Originally posted by quanchi112
It is t canon. I've always said that. It isn't highest level so no good.
Yeah so it's Canon to Leeland Chee. End of Story. And since this is the "movie vs" forum it counts as The Clone War animated movie was a movie.
So it's Canon to Chee. Its Canon to Lucas. And it's Canon to this forum. It's basically Canon to everyone except you. But you don't count so Good Day Mate. You lose.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERThey are just t not g canon. Not fair game. Sorry, bout your luck.
Yeah so it's Canon to Leeland Chee. End of Story. And since this is the "movie vs" forum it counts as The Clone War animated movie was a movie.So it's Canon to Chee. Its Canon to Lucas. And it's Canon to this forum. It's basically Canon to everyone except you. But you don't count so Good Day Mate. You lose.
Originally posted by The ScenarioHe has the same powers but showed no resistance to the attack.
He obviously has resistance, did you watch the movie?When did Khan fire a weapon while being held by TK?
You're the one who wanted this to be in character. Khan is portrayed to always open with the smaller gun, so he'd never get a chance to use the other.
You said firing a weapon while in mid air. He's done that already.
Yes, he can but then he can use the big one while Yoda is trying to block the smaller one.
Originally posted by Stealth MooseSidious showed no resistance he just took the attack. Khan can fire his gun or just tank the attack which can't even ko the elderly.
Yoda chucked a Darth across a room with a gesture and that guy can actually defend or mitigate TK. Khan can't. So I'm not sure how you can argue Khan will do anything deadly when he's head over heels on the ground.With precog and lightning reflexes, Yoda can dodge the shots and TK him when the moment arises. You haven't proven that Khan can hit anything faster than a near-stationary Klingon, and even then he misses.
He's never really dodged lasers he has blocked them. Palpatine ko'd him with a really drawn out laser blast.
Khan hit multiple Klingons all moving in different directions as well as firing their guns at him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You already conceded.
You already had this delusion, and it was debunked thoroughly. Now your back to using your old "concession accepted" schtick because you have no other avenue to even attempt to debate with.
When will you grow up, learn, and be told? I don't care about your "must have last word" mentality that you have maintained for the past 15 months, but you have been warned repatedly about your rotten attitude towards debates, which in your own mind is merely you saying whatever you please and everyone else much be wrong. Thats not debating, thats you trying to win your own pissing contest. For this reason, perhaps I should re-summon Ush to put you down permanently.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He has the same powers but showed no resistance to the attack.
He wasn't KO'd when other character's were. That means he resisted it, Master.
You said firing a weapon while in mid air. He's done that already.
Original question:
Prove Khan can fire while he's being held in mid air.
So are you going to prove that?
Yes, he can but then he can use the big one while Yoda is trying to block the smaller one.
But Master, can Khan dodge his own rapid fire shots while trying to aim the more powerful gun? I don't think he can.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroControl yourself. Khan wins.
You already had this delusion, and it was debunked thoroughly. Now your back to using your old "concession accepted" schtick because you have no other avenue to even attempt to debate with.When will you grow up, learn, and be told? I don't care about your "must have last word" mentality that you have maintained for the past 15 months, but you have been warned repatedly about your rotten attitude towards debates, which in your own mind is merely you saying whatever you please and everyone else much be wrong. Thats not debating, thats you trying to win your own pissing contest. For this reason, perhaps I should re-summon Ush to put you down permanently.
Originally posted by The ScenarioDue to not being thrown into a wall right next to him. It was different.
He wasn't KO'd when other character's were. That means he resisted it, Master.Original question:
So are you going to prove that?
But Master, can Khan dodge his own rapid fire shots while trying to aim the more powerful gun? I don't think he can.
I already have proven it.
Yes, he can. Watch the scene and see how incredibly skilled as well as athletic he is in that scene.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Sidious showed no resistance he just took the attack. Khan can fire his gun or just tank the attack which can't even ko the elderly.He's never really dodged lasers he has blocked them. Palpatine ko'd him with a really drawn out laser blast.
Khan hit multiple Klingons all moving in different directions as well as firing their guns at him.
1. Sidious is a super human Force user. As we see in the series many times, Force users have incredibly durability. This is why we see Obi-Wan absorb punishment that would kill a normal man and wake up fine moments later, or Anakin leap from a racing speeder onto a droid many many stories below without breaking his legs from impact. Or why they fight in the arena of Mustafar without burning to death. He's not a puny old man in any combat sense, showing superhuman speed, durability, and reflexes.
2. Khan can't tank TK, I don't know where you got this idea from. Yoda can chuck things the size of cars at people, indicating his strength in the Force is somewhere between mighty forklift and Hercules, depending on your perspective.
3. Palpatine didn't use a blaster bolt. I don't know what you're smoking. He used Force lightning, which requires Force knowledge and technique to block. One of Yoda's hands was occupied and he was unable to block the attack. Later on, he blocks a bigger, more sustained version of the same thing from melee range with his bare hands.
4. Khan loses.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Due to not being thrown into a wall right next to him. It was different.
Master, why are you avoiding me in other threads? Am I not good enough for you anymore? You're even seeing other posters...
