Thanos, Gladiator & World Breaker Hulk Vs. Darkseid, Superman & Hunter/Prey Doomsday

Started by SquallX6 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
You are wrong. Thanos is immune to death and has resisted an entire universe directly opposed to his existence. Thanos wins.

You're stupidity knows no limit, or maybe you're just that big of a fanboy.

Did you know, you don't have to kill someone to beat them?

I'll play you're little game.

Spectre Hal Jordan killed Darkseid on panel, for Darkseid to be brought back and claims that a power far greater than Specter Jordan wants him around. Now, guess who commands the Spectre force?

Darkseid, was once removed from a timeline, and that time line was being destroyed because he was to important to the Multiverse.

So you fail. NEXT!

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not sure when that was posted but if that's the same discussion, Abhil has already been convinced he was incorrect on ICT recently:
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,251455.40.html

Wow, just wow...I feel bad for the guy. Thanks for the link.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ill condense this. You have to debate more efficiently. This is ridiculous.

1. Your sarcasm sucks. It is confusing and not written well.
2. I was looking for Thor where the other characters are, not his hammer. I barely even looked above the force field. That's why I missed it.
3. I didn't say I can throw a jab, hook, straight, etc. punch 80mph. I said I can swing my hand that fast. I know this because I can throw a baseball that fast. So if I do the EXACT motion of a baseball throw to strike something then yes I can attack with my hand at 80mph or faster. It's impossible to throw a baseball 80mph by swinging your hand slower. So how am I a liar? I never lied once on this forum in my entire time here. Not ever!!!!
4. Ok so Mary deflected it with her hand. Is that dumb writing or legitimate? Take a pick.
5. It seems you don't understand sarcasm, and I used it correctly. I didn't lowball Tyrant since I was making a point that energy beams cancelling out doesn't make you equals. I said if they did then Glads and Tyrants are equals (they aren't).
6. Thor's hammer doesn't always move very fast when he throws it. This is comics dude. Nor is his average hammer throw is superior to a non holding back Superman's punch. Thor's hammer didn't land in the same area at all. A few feet away = not in the same area. Thor's hammer has to hit at the same time in order for the hit to stack. Otherwise the shield is good as new after the hit (since you said it didn't weaken). Failure to understand this =/= making shit up.
7. I disagree that an average Thor hammer throw is superior to a high end Gladiator flex.
8. The SAME colors use to illustrate physical hits proves that it's possible for warlock to have blasted. Otherwise, why did the writer use the exact same color scheme?
9. We also go on the intentions of the writer. DD is significantly more durable than Thanos in the blunt and cut force area and somewhat greater in the energy durability area.
10. DS never tried to erase nor teleport nor omega sanction but rather destroy in those couple of times it didn't work.
11. Magus with the IG didn't try to kill Thanos with the punch. So of course Thanos prior could have survived the same hit. Actually ALL high herald level beings could have survived that punch. It wasn't a good feat IMO. I literally spit on that so called feat.
12. Non of the feats you named is superior to DD tanking beams that, at half power, vaporized missiles that Superman couldn't damage in the slightest. But keep naming feats. Maybe you will come across one that's remotely close.

So that you take me seriously. Galactus level beings, cosmic cube beings, etc. don't on average vaporize shit that's astronomically more durable than Superman. Yes Galactus level beings can kill or one shot heralds but that is a drop of water compared to a lake of water.
13. PG Thor operated no more than 2x stronger than a non holding back Thor. Normal Thor has greater strength feats than that PG Thor did. Yet he busted Thanos face by not even landing a good hammer slam.

You disagree that DS can't erase Thanos
since
1. Durability affects ability to be erased
2. DS has no erasing powers but rather disintegrating powers
3. DS disintegrating power in a forum fight is less than what was shown against the missiles.

Am I right?

I answered every one of your points, just deleted the words in the quotes. You failed on that font.

1. Because you can't understand anything
2. So you were wrong again. Concession accepted.
3. So you think you can punch twice as fast as the fastest punch ever recorded. I literally don't have to prove you wrong to know you're a god damned liar.
4. I literally said by bringing it up that you don't want to play the low feats game since Mary tanked it. And you evidently don't since you want to scream pis at the first sight of it. Way to show me.
5. That'd be all good and well if you previously haven't tried to lowball Tyrant because Gladiator stalemated him. And weren't previously proven wrong about it.
Or if Tyrant had anything to do with anything stated ever in this thread.

6. And Thor's hammer moved that fast in that comic since we see his impact the same as the others, and his hammer farther away. So you have no point there. And yes it was.
A few feet away isn't the same general area? Well, I'd say it is, but you know, it is.
So you're basically saying they have to hit right down to the same microsecond to stack? Prove that line of thought.

7. Then you're blatantly trolling, and should be reported immediately. Thor's most common attack that regularly damages people Gladiator couldn't dream of damaging isn't more powerful than Gladiator flexing?
You know how many more times this would make Gladiator than Thor when he was trying? Which, of course, Gladiator hasn't the feats to begin to contend with Thor, and Thor's averages shit on Gladiator's highest.

