Khan Noonien Singh vs. Yoda

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Are you sure we don't see him throwing the fight? Do we not see him pass up obvious blows? Do we not see the timing of Anakins arrival? Do we not see how Sidious knows basically all the circumstances, the Jedi are coming and anakins turmoil. He has time to plan, and has already made plans like this belfry one being the plan with Dooku vs Anakin at the start of the movie.

You said we agreed.

Yes he could as he was able to push it back onto Sidious. Did you not see yoda buckle down and get serious and push it back on yoda, or are you ignoring that part because it works against you thus showing your biased and your ignorance. He absorbed and shot the lightning right back at Dooku and pushed it back on Sidious. Re watch the movies boy.

No.

Yoda didn't send it back at Sheev as it hit them both. Phaser Klingon shooting power is far greater than force lightning.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We don't see that. I hear you claim nonsense. Windu is the one who had him dead to rights and doesn't kill him right away. Anakin showed up then and Sheev still cried he will die.

No.

Yoda didn't send it back at Sheev as it hit them both. Phaser Klingon shooting power is far greater than force lightning.

https://youtu.be/YBLcxXR1PMw

Obvious miss number one. Sidious has him at sword point with no way for windu to get out of it if Sidious doesn't try and stab him

Obvious miss number 2. Sidious never uses his force powers in the middle of battle when he clearly outclassed windu as a force weilder.

Obvious miss number 3. When he had windu on his back foot he let him region his composure is head of just finishing him with the speed he killed the other masters with. Well windu did die. 😂

He sent it back at him it just exploded. It was going toward Sheev then it exploded. Really when it hit those Klingons they didn't seem to vaporize. They really seemed to just got killed something Sidious is capable of doing with lightning.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
https://youtu.be/YBLcxXR1PMw

Obvious miss number one. Sidious has him at sword point with no way for windu to get out of it if Sidious doesn't try and stab him

Obvious miss number 2. Sidious never uses his force powers in the middle of battle when he clearly outclassed windu as a force weilder.

Obvious miss number 3. When he had windu on his back foot he let him region his composure is head of just finishing him with the speed he killed the other masters with. Well windu did die. 😂

He sent it back at him it just exploded. It was going toward Sheev then it exploded. Really when it hit those Klingons they didn't seem to vaporize. They really seemed to just got killed something Sidious is capable of doing with lightning.

He wasn't powerful to send it back to Sheev's and it knocked weak Yoda off. 😂

He blow holes through their bodies while Luke walked away like nothing hit him. You're an idiot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Speculation.

He wasn't powerful to send it back to Sheev's and it knocked weak Yoda off. 😂

He blow holes through their bodies while Luke walked away like nothing hit him. You're an idiot.

Proves my point. You know the evidence is there you're just biased. I win.

He's just as powerful as Sheev which is why he couldn't push it complelty back on Sheev.

Holes? I didn't see any holes? Sidious was torturing him for most of the time. Don't describe yourself.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Proves my point. You know the evidence is there you're just biased. I win.

He's just as powerful as Sheev which is why he couldn't push it complelty back on Sheev.

Holes? I didn't see any holes? Sidious was torturing him for most of the time. Don't describe yourself.

No I win!

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Proves my point. You know the evidence is there you're just biased. I win.

He's just as powerful as Sheev which is why he couldn't push it complelty back on Sheev.

Holes? I didn't see any holes? Sidious was torturing him for most of the time. Don't describe yourself.

So something more powerful than him he can't push back. Gotcha.

Then you didn't watch the movie because the holes were huge.

He still went to kill him for over ten seconds. Weak old dead guy.

Originally posted by quanchi112

He still went to kill him for over ten seconds. Weak old dead guy.

Prove he went straight for the kill. Or finally admit you're a TROLL.

Dooku's Lightning made explosions in the Cave Wall. Whilst Luke has natural Force defenses.

You can save a tiny bit of grace and admit to all of us you're a Big Time Troll anytime now.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Prove he went straight for the kill. Or finally admit you're a TROLL.

