Khan Noonien Singh vs. Yoda

Originally posted by Darth Thor
KT has Quanchi by the balls.

Incorrect. That isn't trying to avoid the attack. That is trying to ABSORB the attack. Avoiding it is dodging it, jumping out of the way.. ducking... Those are things you do to avoid the attack. When you're trying to absorb the attack.. you do the OPPOSITE of avoid it, in fact, you stand right there to try and absorb it. Understand the difference?

Okay, but again, he didn't try and avoid it. You have ZERO evidence for him trying to avoid the attack. I've unquestionably proved he was in fact trying to do the opposite of avoid it, he was in fact, trying to stand right there and absorb it. So you haven't cited one time he failed to avoid a 2 second attack. not one instance. All you have is one instance where Yoda wasn't prepared for the power of the Emperor, something he remedy shortly there after when he was able to absorb it and redirect it.

What's worse, even if that was him trying to avoid (which it unquestionably is not) but let's assume it is. Lets do a quick count of the times he's failed to avoid a 2 second attack and the times he's successfully avoided a two second or shorter attack. You're saying the evidence is on your side, when it's EXPONENTIALLY on my side. All I need to do is point to his fights with Dooku, Sids, Clone Wars, Droids etc etc and EVERY TIME THEY SWING THEIR SABER AT YODA.. It takes far less than two seconds. Guess what, I'll show him flipping and dodging them OVER AND OVER. So the evidence is totally on my side. If you disagree, and think he's failed at it more, than let's go....

Name me the times he's failed to avoid a 2 second attack... and I'll count the times he has. You already know how this will turn out so you'll avoid it. Which will just mean another concession that indeed Yoda has far more times avoiding 2 second stacks than being struck by them.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
KT has Quanchi by the balls.

It's pretty bad, but you should see the Azog vs. Mountain thread. Quan is going full contradicting mode cause I have him cornered. Now, he's claiming Azog beat Thorin the first time they fought simply because he disarmed him... even though:

1. Thorin adlibbed picked up another weapon and proceeded to severely wound Azog.

2. At which point his men drag away a kicking and screaming Azog from the battlefield.. BFRing himself. Not only did Azog not defeat Thorin he was in fact defeated by Thorin

3. So much was the defeat of Azog, the dwarves were shown to rally behind Thorin's showing and drive he enemy back.

What's key to note and the blatantly hypocrisy quan is displaying is that he claimed Viktor was never defeated by his daughter just because she disarmed him. Yet here he's claiming Azog defeated Thorin simply because he disarmed him. So then, by that logic, Viktor was also defeated by his daughter. Ouch, that must hurt his soul

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Incorrect. That isn't trying to avoid the attack. That is trying to ABSORB the attack. Avoiding it is dodging it, jumping out of the way.. ducking... Those are things you do to avoid the attack. When you're trying to absorb the attack.. you do the OPPOSITE of avoid it, in fact, you stand right there to try and absorb it. Understand the difference?

Okay, but again, he didn't try and avoid it. You have ZERO evidence for him trying to avoid the attack. I've unquestionably proved he was in fact trying to do the opposite of avoid it, he was in fact, trying to stand right there and absorb it. So you haven't cited one time he failed to avoid a 2 second attack. not one instance. All you have is one instance where Yoda wasn't prepared for the power of the Emperor, something he remedy shortly there after when he was able to absorb it and redirect it.

What's worse, even if that was him trying to avoid (which it unquestionably is not) but let's assume it is. Lets do a quick count of the times he's failed to avoid a 2 second attack and the times he's successfully avoided a two second or shorter attack. You're saying the evidence is on your side, when it's EXPONENTIALLY on my side. All I need to do is point to his fights with Dooku, Sids, Clone Wars, Droids etc etc and EVERY TIME THEY SWING THEIR SABER AT YODA.. It takes far less than two seconds. Guess what, I'll show him flipping and dodging them OVER AND OVER. So the evidence is totally on my side. If you disagree, and think he's failed at it more, than let's go....

