Khan Noonien Singh vs. Yoda

Originally posted by quanchi112
It isn't the highest level of canon.

Yeah it's 2nd highest. Oh no, Big Frigging Deal! And actually fits into the definition of G-Canon anyway (the movies, anything Lucas says). Fact is it's part of the Movie universe. In fact TCW movie is a frigging SW movie Dumb ASS LOL.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is the only level I accept.

There's your problem right there. Your not an authority on squat. You've got no right or authority to declare a whole series and a whole frigging movie as non canon to the live action Movie Universe.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Lucas also sold the rights. Earth to nerd.

LOL @ you quoting G-CANON which stands for GEORGE LUCAS CANON, and then harping on about Lucas not being an authority.

I think we can ALL SEE WHO THE TRUE RETARD IS HERE.

And for the record, it's ALL CANON to Leeland Chee. The levels of canon are only to deal with inconsistencies or contradictions that come up. But there actually are no inconsistencies or contradictions between TCW and the Movies.

Quan you were really being stupid here.. I mean really stupid.. Yoda wins with ease.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
No, he's not. As I demonstrated and as you've attempted to ignore (because it hurts your bias), Force users have above human durability. We could never survive falls from cliff edges like Anakin does in AotC, and by all accounts Sidious' master of the Force is far superior. Yoda as well.

If you're going to insist on being obtuse, Khan gets KO'd by a stun blast. Yoda's higher level TK > stun blast.

At no point in the film did he dodge anything faster than Yoda can move. In fact, he remained largely in the same place fighting the klingon mooks of no value whatsoever, and did not outmaneuver anyone in the film through sheer agility or dexterity. You might be able to better interpret the movie with your head out of your ass next time.

Derp. There are various kinds of lightning. Windu struggled with a weaker version of lightning that later on Yoda absorbed and repelled with his bare hands again, at melee range. Go watch the movie again, preferably when you come up from air from Rectumland.

Khan resisted 8 stun blasts. Try again.

The Klingons had defeated the Enterprise crew which consisted of Spock prior to his involvement. That's pretty darn good considering Khan decimated their forces singlehandedly according to Kirk. Yoda needed aid against a much smaller clone crew in the form of another Jedi.

Yoda got sent back so he couldn't resist it entirely. Windu won his fight whereas Yoda failed.

Yoda fails again.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Oh, you came back! I'm sorry for doubting you; I should be punished...

That's a weird statement to make. He's KO'd clones with just pushes, no wall necessary, and they have armor. I don't think Khan's feats are good enough to take this, Master.

Which means he's never dodged any shots. Thank you, Master!

Not by a gun, though. Is Khan going to try to melee Yoda?

Khan shoots to kill and. Yoda hasn't dodged any blasts either.

Khan guns him down. It won't matter.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Yeah it's 2nd highest. Oh no, Big Frigging Deal! And actually fits into the definition of G-Canon anyway (the movies, anything Lucas says). Fact is it's part of the Movie universe. In fact TCW movie is a frigging SW movie Dumb ASS LOL.

There's your problem right there. Your not an authority on squat. You've got no right or authority to declare a whole series and a whole frigging movie as non canon to the live action Movie Universe.

LOL @ you quoting G-CANON which stands for GEORGE LUCAS CANON, and then harping on about Lucas not being an authority.

I think we can ALL SEE WHO THE TRUE RETARD IS HERE.

And for the record, it's ALL CANON to Leeland Chee. The levels of canon are only to deal with inconsistencies or contradictions that come up. But there actually are no inconsistencies or contradictions between TCW and the Movies.

It isn't g canon so cannot be used. Relax.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Quan you were really being stupid here.. I mean really stupid.. Yoda wins with ease.

Originally posted by quanchi112
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Originally posted by quanchi112

It isn't g canon so cannot be used.

Says who?

It's canon, and part of a shared universe with the films. Your the only one who doesn't get that.

It's easy man because of how superior Yoda is in virtually every way....

He can easily mindrape Kahn and make him do whatever he wants. Even if you exclude EU material.. there is still a documented history of mindrape by people far inferior in the force than Yoda. So why on earth would Yoda not be able to do the same.. he would. Thus, show me Kahn resisting TP

Next we have him just throwing Kahn around like a ragdoll.. He's thrown around Palps with ease... Thrown back a senate pod against gravity and Palps TK sending it at him... Stop a ceiling from falling on him.. Stopped a HUGE pillar from falling on Kenobi and Anakin. Finally lifted up an x-wing from a swamp and moved it to dry land. What does all this mean.. He will be able to throw around Kahn with absolute ease.

We've talking about somebody with Pre-Cog here.. somebody that will knew what Kahn has planned or going to shoot... we're talking about somebody faster than Kahn.. thus he'll be able to react to anything Kahn does. he's avoided blaster fire before as we've seen when the executive order to kill the jedi first came down. We've seen Jinn... Anakin.. Obi.. mace and numerous other jedi during the whole gladiator style stadium fight where people WELL below yoda were blocking blaster fire from droids... If they can do yoda would do it with EASE. So Kahn isn't just going to blast yoda.