Dooku's Lightning made explosions in the Cave Wall. Whilst Luke has natural Force defenses.

You can save a tiny bit of grace and admit to all of us you're a Big Time Troll anytime now.

His lightning also failed to kill Anakin. Khan's gun one shots Klingon patrol ships and leaves massive holes in armored up Klingons. 😂

You're the troll. A gutless one who forfeits multiple threads and comes back from time to time after he's licked his own wounds.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, speculation.

So something more powerful than him he can't push back. Gotcha.

Then you didn't watch the movie because the holes were huge.

He still went to kill him for over ten seconds. Weak old dead guy.

Prove it. Saying something is this or that without proof is just being biased and stonewalling. Prove its speculation or get out of this thread.

Do you not understand the words "just as powerful". Means tied, means stalemate, means equals.

I saw it I just recall them being like huge. They just seemed more like hit and kill but not leaving actually holes. if there were which I don't recall they weren't noticeable to me.

Really that's more of a plot device. Luke had to stay alive so no matter what he couldn't have died. If he died Star Wars couldn't have an episode 7 and the villain would have won. So really it was a plot device if that were realistic Luke would have most likely died.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Prove it. Saying something is this or that without proof is just being biased and stonewalling. Prove its speculation or get out of this thread.

Do you not understand the words "just as powerful". Means tied, means stalemate, means equals.

I saw it I just recall them being like huge. They just seemed more like hit and kill but not leaving actually holes. if there were which I don't recall they weren't noticeable to me.

Really that's more of a plot device. Luke had to stay alive so no matter what he couldn't have died. If he died Star Wars couldn't have an episode 7 and the villain would have won. So really it was a plot device if that were realistic Luke would have most likely died.

Equal power doesn't mean equal formidability. Sheev won and he's also more powerful.

Then you didn't pay attention as it left massive holes in them.

Luke still had to love but he walked away with no serious injuries. That's weak. Undeniable. Ten seconds plus and no serious injuries. Khan is far more powerful than the geriatric.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Onus is on you.

Equal power doesn't mean equal formidability. Sheev won and he's also more powerful.

Then you didn't pay attention as it left massive holes in them.

Luke still had to love but he walked away with no serious injuries. That's weak. Undeniable. Ten seconds plus and no serious injuries. Khan is far more powerful than the geriatric.

Concession accepted.

Yes it does. It means your equal in power. Force power is greater than skill with the blade. If you're more powerful than your more formidable than someone with the blade.

I'll have to rewatch it.

He sure was suffering while he was ensign shocked even when he want being shocked he was struggling to move. Inconsistency.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Concession accepted.

Yes it does. It means your equal in power. Force power is greater than skill with the blade. If you're more powerful than your more formidable than someone with the blade.

I'll have to rewatch it.

He sure was suffering while he was ensign shocked even when he want being shocked he was struggling to move. Inconsistency.

Bruce Lee is less powerful than Ronnie Coleman the bodybuilder but Bruce Lee is more skilled and would crush him. False. Dooku needed his blade against Yoda. His force power was useless. Windu beat Sheev's force power. 😂

No shit.

It hurt not significantly. The lightning has always been inconsistent. Maul wasn't hurt badly either. It just hurt.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When you make the claim you have to prove it. That's how debating works.

Bruce Lee is less powerful than Ronnie Coleman the bodybuilder but Bruce Lee is more skilled and would crush him. False. Dooku needed his blade against Yoda. His force power was useless. Windu beat Sheev's force power. 😂

No shit.

It hurt not significantly. The lightning has always been inconsistent. Maul wasn't hurt badly either. It just hurt.

I know. I proved my claim and you responded with some onus is on you. Showing you couldn't deny my proof.

Force power is better than skill with the blade. I can attack you from different angles cause so much that you can't block, like the collapse of the building, or getting your saber taken away, and with that getting shocked. The force is better. Dooku isn't as powerful as yoda. So your need to being that is irrelevant. Windu was allowed do to what he did because Sidious allowed it. Fact?