8. Warlock's blast was green in every single panel of that comic. Show Warlock in that comic having a purple sheen in his gem.
Or don't concede and then keep arguing a non point.
And he used it because he used that color scheme for attacks with no energy, and it shows that he hit it.

9. The writer's intention was never at any point in time in that comic to show DD being more durable than Thanos who hails from a completely different comic.
DD has absolutely no feats to contend with Thanos' durability. And the only time a sword was used against DD, you thought it almost cut DD in half, which you changed to a quarter.

10. So we're left with Darkseid never erasing anyone more durable than Thanos. You'd think he'd use it on the people who you know, are immediate threats to his existence.

11. Show any high herald taking 4 shots from the IG.

12. So, Darkseid destroying missiles is superior to Galactus exerting himself to the point of hunger?

And there's where I report you.

You literally just said that Thanos tanking attacks so crazily above Darkseid's level don't count because "on average", which is basically stating that it doesn't count because Thanos took it.

Crazy thought, but if Thanos has that many feats against really high beings, then he might be that durable. As opposed to just taking attacks less than half of Darkseid's power because they managed to destroy missiles.
Actually, at no point ever do I believe Galactus has ever been portrayed at half of Darkseid's power. But I'm sure you have scans to prove me wrong.

13. If normal Thor has better feats, then that means he was weaker than a bloodlusted Thor with a Power Gem. It doesn't take a child to figure that one out.
But yeah, show the math to show Thor was only twice as strong with an infinite potential gem on his forehead that was only making him stronger.

I disagree because Darkseid has never erased anyone near Thanos' durability level and you keep dancing around that fact.

But 3 is cute and retardedly far from anything I said. Thanos is more durable than missiles... by far.

You also failed to answer half of anything important. But keep condensing things, maybe I'll forget points.
Keep failing to provide proof of anything you say as well.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not sure when that was posted but if that's the same discussion, Abhil has already been convinced he was incorrect on ICT recently:
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,251455.40.html
lol

So Superman was just at DOS levels in HP?

Originally posted by Golgo13
You place TGDS DS above FC?

Theirs no order to them, i was just listing them as i go.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I answered every one of your points, just deleted the words in the quotes. You failed on that font.

1. Because you can't understand anything
2. So you were wrong again. Concession accepted.
3. So you think you can punch twice as fast as the fastest punch ever recorded. I literally don't have to prove you wrong to know you're a god damned liar.
4. I literally said by bringing it up that you don't want to play the low feats game since Mary tanked it. And you evidently don't since you want to scream pis at the first sight of it. Way to show me.
5. That'd be all good and well if you previously haven't tried to lowball Tyrant because Gladiator stalemated him. And weren't previously proven wrong about it.
Or if Tyrant had anything to do with anything stated ever in this thread.

6. And Thor's hammer moved that fast in that comic since we see his impact the same as the others, and his hammer farther away. So you have no point there. And yes it was.
A few feet away isn't the same general area? Well, I'd say it is, but you know, it is.
So you're basically saying they have to hit right down to the same microsecond to stack? Prove that line of thought.

7. Then you're blatantly trolling, and should be reported immediately. Thor's most common attack that regularly damages people Gladiator couldn't dream of damaging isn't more powerful than Gladiator flexing?
You know how many more times this would make Gladiator than Thor when he was trying? Which, of course, Gladiator hasn't the feats to begin to contend with Thor, and Thor's averages shit on Gladiator's highest.

8. Warlock's blast was green in every single panel of that comic. Show Warlock in that comic having a purple sheen in his gem.
Or don't concede and then keep arguing a non point.
And he used it because he used that color scheme for attacks with no energy, and it shows that he hit it.

9. The writer's intention was never at any point in time in that comic to show DD being more durable than Thanos who hails from a completely different comic.
DD has absolutely no feats to contend with Thanos' durability. And the only time a sword was used against DD, you thought it almost cut DD in half, which you changed to a quarter.

10. So we're left with Darkseid never erasing anyone more durable than Thanos. You'd think he'd use it on the people who you know, are immediate threats to his existence.

11. Show any high herald taking 4 shots from the IG.

12. So, Darkseid destroying missiles is superior to Galactus exerting himself to the point of hunger?

And there's where I report you.

You literally just said that Thanos tanking attacks so crazily above Darkseid's level don't count because "on average", which is basically stating that it doesn't count because Thanos took it.

Crazy thought, but if Thanos has that many feats against really high beings, then he might be that durable. As opposed to just taking attacks less than half of Darkseid's power because they managed to destroy missiles.
Actually, at no point ever do I believe Galactus has ever been portrayed at half of Darkseid's power. But I'm sure you have scans to prove me wrong.

13. If normal Thor has better feats, then that means he was weaker than a bloodlusted Thor with a Power Gem. It doesn't take a child to figure that one out.
But yeah, show the math to show Thor was only twice as strong with an infinite potential gem on his forehead that was only making him stronger.

I disagree because Darkseid has never erased anyone near Thanos' durability level and you keep dancing around that fact.