Name me the times he's failed to avoid a 2 second attack... and I'll count the times he has. You already know how this will turn out so you'll avoid it. Which will just mean another concession that indeed Yoda has far more times avoiding 2 second stacks than being struck by them.

That is using an ability so it doesn't hit him because when it did it ko'd him. 😂

Yoda came there for a fight. Sidious warned him and two seconds wasn't enough to block, use tutaminis, etc. in that instance. Undeniable.

We see that Yoda was still sent careening off the pod so despite your crying about him not being ready. Even when he was ready fl is too powerful for him to ward off either way. He can't send back that phaser cannon. Yoda dies.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is avoiding the attack. If surfer is shooting energy at Thanos and he overpowers his energy blasts with his own that is avoiding it. If he lets it hit his skin and doesn't use any abilities that is tanking it.

That is using an ability so it doesn't hit him because when it did it ko'd him. 😂

Yoda came there for a fight. Sidious warned him and two seconds wasn't enough to block, use tutaminis, etc. in that instance. Undeniable.

We see that Yoda was still sent careening off the pod so despite your crying about him not being ready. Even when he was ready fl is too powerful for him to ward off either way. He can't send back that phaser cannon. Yoda dies.

Again you avoided the question...

Which has Yoda done more:

1. Been hit by an attack that took 2 seconds or less
2. Avoided attacks that took 2 seconds or less

So which is it, you said the facts are on your side, when they are unquestionably on my side. Thus I'm challenging you to name the times yoda was unable to avoid a two second attack and I'll list the times he has been able to do it. We shall see who has the evidence on their side.

Further, it's HITTING him when he's trying to absorb. As your example of thanos states.. if it hits his screen he's trying to tank it. The lighting unquestionable HIT Yoda, and even when he's trying to absorb it and redirect it.. it's STILL touching his skin. In either case it's touching him. You've just crushed your own argument. At no point did yoda try and avoid the attack. In fact, he did the opposite of trying to dodge it... it stood right there and tried to absorb it... he just failed at doing so.

Now accept my challenge or this will be another concession from you

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Again you avoided the question...

Which has Yoda done more:

1. Been hit by an attack that took 2 seconds or less
2. Avoided attacks that took 2 seconds or less

So which is it, you said the facts are on your side, when they are unquestionably on my side. Thus I'm challenging you to name the times yoda was unable to avoid a two second attack and I'll list the times he has been able to do it. We shall see who has the evidence on their side.

Further, it's HITTING him when he's trying to absorb. As your example of thanos states.. if it hits his screen he's trying to tank it. The lighting unquestionable HIT Yoda, and even when he's trying to absorb it and redirect it.. it's STILL touching his skin. In either case it's touching him. You've just crushed your own argument. At no point did yoda try and avoid the attack. In fact, he did the opposite of trying to dodge it... it stood right there and tried to absorb it... he just failed at doing so.

Now accept my challenge or this will be another concession from you

Facts, he was hit by fl the first time. The second time it disarmed him and he couldn't handle the energy. He used an ability to redirect it. When he doesn't use that abilit he goes night night. It's very easy to sift through your bullshit, horse face. One is an ability and the other isn't.

Khan kills him with one shot.

There is no speculation.. I have facts showing Yoda avoiding 2 second attacks. I can name and SHOW numerous instances of him doing so. So are you backing away from my challenge then?

It's still touching him.. even when he's trying to absorb it.. it's still touching him. You crushed your own theory of if it touches him he's trying to tank it or absorb it. That is what YOU said. Thus, being that he tried to absorb it, and absorbing means it touches you, then he questionably DIDN'T try and avoid it. In fact, he did the opposite of try and avoid it, he stood right there to let it hit him.

Damn, it's so easy destroying your arguments. Everybody who reads this is laughing at you and how easy this was. Game set match if you don't accept my challenge or concede he wasn't actually trying to avoid it.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
There is no speculation.. I have facts showing Yoda avoiding 2 second attacks. I can name and SHOW numerous instances of him doing so. So are you backing away from my challenge then?