There is pretty much nothing Kahn could do to beat Yoda. like nothing.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It's easy man because of how superior Yoda is in virtually every way....

He can easily mindrape Kahn and make him do whatever he wants. Even if you exclude EU material.. there is still a documented history of mindrape by people far inferior in the force than Yoda. So why on earth would Yoda not be able to do the same.. he would. Thus, show me Kahn resisting TP

Next we have him just throwing Kahn around like a ragdoll.. He's thrown around Palps with ease... Thrown back a senate pod against gravity and Palps TK sending it at him... Stop a ceiling from falling on him.. Stopped a HUGE pillar from falling on Kenobi and Anakin. Finally lifted up an x-wing from a swamp and moved it to dry land. What does all this mean.. He will be able to throw around Kahn with absolute ease.

We've talking about somebody with Pre-Cog here.. somebody that will knew what Kahn has planned or going to shoot... we're talking about somebody faster than Kahn.. thus he'll be able to react to anything Kahn does. he's avoided blaster fire before as we've seen when the executive order to kill the jedi first came down. We've seen Jinn... Anakin.. Obi.. mace and numerous other jedi during the whole gladiator style stadium fight where people WELL below yoda were blocking blaster fire from droids... If they can do yoda would do it with EASE. So Kahn isn't just going to blast yoda.

There is pretty much nothing Kahn could do to beat Yoda. like nothing.

Khanchi112 never relents. He embodies the Soviet ideal soldier: "Not one step back".

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It's easy man because of how superior Yoda is in virtually every way....

He can easily mindrape Kahn and make him do whatever he wants. Even if you exclude EU material.. there is still a documented history of mindrape by people far inferior in the force than Yoda. So why on earth would Yoda not be able to do the same.. he would. Thus, show me Kahn resisting TP

Next we have him just throwing Kahn around like a ragdoll.. He's thrown around Palps with ease... Thrown back a senate pod against gravity and Palps TK sending it at him... Stop a ceiling from falling on him.. Stopped a HUGE pillar from falling on Kenobi and Anakin. Finally lifted up an x-wing from a swamp and moved it to dry land. What does all this mean.. He will be able to throw around Kahn with absolute ease.

We've talking about somebody with Pre-Cog here.. somebody that will knew what Kahn has planned or going to shoot... we're talking about somebody faster than Kahn.. thus he'll be able to react to anything Kahn does. he's avoided blaster fire before as we've seen when the executive order to kill the jedi first came down. We've seen Jinn... Anakin.. Obi.. mace and numerous other jedi during the whole gladiator style stadium fight where people WELL below yoda were blocking blaster fire from droids... If they can do yoda would do it with EASE. So Kahn isn't just going to blast yoda.

There is pretty much nothing Kahn could do to beat Yoda. like nothing.

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Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Khanchi112 never relents. He embodies the Soviet ideal soldier: "Not one step back".

LOL... I lol'd at work... is that bad?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Quan you were really being stupid here.. I mean really stupid.. Yoda wins with ease.

IOW, quan is being quan.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
LOL... I lol'd at work... is that bad?

You'd have better luck squeezing blood out of a stone.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Says who?

It's canon, and part of a shared universe with the films. Your the only one who doesn't get that.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
LOL... I lol'd at work... is that bad?

Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't a retort so concession accepted.

A retort to what? All you have ever done is spew more and more garbage that you can't back up at all, so if your seeking a concession for that, then by all means. But if you ever plan on winning this 4 month old debate in which you have showcased how much of a gibbering idiot you are, then no, and back it up this time with legit evidence and not your goalpost shifting bullshit standards.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
A retort to what? All you have ever done is spew more and more garbage that you can't back up at all, so if your seeking a concession for that, then by all means. But if you ever plan on winning this 4 month old debate in which you have showcased how much of a gibbering idiot you are, then no, and back it up this time with legit evidence and not your goalpost shifting bullshit standards.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again, the same old song and dance. Quit insulting and actually debate. Khan guns him down based off his feats and the manner in which Yoda fights in the films.

That's probably because your MO has not changed in 3 years since you first went up against me Quan. Not once ever have you posted a shred of evidence in any measurable fashion in any debate you have ever had that I have born witness to. You insult, you flame, you troll, and you ignore valid points from the opposition, deciding instead to cherrypick anything you can that you can twist to suit your own interpretation. You've done it in this thread dozens of times, and hundreds ore in intermitted threads al through KMC.

Now, as for this debate, my stance has not changed, Khan has no defence against the Force and it's various abilities. He is not as strong, nor as agile or as fast as Yoda, Yoda does not have to physically touch Khan to hurt him,/throw off his aim,/ or immobilise, his weapons can be deflected by the saber, and last but not least, Khan has no way to counter the lightsaber in close combat.