Originally posted by carver9
H1, Superman was amped when he punched Lobo out of orbit.
As explained in Superman 0, when parasite drained superman of his excessive power he was back to the power level before his powers went in overdrive.
So no amps for later superman who got several amps after that "amp".
Originally posted by h1a8I use sarcasm because the hammer is blatantly obvious. If you can't see the large object in the picture, then you deserve to be ridiculed. My sarcasm is not the reason you didn't see the hammer.
I see the hammer now. Thanks. Didn't see it at first.
You're dropping it because there's no cohesion at all between the two.
The shield he dropped on Thanos was vastly more powerful than the one Gladiator broke. As evidenced by heroes just as powerful as Gladiator failing to break it by doing more than flexing. And evidenced by there being at least four trying to break it at the same time.
If it doesn't help your case, then why would you bring it up? Oh right, to try and make Quasar look less impressive, so Thanos' feat looks less impressive. And we naturally ignore the characters failing to break it because they didn't attack in "unison" or some bullshit excuse that you're presenting as a fact.
Originally posted by h1a8Because surprisingly, there's no one on Marvel's side on this forum anymore that consistently makes random shit up about their characters in their favor.
Yet you don't show the same vigilance towards discrediting a Marvel feat. You just remain silent about it. This is bias when you choose this way. It's not just me but any D.C. fan you do this to.
And there's you and one other for DC (and to shit on Marvel). And it's a lot of bullshit. Like a lot for two people. Impressive really.
Originally posted by h1a8
I concede here.You never known me to blatantly lie
Which is why it's entirely the color of Thanos' blast, with no hint of Warlock's.
Because you like to troll.
I've never seen you blatantly lie? You're the guy who thinks he can punch twice as fast as the fastest punch on the planet.
You're the biggest liar/troll on the forum. Sorry if I don't give you the benefit of the doubt when you fail to see a rather large hammer that's as long as half of Hulk when it's right beside Hulk in a scan.
Originally posted by h1a8
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So it's not in the same general area? OK... a couple feet at best isn't in the same general area. Great logic.
Why would Thor's hammer have had to hit before? You realize it travels way faster than everyone else. Thor's hammer would have bounced back right away while everyone is still in hitting motion.
Are you implying they have to hit at the same microsecond for their to be attacking a shield at the same time effective? Can you stop making shit up?
Even if you think Thor's attack didn't hit at the same time, which it did, the power used against it was still more than Superman, and still more than Gladiator flexing.
This is also assuming that those were the only attacks thrown. Which means they rested after every attack and waited for the next panel of them being shown.
Originally posted by h1a8Superman at that time was not, and it's irrelevant since you just said he's not stronger than both.
So Hulk and Hercules hit at the same time. So Thanos basically did something both Hulk and Hercules couldn't do together. Impressive. But Superman is stronger than either but not necessarily both at the same time.
You're also ignoring Thor and the tons of other heroes. But I'll take your concession that Thanos' feat is more impressive than Darkseid's.
Originally posted by h1a8Irrelevant, since every one of Warlock's attacks are green.
But wait! Almost everyone's hits has the same pink and white color as Thanos blast. Now do you see that the color of the blast is not an indication of Thanos but rather the artist style for showing great impact on the shield?
Also, they weren't blasting.
Originally posted by h1a8Thanos prior could have taken the same thing... yet you think DD is more durable, Darkseid would kill him in one shot, and HP Superman would cause "more than a scratch".
That doesn't prove anything. Thanos prior could have taken the same thing IMO. I discussed this with you already. I don't believe Magus was trying to kill Thanos at all. The writer clearly shows Thanos is being fed knowledge. This is how I interpret it and believe it was meant to be interpreted.
So Thanos eats all of his clone, becomes whole, gains more than knowledge, and he gained no power at all?
Where did all the power of the clone go? Did it dissipate in a burp or something?
Originally posted by h1a8You proved absolutely nothing. Show a scan stating the difference between the Omega Effect and Omega Beams if you proved it.
I did prove it.
It's because you're assuming that because they're different, that the effect is vastly more powerful. Which you failed to prove.
Originally posted by h1a8Or why hasn't Darkseid ever erased anyone anywhere near as durable as Thanos?
Comics are stupid at times.
Then why didn't he disintegrate either? Why in the absolute most important showing of the OB's has he not erased his foes?
Because either way, it looks terrible.
