's combat speed and cad bane can't move that fast either but he still beat Obi the guy who ran away from a fight with that speed.
Kirk isn't a normal human. One was enough to overpower but Kirk had a phaser so a few were required to disarm and subdue him. Facts how wonderful they are.
Watch the scene. I've already quantified it but when I do like say the Yoda Jo blast you ignore that it took two seconds.
Sprinting isn't combat speed. You made the claim so back it up.
All facts are facts. Your cherry picking isn't debating it's fanboyism. Yoda was ko'd by a two second warned attack. We see they are super fast due to the feats and portrayal. We see they can dodge bullets with ease. Not the case with the Jedi.
After Yoda killed the two clones he ran up the ones back. That's called being aided after the two clones meaning he wasn't alone against numerous clones after he killed the two. I never said wookiees killed clones there. 😆
I already have you simply ignore facts and cherry pick your own.
What incredible fears of speed does Yoda have ? Feel free to name them. Points to Palpatine's two second attack that was warned that ko'd Yoda and laughs at you. That's awful. Kirk would have shot him while he warned him IMO.
The Jedi are t in combat either. Bane can't move at those speeds yet he was quicker and ko'd Kenobi.
He still didn't lose. Awful showing for Yoda since Anakin crushed him in seconds one on one.
Bad for Yoda.
We see in the film Anakin show up at the end of the fight. Films. Quit citing invalid sources, fanboy.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Irony as he wanted aid. He got it and Obi fled.
Do you not know what aid is. They didn't aid him, they took over the battle for him because pre lost.Yea.
So pre fled the battle first aka surrendering.
I win again. 💃
Nah.
Fleeing isn't surrendering. Fleeing is fleeing.
You lose again.
💃
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2He already fought Obi and his men aided. Obi fled before Pre decimated him.
Concession accepted as he didn't get aid he got his men doing the work for him.Yea.
He surrendered to Obi wan.
I win again. 😂 💃
Nah.
Obi fled. Surrendering is not fighting and giving up.
You don't even know what words mean.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He already fought Obi and his men aided. Obi fled before Pre decimated him.Nah.
Obi fled. Surrendering is not fighting and giving up.
You don't even know what words mean.
And Obi beat him. His men ran him off when they assaulted his girlfriend.
Yea.m
Yes it is. That's exactly what surrendering means. You give up.
I can see you don't understand words. Look at yourself.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Prpve Obj beat him. What injuries did he sustain ?
And Obi beat him. His men ran him off when they assaulted his girlfriend.Yea.m
Yes it is. That's exactly what surrendering means. You give up.
I can see you don't understand words. Look at yourself.
Nah.
No, sure ending and fleeing don't mean the same thing, kiddo.
You're an awful debater. Really.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Prpve Obj beat him. What injuries did he sustain ?Nah.
No, sure ending and fleeing don't mean the same thing, kiddo.
You're an awful debater. Really.
I already have as seen in the video. What injuries did Obi sustain?
Yea.
Pre surrendered to Obi as proved by the fight.
Stop describing yourself. Also quit being a coward. You put what should be Star Wars versus forums threads into movies vs threads. It's because you know you would get even more stomped. Stop being a coward.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Obi fled without significant injuries. Hahah,
I already have as seen in the video. What injuries did Obi sustain?Yea.
Pre surrendered to Obi as proved by the fight.
Stop describing yourself. Also quit being a coward. You put what should be Star Wars versus forums threads into movies vs threads. It's because you know you would get even more stomped. Stop being a coward.
Nah.
Nope.
I argue in continuity not made up shit, boy.