But any, Yoda can throw Khan into a wall, so why is there a problem? Whenever Yoda threw someone into a close wall they were KO'd, right?
I already have proven it.
I've been watching you, and you never did that. Are you lying to me now, Master?
Yes, he can. Watch the scene and see how incredibly skilled as well as athletic he is in that scene.
That doesn't prove he can dodge his own reflected shots. Did he even doge any shots? I don't recall him dodging Uhura. Really, you're putting Khan on such a pedestal I'm starting to wonder if you're his slave.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERIt isn't the highest level of canon. That is the only level I accept. Lucas also sold the rights. Earth to nerd.
Since when?Oh, since you made that up 👇
T-Canon is accepted by both Lucas and Lee. And since there's a CW movie as well, it's accepted by these boards. So quit the trolling please.
Originally posted by The ScenarioServant, what threads am I avoiding you in ?
Master, why are you avoiding me in other threads? Am I not good enough for you anymore? You're even seeing other posters...But any, Yoda can throw Khan into a wall, so why is there a problem? Whenever Yoda threw someone into a close wall they were KO'd, right?
I've been watching you, and you never did that. Are you lying to me now, Master?
That doesn't prove he can dodge his own reflected shots. Did he even doge any shots? I don't recall him dodging Uhura. Really, you're putting Khan on such a pedestal I'm starting to wonder if you're his slave.
He can only toss characters into walls right next to walls. These featless henchmen also were featless unlike Khan.
He blows the people away before they shoot him. Uhura shot him when he was engaging Spock in hand to hand minus any weaponry. The circumstances are different here.
Yoda also has been disarmed. Khan destroys the butterfingers.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose1. We see any skilled character do so in the Star Wars series. It isn't just the Jedi or Sith. Jango Fett handled Obi just fine in fisticuffs. Palpatine is a frail older gentleman who has force powers. That's all.
1. Sidious is a super human Force user. As we see in the series many times, Force users have incredibly durability. This is why we see Obi-Wan absorb punishment that would kill a normal man and wake up fine moments later, or Anakin leap from a racing speeder onto a droid many many stories below without breaking his legs from impact. Or why they fight in the arena of Mustafar without burning to death. He's not a puny old man in any combat sense, showing superhuman speed, durability, and reflexes.2. Khan can't tank TK, I don't know where you got this idea from. Yoda can chuck things the size of cars at people, indicating his strength in the Force is somewhere between mighty forklift and Hercules, depending on your perspective.
3. Palpatine didn't use a blaster bolt. I don't know what you're smoking. He used Force lightning, which requires Force knowledge and technique to block. One of Yoda's hands was occupied and he was unable to block the attack. Later on, he blocks a bigger, more sustained version of the same thing from melee range with his bare hands.
4. Khan loses.
2. Khan can dodge or blast the objects he tosses or tank the pushing force it can muster. It didn't even ko an elder gentleman.
3. Windu blocked it. Yoda did not. The blast also lacked the power of Khan's weaponry as Luke withstood it for many seconds without any long term damage after.
4. Khan wins, definitively.
Originally posted by quanchi112
1. We see any skilled character do so in the Star Wars series. It isn't just the Jedi or Sith. Jango Fett handled Obi just fine in fisticuffs. Palpatine is a frail older gentleman who has force powers. That's all.
No, he's not. As I demonstrated and as you've attempted to ignore (because it hurts your bias), Force users have above human durability. We could never survive falls from cliff edges like Anakin does in AotC, and by all accounts Sidious' master of the Force is far superior. Yoda as well.
If you're going to insist on being obtuse, Khan gets KO'd by a stun blast. Yoda's higher level TK > stun blast.
2. Khan can dodge or blast the objects he tosses or tank the pushing force it can muster. It didn't even ko an elder gentleman.
At no point in the film did he dodge anything faster than Yoda can move. In fact, he remained largely in the same place fighting the klingon mooks of no value whatsoever, and did not outmaneuver anyone in the film through sheer agility or dexterity. You might be able to better interpret the movie with your head out of your ass next time.
3. Windu blocked it. Yoda did not. The blast also lacked the power of Khan's weaponry as Luke withstood it for many seconds without any long term damage after.
Derp. There are various kinds of lightning. Windu struggled with a weaker version of lightning that later on Yoda absorbed and repelled with his bare hands again, at melee range. Go watch the movie again, preferably when you come up from air from Rectumland.
4. Khan wins, definitively.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Servant, what threads am I avoiding you in ?
Oh, you came back! I'm sorry for doubting you; I should be punished...
He can only toss characters into walls right next to walls. These featless henchmen also were featless unlike Khan.
That's a weird statement to make. He's KO'd clones with just pushes, no wall necessary, and they have armor. I don't think Khan's feats are good enough to take this, Master.
He blows the people away before they shoot him. Uhura shot him when he was engaging Spock in hand to hand minus any weaponry. The circumstances are different here.
Which means he's never dodged any shots. Thank you, Master!
Yoda also has been disarmed. Khan destroys the butterfingers.
Not by a gun, though. Is Khan going to try to melee Yoda?