Originally posted by h1a8Then why again hasn't Darkseid erased anyone anywhere near as durable as Thanos?
I'm sticking to what I said though. Durability doesn't protect you from being erased no more than it protects you from being teleported. Durability protects you from being damaged.
Can you even name one person who Darkseid has "erased"?
Originally posted by h1a8See, this is the part where you're trolling.
DD is more durable than Thanos in everyway. He has the feats.
I'm only using the Quasar feat to compare it to Darkseid's. And it's funny considering I've actually brought up feats from Thanos, and even Darkseid, while you can only state the missile feat, and "erasing". I'm just trying to get you to admit one feat is vastly better, yet you're making up random assumptions and presenting them as facts to why the Quasar feat isn't impressive.
lol at me ignoring Thanos' other feats. I forgot the part where I didn't bring up him facing Magus with the IG, tanking the Cosmic Cube, punching a hole through his equal clone and then turning him into a butterfly and eating him (even using your logic, he turned a regularly power Thanos into a butterfly and killed him), tanking attacks that disintegrated Magus, taking shots from Galactus level beings, etc.
Originally posted by h1a8You've literally conceded on quite a lot of points here, lot of nerve is all I'm saying.
When did Mary Marvel tank the OE? Are you getting help through private messages?
But let's do a test here since we're not dealing with hidden knowledge.
I'll Google search "Mary Marvel Omega Effect" and look at the images.
Third line on images. Thank God someone was giving me secret docs or I'd never be able to know that.
But I'd seriously suggest you start getting help through private messages since this is like the 10th thing you've been wrong on in so little posts.
Originally posted by h1a8How is that not lowballing? Following your example, you're trying to paint him as equals to Gladiator (which you've done numerous times) while just forgetting that Tyrant mopped the floor with him, and you've been proven wrong on that like a week earlier than when you said it.
I didnt lowball Tyrant.
I just said it was.
Originally posted by h1a8Doubt it. A pissed off Thor with the PG only managed to bloody his nose.
Don't mistake lying or trolling for stupidness or unintentional error.
Prove that.
You lie and troll all the god damned time. You probably argue against Thanos more than anyone in history ever, yet you conveniently forget everything about him at every turn.
You've already been proven wrong about Tyrant stalemating Gladiator before... like less than a week prior to this argument. Yet here you are, bringing it up. You present opinions as facts (which is why I just brought up Thor with the Power Gem, as you believe he was barely stronger) So many more examples can be brought up, but that would take a while.
Then there's the part where you believe the shield Thor/Hulk/Drax/Herc, and many other heroes can't break is just as powerful as the shield Gladiator broke by flexing.
You either have Alzheimer's, or you're lying and trolling all the time.
Originally posted by SquallXWrong. Thanos destroys any Darkseid.
Need to be as specific for team 2 as you are form team 1.Being more specific for Darkseid is the game changer here. Early Post era DS would slaughter Thanos. With mid Era going on either direction. Then we have the specific point DS. From Soul Fire to Final Crisis DS.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftIll condense this. You have to debate more efficiently. This is ridiculous.
I use sarcasm because the hammer is blatantly obvious. If you can't see the large object in the picture, then you deserve to be ridiculed. My sarcasm is not the reason you didn't see the hammer.You're dropping it because there's no cohesion at all between the two.
The shield he dropped on Thanos was vastly more powerful than the one Gladiator broke. As evidenced by heroes just as powerful as Gladiator failing to break it by doing more than flexing. And evidenced by there being at least four trying to break it at the same time.If it doesn't help your case, then why would you bring it up? Oh right, to try and make Quasar look less impressive, so Thanos' feat looks less impressive. And we naturally ignore the characters failing to break it because they didn't attack in "unison" or some bullshit excuse that you're presenting as a fact.
Because surprisingly, there's no one on Marvel's side on this forum anymore that consistently makes random shit up about their characters in their favor.
And there's you and one other for DC (and to shit on Marvel). And it's a lot of bullshit. Like a lot for two people. Impressive really.
Which is why it's entirely the color of Thanos' blast, with no hint of Warlock's.
Because you like to troll.
I've never seen you blatantly lie? You're the guy who thinks he can punch twice as fast as the fastest punch on the planet.
You're the biggest liar/troll on the forum. Sorry if I don't give you the benefit of the doubt when you fail to see a rather large hammer that's as long as half of Hulk when it's right beside Hulk in a scan.