But 3 is cute and retardedly far from anything I said. Thanos is more durable than missiles... by far.

You also failed to answer half of anything important. But keep condensing things, maybe I'll forget points.
Keep failing to provide proof of anything you say as well.

3. Do you believe a human can generate 80mph of hand speed using a throwing motion?
4. You bringing up a PIS is a waste of time. It's unusable. So yes I showed you.
5. Previously as in another thread? Or this one?
6. For hits to stack two objects must simulataneously touch the surface. They don't have to initially hit at the exact same time. Let's slow down time and see things in super slow motion. My fist is on a surface (from punching it). It hasn't left the surface since my hand must stay in contact with the surface during the punch a specific amount of time. During this time a second object hits or touches the surface. Although I struck the surface first, both hits still stack power since simultaneous contact occurs. In other words, a second hit must make contact during the 1st hits contact duration. Thor's hammer appears to have left contact before Hulk makes contact. But it's possible both were in contact with the shield at the same time.
I'll give you that much.
7. You have a reading comprehension problem. A character at their highest is astronomically more powerful than at their average. For example, Superman at his highest is easily above 50 Earth weights of force. On average he isn't even 1 millionth of an Earth weight. Glad on average probably punches which less than 0.001% of planet destroying power. I said high end Gladiator flex is superior to average Thor throw. You miss the "high end" vs. "average" comparison. No trolling at all.
8. The writer used the exact same color scheme for the physical hits. What is the reasoning for that? Let's drop it. Ok Thanos blasted by himself. Happy?
9. The OB feat is superior to any of Thanos feats as I proven and you are ignoring. Also Thanos has been damaged by far less. DD not so much.
10. Artistic license! Some writers don't have DS with the power to erase at all but rather the power to destroy. Thus those versions practically didn't have the power to erase at all. Also many instances were retcon as an avatar.
11. Why? Magus wasn't trying to kill Thanos. So again, any high herald could have survived the hits. In comics, everything isn't always the same power level. Glads doesn't always hit with planet destroying force. Superman doesn't always have planet moving power. Even dark phoenix and other uber characters have consistently failed to kill the low durability x-men characters with their blasts.
12. DS vaporizing missiles (that Superman couldn't damage at all) at half power is superior to average Galactus blasts. I don't recall Galactus every vaporizing beings astronomically more durable than Superman. Also that blast struck Thanos shielding for the most part to deplete Galactus and not Thanos. In other words, Galactus didn't deplete himself blasting Thanos but rather his shields. So you are trolling here.
13. Potential is the key here. Thor wasn't using the gem to it's potential. That is why he never achieved greater than twice his normal power. There is no showings or narration that leads us to believe that Thor was operating at more than twice his normal power. One shotting Drax doesn't prove that since it's well within the suspension of belief that a 2x Thor can do something like that given Thor past feats. Classic Thor even hit Thanos around just as well.

Thanos being more durable than missiles is not the same as Thanos being more durable than THOSE missiles. Who are you trying to fool? Pretend you are trying to convince me only and not try to con others reading your posts. If you are truth then no need to twist words in order to deceive. (You are using 'missiles' as if they are ordinary earthly 'missiles' to lowball the feat and make me look like an ass).

Originally posted by carver9
Wow, just wow...I feel bad for the guy. Thanks for the link.
I thin I'm going to be nicer. The guy is just getting routed lately.

Originally posted by SquallX
You're stupidity knows no limit, or maybe you're just that big of a fanboy.

Did you know, you don't have to kill someone to beat them?

I'll play you're little game.

Spectre Hal Jordan killed Darkseid on panel, for Darkseid to be brought back and claims that a power far greater than Specter Jordan wants him around. Now, guess who commands the Spectre force?

Darkseid, was once removed from a timeline, and that time line was being destroyed because he was to important to the Multiverse.

So you fail. NEXT!

yes, it proved Darkseid can be one shotted at full power. Source had to Rezz him whereas Thanos was given this ability from the cocoon. Mistress Death did not get involved or have to resurrect him as he already had this power so entirely different.

Yes, I read foundations and we see how this played it once. We saw the younger Darkseid at a loss how to save himself while called, Dorkseid.

Thanos has the ability himself and as the Source can't be linked to this thread you lose.

I for one would be very interested in knowing how the OE would effect a unique creature like Thanos. However I believe that this battle would be closer than many believe it to be, but the Hulk would dominate Doomsday based on feats imho. After all it takes strength to move that much real estate, and the Hulk in this thread was an absolute beast, especially at or near the end of HOTM when he was monstrous in size, and power. HP/DD was powerful but not to that degree.

Originally posted by Stoic
I for one would be very interested in knowing how the OE would effect a unique creature like Thanos. However I believe that this battle would be closer than many believe it to be, but the Hulk would dominate Doomsday based on feats imho. After all it takes strength to move that much real estate, and the Hulk in this thread was an absolute beast, especially at or near the end of HOTM when he was monstrous in size, and power. HP/DD was powerful but not to that degree.
I don't see it fazong Thanos at all.

Closed. It seems people just can't drop the matter or stop antagonizing each other.