Inconsistency is the only word for it.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I know. I proved my claim and you responded with some onus is on you. Showing you couldn't deny my proof.

Force power is better than skill with the blade. I can attack you from different angles cause so much that you can't block, like the collapse of the building, or getting your saber taken away, and with that getting shocked. The force is better. Dooku isn't as powerful as yoda. So your need to being that is irrelevant. Windu was allowed do to what he did because Sidious allowed it. Fact?

Inconsistency is the only word for it.

False as evidenced by Windu. 😂

Lucas says he overcame him, fact.

No, it has always been consistently painful not powerful.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
You didn't back your claim you just made a baseless claim. Onus is on you.

False as evidenced by Windu. 😂

Lucas says he overcame him, fact.

No, it has always been consistently painful not powerful.

😂

I proved it. You couldn't disprove it or rebut it is the proper word for you.

Sidious didn't use his force powers during their duel and also Sidious threw the fight in my view so really you saying that is both a waste of time and irrelevant.

Doesn't mean he legitamently beta him just describing that particular scene.

Wrong.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I proved it. You couldn't disprove it or rebut it is the proper word for you.

Sidious didn't use his force powers during their duel and also Sidious threw the fight in my view so really you saying that is both a waste of time and irrelevant.

Doesn't mean he legitamently beta him just describing that particular scene.

Wrong.

Yes, he used the powers after he lost his saber. No, he didn't throw it and Lucas stated it. Undeniable.

Yes, it does. That's exactly what those words mean.

I am right.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't have to disprove your claim you need to prove it, dummy.

Yes, he used the powers after he lost his saber. No, he didn't throw it and Lucas stated it. Undeniable.

Yes, it does. That's exactly what those words mean.

I am right.

I've already proved my point now it's your turn to disprove it now that I've proved it.

He never used aggressive force powers during the battle. We already know that everything after the lightsaber duel was a fake. The entire fight in my view was also a fake. Lucas never states that windu wins legitamently.

It means what you see onscreen we see windu win possibly. However when adding all the facts we see it becomes clear that Sidious did possibly throw the fight.

In your dreams.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He said, "Now you will die!" Doesn't get any clearer than that, Darth troll.

Official Site says he wanted to torture and kill him. Not that you need the official site to tell you something that obvious. Sheev was seriously peeved off Luke rejected him, and was not going to give him the mercy of a quick death.

But hey don't ever make any attempt to understand story or context. I'm sure Trolling's a lot more fun for you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His lightning also failed to kill Anakin. Khan's gun one shots Klingon patrol ships and leaves massive holes in armored up Klingons. 😂

So you're just going to ignore the proof I gave about Lightning exploding the cave ceiling? That's why you're a Troll. Anakin has the Force dumb ass.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You're the troll. A gutless one who forfeits multiple threads and comes back from time to time after he's licked his own wounds.

I've kicked your butt on multiple threads which is why you keep running like a coward from my multiple battlezone challenges 😂

So I've got nothing to prove here. You're the one who just keeps repeating the same arguments that have been broken down thoroughly, because you have no shame.

I just come back now and then to embarrass you again and remind you of the constant ass whoopings you've had from me. And to keep watching you run from my battlezone challenges which we both know you'd lose, and then we can end these Troll threads for good. But obviously Mr. Troll doesn't want that 😂

Really Dooku has never attempted to kill Anakin wig lightning. He's always wanted to torture of incapacitate, and if he has wanted to,kill than he has always either ran out of time to do so or had to make a quick escape for some reason.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I've already proved my point now it's your turn to disprove it now that I've proved it.

He never used aggressive force powers during the battle. We already know that everything after the lightsaber duel was a fake. The entire fight in my view was also a fake. Lucas never states that windu wins legitamently.

It means what you see onscreen we see windu win possibly. However when adding all the facts we see it becomes clear that Sidious did possibly throw the fight.

In your dreams.

We see he tries to kill Windu and later does after Anakin disarms him so you're lying. He says he overcame him which means legit.

There is no evidence and it contradicts Sheev's words, the clear intent of the scene, as well as Lucas own commentary.