So it's not in the same general area? OK... a couple feet at best isn't in the same general area. Great logic.
Why would Thor's hammer have had to hit before? You realize it travels way faster than everyone else. Thor's hammer would have bounced back right away while everyone is still in hitting motion.
Are you implying they have to hit at the same microsecond for their to be attacking a shield at the same time effective? Can you stop making shit up?
Even if you think Thor's attack didn't hit at the same time, which it did, the power used against it was still more than Superman, and still more than Gladiator flexing.
This is also assuming that those were the only attacks thrown. Which means they rested after every attack and waited for the next panel of them being shown.
Superman at that time was not, and it's irrelevant since you just said he's not stronger than both.
You're also ignoring Thor and the tons of other heroes. But I'll take your concession that Thanos' feat is more impressive than Darkseid's.
Irrelevant, since every one of Warlock's attacks are green.
Also, they weren't blasting.
Thanos prior could have taken the same thing... yet you think DD is more durable, Darkseid would kill him in one shot, and HP Superman would cause "more than a scratch".
Do you believe even yourself?So Thanos eats all of his clone, becomes whole, gains more than knowledge, and he gained no power at all?
Where did all the power of the clone go? Did it dissipate in a burp or something?
You proved absolutely nothing. Show a scan stating the difference between the Omega Effect and Omega Beams if you proved it.
It's because you're assuming that because they're different, that the effect is vastly more powerful. Which you failed to prove.
Or why hasn't Darkseid ever erased anyone anywhere near as durable as Thanos?
Then why didn't he disintegrate either? Why in the absolute most important showing of the OB's has he not erased his foes?
Because either way, it looks terrible.
Then why again hasn't Darkseid erased anyone anywhere near as durable as Thanos?
Can you even name one person who Darkseid has "erased"?
See, this is the part where you're trolling.
DD does not have the ****ing feats to be more durable. And you just admitted Thanos could probably take the IG punching him so I still don't get why you think their's a difference between blunt and energy feats in regards to Thanos.I'm only using the Quasar feat to compare it to Darkseid's. And it's funny considering I've actually brought up feats from Thanos, and even Darkseid, while you can only state the missile feat, and "erasing". I'm just trying to get you to admit one feat is vastly better, yet you're making up random assumptions and presenting them as facts to why the Quasar feat isn't impressive.
lol at me ignoring Thanos' other feats. I forgot the part where I didn't bring up him facing Magus with the IG, tanking the Cosmic Cube, punching a hole through his equal clone and then turning him into a butterfly and eating him (even using your logic, he turned a regularly power Thanos into a butterfly and killed him), tanking attacks that disintegrated Magus, taking shots from Galactus level beings, etc.
You've literally conceded on quite a lot of points here, lot of nerve is all I'm saying.
But let's do a test here since we're not dealing with hidden knowledge.
I'll Google search "Mary Marvel Omega Effect" and look at the images.
Third line on images. Thank God someone was giving me secret docs or I'd never be able to know that.
But I'd seriously suggest you start getting help through private messages since this is like the 10th thing you've been wrong on in so little posts.
How is that not lowballing? Following your example, you're trying to paint him as equals to Gladiator (which you've done numerous times) while just forgetting that Tyrant mopped the floor with him, and you've been proven wrong on that like a week earlier than when you said it.
There's also the part where Tyrant is irrelevant, and was just your hate of the week.I just said it was.
Doubt it. A pissed off Thor with the PG only managed to bloody his nose.
Prove that.
You've already been proven wrong about Tyrant stalemating Gladiator before... like less than a week prior to this argument. Yet here you are, bringing it up. You present opinions as facts (which is why I just brought up Thor with the Power Gem, as you believe he was barely stronger) So many more examples can be brought up, but that would take a while.
Then there's the part where you believe the shield Thor/Hulk/Drax/Herc, and many other heroes can't break is just as powerful as the shield Gladiator broke by flexing.
1. Your sarcasm sucks. It is confusing and not written well.
2. I was looking for Thor where the other characters are, not his hammer. I barely even looked above the force field. That's why I missed it.
3. I didn't say I can throw a jab, hook, straight, etc. punch 80mph. I said I can swing my hand that fast. I know this because I can throw a baseball that fast. So if I do the EXACT motion of a baseball throw to strike something then yes I can attack with my hand at 80mph or faster. It's impossible to throw a baseball 80mph by swinging your hand slower. So how am I a liar? I never lied once on this forum in my entire time here. Not ever!!!!