It's still touching him.. even when he's trying to absorb it.. it's still touching him. You crushed your own theory of if it touches him he's trying to tank it or absorb it. That is what YOU said. Thus, being that he tried to absorb it, and absorbing means it touches you, then he questionably DIDN'T try and avoid it. In fact, he did the opposite of try and avoid it, he stood right there to let it hit him.

Damn, it's so easy destroying your arguments. Everybody who reads this is laughing at you and how easy this was. Game set match if you don't accept my challenge or concede he wasn't actually trying to avoid it.

He uses an ability to redirect the force. My stance hasn't changed. Yours has. He was ko'd without an ability.

You are an emotional mess. Khan wins with a shot.

So you backed down from my challenge then... All you need to do is show the instances of Yoda failing to avoid 2 second attacks and I'll list the times he has. That isn't speculation that is YOU BACKING UP YOUR CASE. So stated the facts support your stance, well then prove it. Citing one time he didn't try and avoid an attack aren't the facts being on your side. In order to make that claim, you'd have to have more instances of him failing to avoid them than I would have of him successfully avoiding them. Let's see who has more and who has the facts on their side. You have avoided this challenge 2 times now, so I accept your concession that Yoda has avoided them more than been hit by them.

Your stance has absolutely changed, you said if it touches their skin then they are trying to tank it or absorb it. Those were your words. Well, we see yoda TRY and absorb the attack..thus it hit his skin... Thus by your own standards he didn't try and avoid it. Which of course it true. We can easily see he didn't try and dodge the attack, in fact, he stood right there trying to absorb it. He just failed to do so. However, you haven't named one, not one instance where Yoda has failed at avoiding a 2 second attack he tried to avoid.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So you backed down from my challenge then... All you need to do is show the instances of Yoda failing to avoid 2 second attacks and I'll list the times he has. That isn't speculation that is YOU BACKING UP YOUR CASE. So stated the facts support your stance, well then prove it. Citing one time he didn't try and avoid an attack aren't the facts being on your side. In order to make that claim, you'd have to have more instances of him failing to avoid them than I would have of him successfully avoiding them. Let's see who has more and who has the facts on their side. You have avoided this challenge 2 times now, so I accept your concession that Yoda has avoided them more than been hit by them.

Your stance has absolutely changed, you said if it touches their skin then they are trying to tank it or absorb it. Those were your words. Well, we see yoda TRY and absorb the attack..thus it hit his skin... Thus by your own standards he didn't try and avoid it. Which of course it true. We can easily see he didn't try and dodge the attack, in fact, he stood right there trying to absorb it. He just failed to do so. However, you haven't named one, not one instance where Yoda has failed at avoiding a 2 second attack he tried to avoid.

I said without using their abilities and it touching your skin. I said this multiple times your inability to understand the English language or have the attention span to finish a sentence is your own axe to grind.

As it stands Khan wins. He can't even use his abilities to beat fl let alone the phaser cannon. Yoda dies.

Yep. KT is crushing Quanchi's balls right now.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I showed an example. He also couldn't avoid the effects of the second fl attack though he did try. We also saw Yoda in the scope of enemy droids for around three seconds which is greater than two.

I said without using their abilities and it touching your skin. I said this multiple times your inability to understand the English language or have the attention span to finish a sentence is your own axe to grind.

As it stands Khan wins. He can't even use his abilities to beat fl let alone the phaser cannon. Yoda dies.

So none then. So the evidence lies squarely on my side. I could cite vastly more examples merely using his fights with Dooku and Sids than you named here. Even the ones you names here aren't even examples of it. Which makes this even more lopsided. The characters fight to the best of their abilities. Since Yoda has dodged 2 seconds or less attacks vastly more times than he's failed... He can avoid them. Easily.

What's worse, he doesn't even need to dodge... block.. absorb a shot that will never happen. Yoda will get off first, and either TK or TP Khan before he can even fire. After that, it's game over. So he doesn't even need to dodge a thing. However, let's say he does... well... he'll dodge one shot and react with his own and win from there. Once Yoda gets a hold of him.. he has zero chance of winning. Fact.