4. Ok so Mary deflected it with her hand. Is that dumb writing or legitimate? Take a pick.
5. It seems you don't understand sarcasm, and I used it correctly. I didn't lowball Tyrant since I was making a point that energy beams cancelling out doesn't make you equals. I said if they did then Glads and Tyrants are equals (they aren't).
6. Thor's hammer doesn't always move very fast when he throws it. This is comics dude. Nor is his average hammer throw is superior to a non holding back Superman's punch. Thor's hammer didn't land in the same area at all. A few feet away = not in the same area. Thor's hammer has to hit at the same time in order for the hit to stack. Otherwise the shield is good as new after the hit (since you said it didn't weaken). Failure to understand this =/= making shit up.
7. I disagree that an average Thor hammer throw is superior to a high end Gladiator flex.
8. The SAME colors use to illustrate physical hits proves that it's possible for warlock to have blasted. Otherwise, why did the writer use the exact same color scheme?
9. We also go on the intentions of the writer. DD is significantly more durable than Thanos in the blunt and cut force area and somewhat greater in the energy durability area.
10. DS never tried to erase nor teleport nor omega sanction but rather destroy in those couple of times it didn't work.
11. Magus with the IG didn't try to kill Thanos with the punch. So of course Thanos prior could have survived the same hit. Actually ALL high herald level beings could have survived that punch. It wasn't a good feat IMO. I literally spit on that so called feat.
12. Non of the feats you named is superior to DD tanking beams that, at half power, vaporized missiles that Superman couldn't damage in the slightest. But keep naming feats. Maybe you will come across one that's remotely close.
So that you take me seriously. Galactus level beings, cosmic cube beings, etc. don't on average vaporize shit that's astronomically more durable than Superman. Yes Galactus level beings can kill or one shot heralds but that is a drop of water compared to a lake of water.
13. PG Thor operated no more than 2x stronger than a non holding back Thor. Normal Thor has greater strength feats than that PG Thor did. Yet he busted Thanos face by not even landing a good hammer slam.
You disagree that DS can't erase Thanos
since
1. Durability affects ability to be erased
2. DS has no erasing powers but rather disintegrating powers
3. DS disintegrating power in a forum fight is less than what was shown against the missiles.
Am I right?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Wrong. Thanos destroys any Darkseid.
Shut up, shut up, shut up
The day Thanos can take down these version of Darkseid, come talk to me.
The Search for the Anti Life
TGDS Darkseid
Soul Fire
Final Crisis Darkseid
Hell any Pre-Crisis version of Darkseid would murder Thanos any time of the day.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusi would have been the counter to his negligence, and he knows it:
Lol, sometimes I wonder why we even keep Pr around (Aside from him doing my laundry that is).
Originally posted by Badabing
I think I nominated 7 people for the last mod opening. Newjak got the votes. And FYI, most of the posters I nominated are active in this thread most every day. The others are well known posters who have won and hosted tournaments.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
how many votes did i get? flirt
Originally posted by Badabing
Pr vetoed your name. 🙁 😛
i'm the mod you deserve biscuits
Originally posted by abhilegend
As explained in Superman 0, when parasite drained superman of his excessive power he was back to the power level before his powers went in overdrive.So no amps for later superman who got several amps after that "amp".
Per ABHI, we don't use statements made by writers. So I'm disregarding your scan bro.
Originally posted by SquallXYou are wrong. Thanos is immune to death and has resisted an entire universe directly opposed to his existence. Thanos wins.
Shut up, shut up, shut upThe day Thanos can take down these version of Darkseid, come talk to me.
The Search for the Anti Life
TGDS Darkseid
Soul Fire
Final Crisis Darkseid
Hell any Pre-Crisis version of Darkseid would murder Thanos any time of the day.
Originally posted by carver9
Per ABHI, we don't use statements made by writers. So I'm disregarding your scan bro.
Not sure when that was posted but if that's the same discussion, Abhil has already been convinced he was incorrect on ICT recently:
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,251455.40.html
Originally posted by SquallX
Shut up, shut up, shut upThe day Thanos can take down these version of Darkseid, come talk to me.
The Search for the Anti Life
TGDS Darkseid
Soul Fire
Final Crisis Darkseid
Hell any Pre-Crisis version of Darkseid would murder Thanos any time of the day.
You place TGDS DS above FC?