Yoda wins even easier than the poll suggest.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yep. KT is crushing Quanchi's balls right now.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So none then. So the evidence lies squarely on my side. I could cite vastly more examples merely using his fights with Dooku and Sids than you named here. Even the ones you names here aren't even examples of it. Which makes this even more lopsided. The characters fight to the best of their abilities. Since Yoda has dodged 2 seconds or less attacks vastly more times than he's failed... He can avoid them. Easily.

What's worse, he doesn't even need to dodge... block.. absorb a shot that will never happen. Yoda will get off first, and either TK or TP Khan before he can even fire. After that, it's game over. So he doesn't even need to dodge a thing. However, let's say he does... well... he'll dodge one shot and react with his own and win from there. Once Yoda gets a hold of him.. he has zero chance of winning. Fact.

Yoda wins even easier than the poll suggest.

Yoda didn't attack first against Palpatine. Proof is in the pudding. Two seconds wasn't long enough for Yoda to attack first. Khan wins.

Not only have you cited improper examples, but the ones you have listed FAIL miserably when stacked up to the showings I have. Thus, you can no longer say the proof is on your side when it comes to Yoda not being able to avoid a 2 second attack. In fact, the evidence is SQUARELY on my side. I have vastly more incidents where he's successfully avoided such attacks. So that evidence has been completely blown out of the water.

So what we are left with is... Yoda will react and react faster. He wins with the utmost ease, in fact, it's easier than the poll even suggests

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Not only have you cited improper examples, but the ones you have listed FAIL miserably when stacked up to the showings I have. Thus, you can no longer say the proof is on your side when it comes to Yoda not being able to avoid a 2 second attack. In fact, the evidence is SQUARELY on my side. I have vastly more incidents where he's successfully avoided such attacks. So that evidence has been completely blown out of the water.

So what we are left with is... Yoda will react and react faster. He wins with the utmost ease, in fact, it's easier than the poll even suggests

Yoda needed help against fodder. Yoda stated the clones would know when to help him. Yoda failed against a peer. Yoda didn't even defeat Dooku who was less than he was. Who did he defeat that impressed you ?

Khan shoots him dead in less than a second when we have seen him taken out by a pre warned two second attack.

You keep listing incidents where he didn't try and avoid anything. I've already crushed the 2 second theory. If you prefer we can do a battlezone or get a mod ruling on whether Yoda has failed or be successful more at avoiding 2 second attacks. You can list all you have... and we'll see who has more. Do you accept? If you don't, then I'll accept your concession that Yoda in fact has more showings of him dodging them... than not doing so. All I need to have is more showings than you.. which I clearly and without question do. Which will prove he's more likely to dodge 2 second attacks than to be hit by them. Thus, being that they fight to the best of their ability... Yoda does indeed dodge 2 second or quicker attacks

Khan won't even get off a single shot. He'll be TP'd or TK'd as soon as the fight starts.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You keep listing incidents where he didn't try and avoid anything. I've already crushed the 2 second theory. If you prefer we can do a battlezone or get a mod ruling on whether Yoda has failed or be successful more at avoiding 2 second attacks. You can list all you have... and we'll see who has more. Do you accept? If you don't, then I'll accept your concession that Yoda in fact has more showings of him dodging them... than not doing so. All I need to have is more showings than you.. which I clearly and without question do. Which will prove he's more likely to dodge 2 second attacks than to be hit by them. Thus, being that they fight to the best of their ability... Yoda does indeed dodge 2 second or quicker attacks

Khan won't even get off a single shot. He'll be TP'd or TK'd as soon as the fight starts.

I already thoroughly crushed you, loser. I've already done two Khan battlezones and don't fancy wasting my time around someone retarded such as yourself over a topic we already debated.

Khan wins. In well less than two seconds. 😂

I accept your concession and cowardice. Yoda easily wins.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I accept your concession and cowardice. Yoda easily wins.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I accept your concession and cowardice. Yoda easily wins.